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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 00:08    Post subject:  Quirky Xerus 8.6 (Aug. 16), Beaver 8.7.1 (Sept. 21), 2018
Subject description: Quirky Linux project now retired
 

Quirky Linux project is now retired

See blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/news/201812/quirky-linux-now-officially-retired.html

Quirky Beaver 8.7.1 64-bit
Released September 21, 2018

Blog announcement and download links:
http://bkhome.org/news/201809/quirky-beaver-x8664-version-871-released.html

Forum feedback starts here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1005353#1005353

Quirky Beaver 8.7 64-bit
Released September 19, 2018

Blog announcement and download links:
http://bkhome.org/news/201809/quirky-beaver-x8664-version-87-released.html

Forum feedback starts here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1005045#1005045

2018-08-16: Quirky Xerus64 8.6

Blog announcement and d/l links:
http://bkhome.org/news/201808/quirky-xerus-86-released.html

Forum feedback starts on page 53:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1002242#1002242

2018-02-27: Quirky Xerus64 8.5 released

Blog announcement and links:
http://bkhome.org/news/201802/quirky-xerus-x8664-version-85-released.html

Forum feedback:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=984243#984243

2018-02-09: Xerus64 8.4 released
Blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/news/201802/quirky-xerus-x8664-version-84-released.html

Feedback starts on page 48:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=982545#982545

2017-07-29: Xerus64 8.3 final released
Announcement and download links:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00630

Forum feedback starts here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=962279#962279

2017-07-19: xerus x86_64 8.2 final released
Announcement and download links:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00609

Forum feedback for 8.2 starts here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=961202#961202

2017-07-13: Xerus x86_64 8.1.94
Announcement and links:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00593

Feedback starts here in this forum thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=960658#960658

2017-01-13: Xerus x86_64 8.1.6
Announcement and links:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00496

Feedback starts on page 25 of this forum thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=939351#939351

2016-12-25: Xerus 8.1.5
Announcement and links:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00482

Feedback starts on page 21 of this forum thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=936918#936918

2016-04-21: Xerus 8.0 final
Announcement and links:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00344

Forum feedback starts on page 8:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=106460&start=105

7.90 beta
There doesn't seem to be much wrong with it, but thought I would upload this beta, probably do 8.0, the final, about 21st of April.

Download from here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/xerus-7.90/

Not yet at Nluug, but the files should turn up here sometime:
http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/

Readme file:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/xerus-7.90/readme-quirky-xerus-7.90.htm

I have found some bugs.
One of them is in BluePup, my bluetooth management GUI. When you bring it up, either from menu, click on the icon in tray, or run "bluepup" in a terminal, the "SCAN & PAIR" button needs an adjustment -- click the "edit" button alongside it and change the timeout for "power on" from "10" to "30" (that will be 5 seconds to 15 seconds).

One observation: I reported this on my blog. A USB3 Flash stick is much faster than a USB2 Flash stick, even in a USB2 socket!
So, to enhance the experience even if your PC only has USB2 sockets, use a USB3 Flash drive.

If you want to know what is new and interesting in Quirky Xerus, read through my blog:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewCat=Linux

Anyway, if anyone wants to play with Quirky Xerus, go for it!

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 03:03    Post subject:  

Will there be an .iso?
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 03:30    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,

my old usb stick is only 2GB (LOL). Can you please make an iso version ?
(I notice fdisk shows a 512Mb "EFI System" partition to boot ?)

You said busybox was buggy, but I use it and replaced all in /bin and /sbin...So what's the problem with "tr" , buggy or missing feature ?

Notice in ppm :
grep: unrecognized option `--file=
busybox uses "grep -f FILE" instead

Did you solve the no xorg.conf bug ? I did it with minimal xorg.conf

Did you try minimal busybox mdev ? I use it everyday.

I also replaced seamonkey with firefox (matter of taste, but also easier to compile and many sites accept it better than seamonkey for compatibility, etc). I am using the compiled version of firefox, with automatic updates.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 03:31    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
Will there be an .iso?
you beat me to it. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 04:27    Post subject:  

Bug fix. Filesystem check at bootup was missing libf2fs.so.0.

Actually, I fixed that before, but the bug came back. That was because I replaced f2fs-tools DEB with my own compiled PET, and the location of the libs became /lib/libf2fs.so*

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 04:32    Post subject:  

linuxcbon wrote:
You said busybox was buggy, but I use it and replaced all in /bin and /sbin...So what's the problem with "tr" , buggy or missing feature ?


Busybox has lots of applets that are missing features. Typically, it is source package compile scripts that expect the full versions of utilities.

