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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 01:39    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.6 (Aug. 16), Beaver 8.7.1 (Sept. 21), 2018  

I installed to a 64gb sandisk flash drive:

System: Host: QUIRKYPC21340 Kernel: 4.18.9 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM git-1685
Distro: Quirky 8.7.1 beaver64
Machine: Device: desktop System: HP product: 260-p029 serial: CNV6240BWP
Mobo: HP model: 81B4 v: 01 serial: PFPSK0BWJ301LW UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: F.04 date: 05/10/2016
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-6100T (-MT-MCP-) speed/max: 1015/3101 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel HD Graphics 530
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: intel Resolution: 1600x900@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2) version: 4.5 Mesa 18.0.5
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtl8723be
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1061.7GB (1.2% used)
Weather: Conditions: 74 F (23 C) Time: September 22, 1:06 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 141 Uptime: 4 min Memory: 138.9/3873.7MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

I updated petget and installed some applications.

Seems to be working okay so far,
Thanks.
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peterw

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 03:07    Post subject: Query whether image should be xz or gz  

Maybe me but using the command
gunzip --stdout beaver64-8.7.1-8gb.img.gz | dd of=/dev/sdb bs=1M
does not work because the image I downloaded was xz not gz.
Is this a typo and should I just correct it? If I am confused I guess others might be as well.
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Sage

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 03:52    Post subject:  

The compressed .img file has been further compressed into a .gz file. Right click and 'extract here' to provide the compressed .img file. Suggest you ignore that 'dd-' stuff the gurus use and install USB Image Writer, which contrary to some commentary, IS available for Linux, is graphical and is (fool?)proof even for YT; it runs well out of Mint, MX and other majors, but would avoid Arch-based stuff like Manjy if you're not too confident.
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peterw

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 04:35    Post subject: downloaded was xz not gz.  

Hi Sage

Thanks for the quick reply. The problem is that the instructions here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/beaver-8.7.1/howto-install.htm are not in agreement with compressed image file you download. I think the instructions need clarification.

I was using Fatdog to write the image to the USB and it obviously failed. I have used xz instead of gunzip in the command and that does something to the USB but does not write a good image and you need to reformat the USB afterwards. I will look at Image Writer and see if I can install it in a Puppy. Barry has a utility to make writing the USB easy but that also refers to gz nor xz.

Hopefully, Barry reads this post and corrects me or the instructions. Quirky is to good for potential users to be put off because of queries such as this.
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 05:42    Post subject: Re: downloaded was xz not gz.  

peterw wrote:
Hi Sage

Thanks for the quick reply. The problem is that the instructions here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/beaver-8.7.1/howto-install.htm are not in agreement with compressed image file you download. I think the instructions need clarification.

I was using Fatdog to write the image to the USB and it obviously failed. I have used xz instead of gunzip in the command and that does something to the USB but does not write a good image and you need to reformat the USB afterwards. I will look at Image Writer and see if I can install it in a Puppy. Barry has a utility to make writing the USB easy but that also refers to gz nor xz.

Hopefully, Barry reads this post and corrects me or the instructions. Quirky is to good for potential users to be put off because of queries such as this.


peterw,
Yes, you are correct, I uploaded the usb flash stick image file with xz compression, it should have been gz compression, for compatibility with the instructions.

Actually, easydd can handle either, however, the various Windows image writer apps only understand zip or gz compression.

So, I have recompressed the file, now *.img.gz, it is uploading right now.

A much bigger file, 601MB, but have to pay that price for it to work with the Windows apps. Watching it upload...

...yep, done. It is now at ibiblio.org:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/beaver-8.7.1/

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 07:05    Post subject: Re: downloaded was xz not gz.
Subject description: Beaver 8.7.1 (Sept. 21), 2018
 

BarryK wrote:

Actually, easydd can handle either, however, the various Windows image writer apps only understand zip or gz compression.


I used easydd, ran it from xenialpup64.
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 08:29    Post subject: Difficulties Making Bootable USB  

Barry K

I must be doing things wrong. In Fatdog easydd could not run on the xz image. I will try that again in xenialpup since Billtoo has had success?

I used the "gunzip --stdout beaver64-8.7.1-8gb.img.gz | dd of=/dev/sdb bs=1M" command on the new gz image and that wrote out the system in two partitions. However, it would not boot on two machines. The boot flag had been set. Tried grugdos boot loader and it recognised Quirky and install bootloader but that stopped with "kernel panic".
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 08:56    Post subject:  

Still too much misunderstanding!
First: decompress/extract the required .img file with almost any other major Linux distro, i.e.most of them, just right click and "extract here" -exactly as I stated. I did NOT say to extract using Windows. Just follow what I said - you end up with the uncompressed .img file. Then, with almost any major [LINUX] distro, install the Linux version of USB Image Writer and use that to install your .img file to your USB stick. Do not use the Windows USB Writer utility, use the Linux one. For simplicity do not use one of the Puppy distros, which are excellent, but different to the majors in many respects, as they are 'compact' distros and written for folks a lot more competent with the coding, CLI & co. than the average user, including YT.
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 09:01    Post subject: writing .img- or .iso-files onto flash sticks
Subject description: dd-phobia
 

@ sage

sharing your fondness for running Quirkies and Puppies totally in RAM, I'm astonished at your dd-phobia which I, of course, partially can understand, in view of the command's potential effects.

It's absolutely not my intention to give you unwelcome advice, but a simple workaround could provide you with the option to exactly follow Barry's instructions for preparing flash sticks.

