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#766 Post by artsown »

@FatBeard
Instead of APT use Puppy Package Manager (PPM) or Quickpet. Make sure to
update PPM.

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No Apt = Puppy Package Manager or try Pkg

#767 Post by mikeslr »

Xenialpup is not a cut-down version of Xenial Xerus. It is built using some of the latter's binaries, making it 'binary compatible' --that is, occasionally with a great deal of searching* applications can be installed or SFSes to be loaded and unloaded from the packages stored on Ubuntu's repositories. Menu>Setup>Puppy Package Manager provides direct access to those repositories. Very often, obtaining the necessary files is "one-stop shopping".

But, if you really want a package manager which works like apt, try Pkg, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 531#985531. Properly first announced in the "Cutting Edge" Section, scottman's creation has quickly advanced to the point that it is now included in Bionicpup64 and made use of in some instances to provide applications which PPM isn't able to OOTB.

* Puppies do not employ the entire framework used by the distro-version they are binary compatible with. Under Xenial Xerus, apt and synaptic do not always identify as necessary dependencies components which a deb creator took for granted or overlooked because it was assumed to be present in the OS as part of its frame-work. Puppy Package Manager can only finds components Ubuntu devs identified as dependencies. Consequently, it is likely that apt would be just as unsuccessful as Puppy Package Manager in automatically finding and downloading ALL components actually necessary for an application to function OOTB.

After PPM has found and installed an application and the dependencies it knows about, if an application doesn't function, or fully function, you can determine what components were missing by finding the application's binary and running List Dynamic Dependencies via Puppy's Right-Click Menu or Menu>System>List Dynamic Dependencies. They can be obtained via PPM or your web-browser.

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#768 Post by xdpx »

Hi, can someone say if it is possible to install any package, so I can have the brightness of the display even darker than the minimum of "1" which is possible with xbacklight? I've tried instead of 1, "0.more numbers/digits" or ".more numbers/digits" but in all those cases the display goes dark at all. Thank you.

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#769 Post by bigpup »

Try this.
menu>Setup>Screen/Graphics Wizard>Monitor Gamma Calibration
Adjust each color the same.
You can go negative numbers here.
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#770 Post by bigpup »

Xenialpup 7.5 full install seems to have problem.

I just helped someone get wifi connection in Xenialpup 7.5
They needed the atheros kernel modules pet to get drivers for their Atheros hardware.
Installed the pet in their Xenialpup 7.5 full install.
The wifi hardware still did not show in network connection tools. (any of them)

I suggested to try a frugal install of Xenialpup 7.5
Installed the atheros kernel modules pet.
Their atheros hardware was setup and wifi connection setup with no problem.

Please release an updated Xenialpup 7.5 iso with the Atheros stuff in it.
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#771 Post by ozsouth »

@bigpup - kernel is a problem too. Some newer ath10k modules & firmware need minimum 4.14.x kernel. Early last year, all that was needed was 4.10.x, such is the progress of wireless. Reminds me of M$ 'progress'. And maybe we should have Normal & Traditional installs (ilo Frugal & Full).
Afterthought: perhaps a ydrv could be made with new drivers/firmware as an interim, & a zdrv/vmlinuz kernel update.

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#772 Post by 666philb »

bigpup wrote:
Please release an updated Xenialpup 7.5 iso with the Atheros stuff in it.
i can't do a proper update of xenialpup at the moment ... but i have edited the iso and added the drivers as an adrive.
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

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#773 Post by watchdog »

666philb wrote:
bigpup wrote:
Please release an updated Xenialpup 7.5 iso with the Atheros stuff in it.
i can't do a proper update of xenialpup at the moment ... but i have edited the iso and added the drivers as an adrive.
If you are not aware of it, the new iso with the adrv is not downloadable at ibiblio. At least for me.

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#774 Post by bigpup »

Same for me!
Get
404 - Not Found
666philb you broke the iso :shock: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks very much for doing the Atheros adrive!!!!
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#775 Post by 666philb »

that's odd!

re uploading now....

thanks
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

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#776 Post by 666philb »

it's still showing 404, so is a renamed ISO. I've posted about the problem on the ibiblio forum, hopefully we'll get an answer soon
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

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#777 Post by 666philb »

this is now fixed ... the iso had the wrong permissions :shock:
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

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Xenialpup 7.5 32bit

#778 Post by Ether »

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Hello.

Just downloaded XenialPup 7.5 32bit.

Palemoon is not latest version so I tried to use the "Palemoon Updater" item in the "internet" menu.

No joy, see attached images.

Is this a known bug? Is there a fix?

Thank you.

PS: I'm hardwired to my router, My internet connection is working fine. I am using XenialPup and Palemoon to post this.
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#779 Post by 6502coder »

Have you applied XenialPup updates?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 66#1003766

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#780 Post by Ether »

6502coder wrote:Have you applied XenialPup updates?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 66#1003766
That worked. Thank you.

This thread -- Xenialpup CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017 -- has 779 posts.

I could not find a list anywhere in this thread of the known issues and fixes for the "xenialpup-7.5-uefi.iso 2019-Feb-24 11:51:38 324.7M" download,

and I could not figure out how to search all 779 posts in this thread to find a solution to the specific problem I was seeking help for.

Is there a way for a newcomer like me to "help myself" answer my questions? I'd hate to wear out my welcome by constantly posting questions that have already been answered because I can't search the thread for answers that are already posted.

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#781 Post by bigpup »

This search web site works for me to find things.
Just make sure to select puppy forum from the drop down Web Source listing.
http://puppylinux.us/psearch.html
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#782 Post by 666philb »

Ether wrote:
6502coder wrote:Have you applied XenialPup updates?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 66#1003766
That worked. Thank you.

This thread -- Xenialpup CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017 -- has 779 posts.

I could not find a list anywhere in this thread of the known issues and fixes for the "xenialpup-7.5-uefi.iso 2019-Feb-24 11:51:38 324.7M" download,

and I could not figure out how to search all 779 posts in this thread to find a solution to the specific problem I was seeking help for.

Is there a way for a newcomer like me to "help myself" answer my questions? I'd hate to wear out my welcome by constantly posting questions that have already been answered because I can't search the thread for answers that are already posted.

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hi Ether,

quickpet >> puppy search engine might give better results when looking for answers.
quickpet >> help>>installed bugfixes lists all fixes so far

but just post in this thread if you need help with xenialpup or in the beginners/users section for general questions
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

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#783 Post by Ether »

bigpup wrote:This search web site works for me to find things.
Just make sure to select puppy forum from the drop down Web Source listing.
http://puppylinux.us/psearch.html
Thanks.

Although it's not what I was looking for (search all the posts in specific thread), I bookmarked it for possible future use.

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#784 Post by Ether »

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Hello.

Can someone please tell me the meaning of the attached error message?

Xenialpup CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017 with latest updates
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#785 Post by 666philb »

Ether wrote:.
Hello.

Can someone please tell me the meaning of the attached error message?

Xenialpup CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017 with latest updates
hi Ether,

it's an error relating to pmcputemp a small tray app that shows cpu temperature. unfortunately it doesn't work on every computer and doesn't work in a virtual machine, so i've removed it in my later pups.

to stop the error move /root/Startup/pmcputemp1 to /root/Startup/disabled ... or simply delete it
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Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

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