In the case of 'tr', I gave the wrong results when I used octal numbers. For example "\20" is an octal number.
I was using a range of octal numbers, something like "[\40-\125]", It output the wrong results, but not even an error message, just the wrong output.
The full 'tr' works great.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 04:43    Post subject:  

linuxcbon wrote:
Notice in ppm :
grep: unrecognized option `--file=
busybox uses "grep -f FILE" instead


Quirky uses the full 'grep'. This is another case, the reason I don't recall, where I don't use the applet.

But, if the Busybox grep won't accept the full commandline options, that is enough reason not to use it.

Busybox is one of those utilities very widely used, and it has to work right in all circumstances.

My choices are the outcome of compiling hundreds of source packages and using all kinds of scripts.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 04:44    Post subject:  

linuxcbon wrote:
Did you try minimal busybox mdev ? I use it everyday.


i looked at it sometime ago, not interested.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 06:15    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
linuxcbon wrote:
Did you try minimal busybox mdev ? I use it everyday.

i looked at it sometime ago, not interested.

why ? you are wrong...mdev is very good. Works perfectly, extremly fast, takes only 2 lines in sysinit. No udev, no bug, no rules, nothing..Udev too complicated, too buggy, too slow, too big.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 06:20    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
Quirky uses the full 'grep'. This is another case, the reason I don't recall, where I don't use the applet.
But, if the Busybox grep won't accept the full commandline options, that is enough reason not to use it.
Busybox is one of those utilities very widely used, and it has to work right in all circumstances.
My choices are the outcome of compiling hundreds of source packages and using all kinds of scripts.

ok I see. But it's because busybox uses minimal options and not "long" options.
But busybox doesnt aim to replace 100% all utilities, only the most used options.
Actually, I wish the scripts and the compiling stuff would adapt to busybox, because it's very very standard and very efficient and light and used in embedded systems etc. So it's not only busybox which has to adapt, but others have to make efforts too, otherwise, it would be too easy and nobody would do anything.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 06:47    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,

thank you a lot for the great work you're doing!

I'm trying quirky xerus 7.90 from a 16gb usb key on my asus e200ha.

Unfortunately, the touchpad doesn't work (it did with ubuntu 16.04 beta).

Is there anything I can do to fix this?

Thank you very much in advance!
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 07:04    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
In the case of 'tr', I gave the wrong results when I used octal numbers. For example "\20" is an octal number.
I was using a range of octal numbers, something like "[\40-\125]", It output the wrong results, but not even an error message, just the wrong output.
The full 'tr' works great.

Bugzilla for reporting bugs in busybox
https://bugs.busybox.net/
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 09:36    Post subject:  

linuxcbon wrote:
BarryK wrote:
linuxcbon wrote:
Did you try minimal busybox mdev ? I use it everyday.

i looked at it sometime ago, not interested.

why ? you are wrong...mdev is very good. Works perfectly, extremly fast, takes only 2 lines in sysinit. No udev, no bug, no rules, nothing..Udev too complicated, too buggy, too slow, too big.


Udev is needed, for many reasons.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 09:38    Post subject:  

mda wrote:
Hi Barry,

thank you a lot for the great work you're doing!

I'm trying quirky xerus 7.90 from a 16gb usb key on my asus e200ha.

Unfortunately, the touchpad doesn't work (it did with ubuntu 16.04 beta).

Is there anything I can do to fix this?

Thank you very much in advance!


I have an E200HA also!

I thought that the touchpad was working. Hmmm, maybe I changed something that broke it. I have been recompiling the kernel many times, trying different config options.
I will investigate.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 09:39    Post subject:  

For anyone who doesn't have a 8GB or bigger Flash stick, I have uploaded a 4GB image file.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 11:30    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

Hi Barry & thanks for your latest beta.

For an initial quick test I installed the 8GB image to a USB3 stick.

Background info:
    Window Manager: JWM vgit-976
    Desktop Start: xwin jwm

    Kernel: Linux 4.4.7 (x86_64)
    X.Org X Server 1.18.3

    Bash: 4.3.0
    Geany: 1.24.1
    Gtkdialog: 0.8.4
    Perl: 5.22.1
    Python: 2.7.11+
    Yad: 0.27.0
    busybox: 1.24.1
    dhcpcd: 6.6.2
    Glibc: 2.23
    OpenSSL: 1.0.2g 1 Mar 2016, built on: reproducible build, date unspecified
    wpa_supplicant: 2.4

The initial boot was problem free with working audio & ethernet via DHCP.
Having increased the DPI to 102 I found that the JWM Configuration Manager/Tray management could not be
used to change the Tray Height from 28 and had to alter it manually. That did work in Werewolf.