If you boot a recent Quirky live-CD, on a 'HD-free' PC, you can download any .img-file and write it onto a flash stick using dd (easydd) without risking to play havoc since everything happens in RAM (and on the flash stick). As far as I can see from your posts, the required hardware ('HD-free' PC) is easily available to you.

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roadkill13

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 09:24    Post subject:  

I installed 8.7.1 to hdd last night using the Quirky universal installer on my Dell Optiplex 745 USFF.

Quote:
# inxi -F
System: Host: QUIRKYPC29678 Kernel: 4.18.9 x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: JWM git-1685 Distro: Quirky 8.7.1 beaver64
Machine: Device: laptop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 745 serial: JR9TYD1
Mobo: Dell model: 0GW726 serial: ..CN6986179L0353.
BIOS: Dell v: 2.6.6 date: 06/26/2011
CPU: Dual core Intel Pentium Dual E2180 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
clock speeds: max: 1987 MHz 1: 1987 MHz 2: 1982 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6
drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1280x1024@60.02hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965Q version: 2.1 Mesa 18.0.5
Audio: Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.18.9
Network: Card: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCIE
driver: tg3
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full
mac: 00:1a:a0:6c:73:4b
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (0.4% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD5000AAKX size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 98G used: 2.1G (3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info: Processes: 104 Uptime: 4 min Memory: 226.7/3872.7MB
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56


I noted the same anomaly with the system not being able to boot with menu.lst entry generated by the grub configuration utility. I used the same work around as before.

Quote:
title Quirky Beaver64 8.7.1 (sda1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro


I did install Chromium from the package manager, otherwise I am running the stock install. Everything is working as expected so far. Thank you for this.
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 10:58    Post subject: Beaver 8.7.1 (Sept. 21), 2018  

I installed to a 32gb sandisk flash drive with easydd:

System: Host: QUIRKYPC23549 Kernel: 4.18.9 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM git-1685
Distro: Quirky 8.7.1 beaver64
Machine: Device: desktop System: LENOVO product: 7491B8U v: ThinkCentre M58e serial: MJ01509
Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: INVALID BIOS: LENOVO v: 5HKT39AUS date: 06/17/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E8400 (-MCP-) speed/max: 2527/3003 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GT216 [GeForce GT 220]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: NVA5 version: 3.3 Mesa 18.0.5
Network: Card: Marvell 88E8057 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2
Drives: HDD Total Size: 350.8GB (1.2% used)
Weather: Conditions: 54 F (12 C) Time: September 22, 10:52 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 104 Uptime: 51 min Memory: 213.0/3947.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

Updated petget and installed a few applications.
Working well,
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 14:09    Post subject: Installing to USB stick  

Sage
Thanks for your help. I do understand your instructions and using them I have installed Quirky to a USB stick. It basically works on a Acer C720 Chromebook apart from (what I expected) the touchpad and its buttons - peculiarity of Chromebooks. Also, I have not got the sound working yet.

I need to experiment more with the Quirky recommended ways of installing. Perhaps, I will try dd'ing the decompressed image and not do it all in one.
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 14:32    Post subject:
Subject description: can't install quirky 8.7.1 to HP laptop
 

I have a 2 year old HP laptop to which I can't install Quirky 8.7.1. It can see all the partitions on the disk, but on choosing a specific partition to install to, the installer keeps issuing an error message saying that the partitions are unreadable and to maybe try another one instead.

This Quirky 8.7.1 version installed to an older HP PC with no issues. Quirky Xerus 8.6 also installed with no problems to this laptop.

Is there perhaps a firmware package missing that is required so that the installer can see the disk partitions partitions on this specific HP laptop? It's a bog-standard HP cheapo that in the past has always ran Quirky/Puppy/ as well as many other distros with zero problems.

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 16:09    Post subject: Can't install Beaver-8.7.1 onto my hdd  

Hi Barry!

I'm trying to install Beaver-8.7.1 onto my box. Yeah, it's the one with dual core and only 2 GB of ram.
I've tried the 'sync' in line 133 and 115 in /usr/local/install-quirky/install-quirky-to-frugal without luck.
The script will stop at ..writing inodes.. at 84% (there is less than 1.5 GB of compressed ram left).

Doing an install of Quirky 8.6 to the hdd works fine.

Any ideas?
Greetings, Feodor
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 23:35    Post subject: Beaver 8.7.1 (Sept. 21), 2018  

Installed to a 32gb SDHC card (in usb adapter) :

System: Host: QUIRKYPC8336 Kernel: 4.18.9 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM git-1685 Distro: Quirky 8.7.1 beaver64
Machine: Device: laptop System: Acer product: Aspire V5-571P v: V2.17 serial: NXM49AA03531512EC36600
Mobo: Acer model: Aspire V5-571P v: V2.17 serial: NBM491100831501E946600
UEFI [Legacy]: Phoenix v: V2.17 date: 02/27/2013
Battery BAT0: charge: 27.0 Wh 95.9% condition: 28.1/37.0 Wh (76%)
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-3227U (-MT-MCP-) speed/max: 966/1901 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: intel Resolution: 1366x768@60.10hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile version: 4.2 Mesa 18.0.5
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Broadcom Limited BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n driver: bcma-pci-bridge
Drives: HDD Total Size: 532.0GB (0.9% used)
Weather: Conditions: 54 F (12 C) Time: September 22, 11:03 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 126 Uptime: 1:09 Memory: 151.5/5754.6MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

Udated petget and installed favorite applications.
The touchscreen is supported.

Thanks for Quirky 8.7.1.
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