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mcewanw

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Mar 2017, 02:02    Post subject:  

Fred hasn't 'sabotaged' anything. The past dispute is now all over as Toni also confirmed. Everyone has moved on or continued with the dispute-over present arrangement. Please stop further trying to destroy other people's projects. Anyway, we have no choice but all ignoring the way you continue, 'a'. Pity you won't move on too - aside from everything else, all person's work and efforts are for free. A person can use whatever license they like (including none at all) on their work (and as Fred stated, the lack of license was never intentional anyway - (edit:) many of us do that in early releases now and again - for many of us the main thing is to get the work bug-free as possible and work on release details when we have time). You are never forced to use the releases.

saintless wrote:

fredx181 wrote:
Now Peace, Quiet

Yes.


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PostPosted: Wed 15 Mar 2017, 03:10    Post subject:  

Here's the quote in its entirety:
saintless wrote:
Hi Fred.

I will not accept the invitation from William because my idea about DebianDog is still valid. If something is non-free or without license (which is the same) I don't want to have any part of it. Even working on the same github page where non-free license isn't respected.
I care more for the developers wishes and much less for the passengers wishes.

I understand the huge efforts to build and upload all newer iso images and it isn't acceptable for you to rebuild everything. And you don't have to. My idea is mine and your idea is different.
fredx181 wrote:
Now Peace, Quiet

Yes.

Toni
Yes, I see Toni's desire for peace but what about his concern over the license issue? If that hurdle has been cleared, I will bite my tongue, apologize to Fred and shut up.
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Mar 2017, 11:32    Post subject:  

@Anikin

At least have the intelligence to realise that your apology is neither sought nor needed! You imagine some game is in progress in which one-up-man-ship is the entire point of playing. But no-one else is playing - as all have caught on and shunned your agenda.

You have appointed yourself as adjudicator; an interlocutor who injects 'too much' negativity into the dialogue, and no original positivity or creativity, IMHO.

Most here favour progress in coding, and ISO releases, not in one-up-man-ship. and that is why, imo, your input/output is DISDAINED. You have missed the important point ... repeatedly! As Einstein noted "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results."

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Mar 2017, 11:36    Post subject:  

stemsee wrote:
@Anikin

At least have the intelligence to realise that your apology is neither sought nor needed! You imagine some game is in progress in which one-up-man-ship is the entire point of playing. But no-one else is playing - as all have caught on and shunned your agenda.

You have appointed yourself as adjudicator; an interlocutor who injects 'too much' negativity into the dialogue, and no original positivity or creativity, IMHO.

Most here favour progress in coding, and ISO releases, not in one-up-man-ship. and that is why, imo, your input/output is DISDAINED. You have missed the important point ... repeatedly! As Einstein noted "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results."

Adios


Or put more simply, please don't feed the troll.
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Mar 2017, 14:04    Post subject:  

@stemsee

What an outburst, but I don't owe him an apology. Don't spin my words. I would have offered an apology in an *impossible* scenario: if Fred stopped playing games and accepted Toni's conditions. That will never happen. With the support from folks like you, Fred's become the owner of DebianDog. Unlicensed scripts and ownership rights? Who cares. Squeeze Toni out of the playground - we don't need him anymore. You guys are so happy to be part of a stolen project - more power to you.
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Mar 2017, 14:41    Post subject:  

Hi !
Agent provocateur goes conspiracy .........be sure nobody is going to believe your lies...go somewhere else looking for trouble ......nobody will swallow your poison.....you will just intoxicate yourself .......so don`t forget .....Karma is a Bitch...
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Mar 2017, 15:19    Post subject:  

Deleted this post. Anything else is adding fuel to a dead fire. Toni asked for peace and I respect that.

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Mar 2017, 17:39    Post subject:  

Ladies and Gentlemen, please, enough off-topic conversations now.

This topic is about XenialDog.
(although any other message that have any connection technically with Linux in general are okay also IMHO)

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Mar 2017, 23:38    Post subject:  

G'day there All Puppy / Dog Lovers, I'm having a Very Frustrating Time Getting Me changes.dat File 2 Work which is Currently 4Gb, it is Located in the Casper Directory

Where should it be? Please

& I Guess it's Supposed 2 be Referenced from the menu.lst ?

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Mar 2017, 04:32    Post subject:  

Hi max !
In my opinion ........i find Save Folder better than Save File .....more flexible .....does adjust size automatically ....

To your question above .......where is your casper ? ......is it in a Folder with a name ...or is it on / (root ) of your (Drive/Usb ) partition ?

Post your menu.lst ......
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Mar 2017, 05:01    Post subject:  

Thanx Backl for your Help, Yes I'd be Happy w/ a Folder as well, as yoU can See Casper is a Folder, Under /(Root), Altho Confusingly & Oddly the Parent in Another View is CDROM? But this is a Fixed Hard Dr.

Also I did Previously Try changes=/mnt/sda1/casper/changes.dat without success

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Mar 2017, 05:23    Post subject:  

Max Headroom wrote:
Thanx Backl for your Help, Yes I'd be Happy w/ a Folder as well, as yoU can See Casper is a Folder, Under /(Root), Altho Confusingly & Oddly the Parent in Another View is CDROM? But this is a Fixed Hard Dr.

Also I did Previously Try changes=/mnt/sda1/casper/changes.dat without success

SmileK


Hi Max !
It's confusing, I admit, there are 2 boot-methods possible.
So you can only use one or the other (you are mixing them, as I noticed on your menu.lst), please read XenialDog Wiki
For Save-to-folder, it's only possible with the "porteus-boot" style (and only on a Linux filesystem, e.g. ext3 or ext4.
Save-file can be used also on FAT or NTFS
I'd recommend porteus-boot, btw.

Hope this helps

EDIT: example for porteus-boot save to folder (will be then in /casper/changes):
(changes folder will be automatically created in /casper)

Code:
title XenialDog - porteus-boot - changes in /casper/changes folder
 uuid <YOUR-UUID>
 kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=/casper/
 initrd /casper/initrd1.xz


EDIT2: for save-file changes.dat, if changes.dat is in /casper:

Code:
title XenialDog - porteus-boot - changes=/casper/changes.dat
 uuid <YOUR-UUID>
 kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=/casper/changes.dat
 initrd /casper/initrd1.xz


EDIT3: made correction, noauto was twice in kernel line

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Mar 2017, 08:24    Post subject:  

Max .....did forget to mention.....you can have the choice to save or not to save your session ....or on demand ( with save2flash ...it is in /usr/bin ......make a Symlink to your Desktop .)This is what makes the "Dogs " so special ...

Using Fred`s Example will save automatically ..

title XenialDog - porteus-boot - changes in /casper/changes folder
uuid <YOUR-UUID>
kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=/casper/
initrd /casper/initrd1.xz


When you modify the Example which fred gave in this way ,you will be asked on shutdown if you want to save or not (or saving during Session ...with save2flash )........here is the modification for saving on demand :

title XenialDog - porteus-boot - changes in /casper/changes folder
uuid <YOUR-UUID>
kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=EXIT:/casper/
initrd /casper/initrd1.xz

changes=EXIT:/casper/

EXIT:/ makes the Difference

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Mar 2017, 08:41    Post subject:  

Quote:
changes=Exit:/casper/


Thanks backi, just one thing: Exit should be EXIT (capitals) (otherwise it wont work, btw, never tested "Exit", but better be safe before more confusion arises)

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Mar 2017, 08:50    Post subject:  

That`s correct fred !
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