Another issue is the following errors in the xerrs.log - font cache update issue???
Code:
X.Org X Server 1.18.3
Release Date: 2016-04-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 3.13.0-85-generic x86_64 Ubuntu
Current Operating System: Linux puppypc4879 4.4.7 #1 SMP Wed Apr 13 08:43:11 GMT-8 2016 x86_64
Kernel command line: root=PARTUUID=DAAAF685-3019-4D9B-9EBC-88508AA66891 rootwait rw BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz
Build Date: 07 April 2016  09:18:50AM
xorg-server 2:1.18.3-1ubuntu2 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support)
Current version of pixman: 0.33.6
   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
   to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
   (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Apr 14 14:16:16 2016
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
resize called 1920 1080
/usr/bin/jwm
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2028
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2029
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfff9
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffa
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffb
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2028
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2029
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfff9
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffa
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffb
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2028
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2029
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfff9
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffa
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffb
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2028
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2029
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfff9
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffa
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffb
6521
EXIT="Exit on timeout"


So far I have only installed Google Chrome Version 50.0.2661.75 (64-bit) which is working well with
sandboxing disabled.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 12:44    Post subject:  

Is it possible to have an iso ? or maybe a 2GB image (maybe barebone).
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 12:59    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

I tried to install the 32gb image to 2 different flash drives that
claim to be 32gb but they wouldn't boot.
I installed the 16gb image to one of the 32gb flash drive and it
works, made the remainder of the drive ext4 to store files on.

No devx pet yet?

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Celeron(R) 2957U @ 1.40GHz
Memory 1904MB (242MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Xerus64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu Apr 14 12:47:15 2016
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Mobile
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
Audio Adapter USB-Audio - Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro

That's it so far.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 14:31    Post subject:  

Quirky Xerus mirrored

checksums:

md5
c6434558ea7bb5c9fad981954d44028a xerus64-7.90-16gb.img.xz
a825e34503b4645ff12ec197496480a3 xerus64-7.90-32gb.img.xz
7125ac61f9104bd9801df45994701c55 xerus64-7.90-4gb.img.xz
11510c208b9721f1978914eb965d54cb xerus64-7.90-8gb.img.xz

sha1
51556aebce92619acb35e4161410dd329846b058 xerus64-7.90-16gb.img.xz
de28fd27b1340a95b0e3f140d4d3b66062b5ec0f xerus64-7.90-32gb.img.xz
493dfa4662b1829484330bbe5326a31bf052ada9 xerus64-7.90-4gb.img.xz
cd7c5faba53e01b505be5670756066936678e856 xerus64-7.90-8gb.img.xz
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 19:54    Post subject:  

Testing on an Intel P4 w/5GB RAM. Minor issues in this post; some of which you may have already addressed.

Downloaded and installed using dd v8.21. I downloaded your 4GB upload and installed to an 8GB stick. This was done to insure the 4GB image would install to larger stick and boot without issues. Before the 4GB image was installed to the stick, all contents were erased from the stick. Thus the install process was started on a MSDOS partition-table stick with NO partitions defined. After installation, the stick looks like this in GParted:


Request
When this message surfaces in GParted for viewing the stick, What do you advise community members to do? Should they "fix" or should they "ignore"?


Booted with no issues to desktop. Time to desktop was about 1.5 minutes. I filled FirstRUN as follows:

Open JWM manager to configure minor changes. Got an error on one of JWM's feature shown as follows:

On another of JWM issue, although this being old problem, it does NOT reflect the current taskbar Window status reporting 1x1 when it should show OOTB status of 1x3. 1x1 shown as follows against the desktop's backdrop:


Next, free command was reviewed to get a RAM use gauge. Each of the following shows report.
Code:
# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       4823992     256384    4567608       5476        232     175236
-/+ buffers/cache:      80916    4743076
Swap:      4235672          0    4235672
Taken immediately following FirstRUN
Later:
Code:
# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       4823992     259860    4564132       5720        232     177140
-/+ buffers/cache:      82488    4741504
Swap:      4235672          0    4235672
Taken after errors in JWM taskbar changes

SAMBA was started for all of the shares that the HDD provides for LAN users. "smbclient" utility is available and working now:
Code:
# smbclient -V
Version 4.3.6-Ubuntu
# samba -V
Version 4.3.6-Ubuntu
Mount command in Xerus works for accessing remote shares from LAN, as well:
Code:
# mount //myNAS21/ISO-downloads /mnt/NAS21/Downloads
Password for root@//myNAS21/ISO-downloads:
#
I am also able to access this Xerus PC's shares from other LAN devices.

All seems to be operating without crashes, thus far. Using SeaMonkey to report these from the Xerus desktop.

@BarryK, might you consider @01Micko's LAN taskbar facility where a mouse-over shows the current IP of this PC?

Any additional specifics you would want, request them and I will attempt testing.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 20:29    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
Downloading now.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 20:48    Post subject:  

  • On a subsequent reboot, the system required a manual restart for the wired adapter to join the network.
  • I have found that some extensions do not have default apps; namely ".xz", "png", etc.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 03:21    Post subject:  

Quote:
you beat me to it. :lol:

Did we forget to say 'please'?! Sorry.
Almost every other distro still uses .iso for distribution. The arguments have been well rehearsed. Developers can, of course, pursue whatever strategy they choose, but my guess is that a CD .iso is preferred by the majority, UEFI/secure boot/w.h.y.? .img formats would be imperative for ARM 7, 8, mobiles, etc. devices but Pi s, Arduino s and such tend to be aimed at different audiences and applications. Both formats would satisfy everyone, though.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 03:31    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
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Did we forget to say 'please'?! Sorry.
Almost every other distro still uses .iso for distribution. The arguments have been well rehearsed. Developers can, of course, pursue whatever strategy they choose, but my guess is that a CD .iso is preferred by the majority, UEFI/secure boot/w.h.y.? .img formats would be imperative for ARM 7, 8, mobiles, etc. devices but Pi s, Arduino s and such tend to be aimed at different audiences and applications. Both formats would satisfy everyone, though.


I agree with you, we need an iso Smile (or a vmlinuz and a initrd.gz, to do a frugal install). Please.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 05:30    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

More testing:

On the issue of the (Unable to update the static FcBlanks:) errors the fontconfig.log shows:-
Code:
fc-cache: error while loading shared libraries: libfontconfig.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfontconfig.so.1 is a symlink to:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfontconfig.so.1.9.0 (size 273832)

It would appear that the content of that lib is the problem. Increasing its permissions did not help.
/usr/bin/fc-cache is not showing any missing dependencies.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 05:51    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
mda wrote:
Hi Barry,

thank you a lot for the great work you're doing!

I'm trying quirky xerus 7.90 from a 16gb usb key on my asus e200ha.

Unfortunately, the touchpad doesn't work (it did with ubuntu 16.04 beta).

Is there anything I can do to fix this?

Thank you very much in advance!


I have an E200HA also!

I thought that the touchpad was working. Hmmm, maybe I changed something that broke it. I have been recompiling the kernel many times, trying different config options.
I will investigate.


My touchpad on E200HA works.

However the Flsynclient GUI doesn't. Something seems to have changed in how xorg works.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 06:10    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

ETP wrote:
More testing:

On the issue of the (Unable to update the static FcBlanks:) errors the fontconfig.log shows:-
Code:
fc-cache: error while loading shared libraries: libfontconfig.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfontconfig.so.1 is a symlink to:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfontconfig.so.1.9.0 (size 273832)

It would appear that the content of that lib is the problem. Increasing its permissions did not help.
/usr/bin/fc-cache is not showing any missing dependencies.


The strange thing is, fc-cache actually works:

# fc-cache --verbose

...and it reports success.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 06:12    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:


My touchpad on E200HA works.



Thank you for your reply!

Unfortunately, I still can't get the touchpad on my asus e200ha to work.

I am booting without passing kernel parameters, should I use any?

The output of cat /proc/bus/input/devices doesn't contain any touchpad entry. Maybe different e200ha are equipped with different touchpads, mine not being recognized by the kernel? Any suggestion would be very appreciated!

Thank you very much!

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 06:13    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
Quote:
you beat me to it. Laughing

Did we forget to say 'please'?! Sorry.
Almost every other distro still uses .iso for distribution. The arguments have been well rehearsed. Developers can, of course, pursue whatever strategy they choose, but my guess is that a CD .iso is preferred by the majority, UEFI/secure boot/w.h.y.? .img formats would be imperative for ARM 7, 8, mobiles, etc. devices but Pi s, Arduino s and such tend to be aimed at different audiences and applications. Both formats would satisfy everyone, though.


The USB stick will boot on BIOS computers, that is, all pre-2012 Pcs.
Requires 64-bit CPU though.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 06:44    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
The USB stick will boot on BIOS computers, that is, all pre-2012 Pcs.Requires 64-bit CPU though.

my usb stick is only 2GB. And what about people who want a hard disk install or to boot from CD ? Please an iso Smile
Did you know you can do this from an iso file too ?
Code:
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 07:34    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

Installed 16gb image to a 32gb flash drive:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 15 Apr 2016 on Quirky Xerus64 7.90 Linux 4.4.7 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v1p1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nouveau
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NVC1
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.1 (Core Profile) Mesa 11.2.0

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Core 0: @2003 1: @2003 MHz

Okay so far.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 09:55    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
Installed the 4 gb image to an 8 gb drive.
Booted to a desktop just fine.
Wireless, Video (glx via nouveau), audio, automounting, all worked ootb.
Seamonkey lags occasionally, but plays youtube fine.

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60
Memory : 3021MB (403MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Quirky Xerus64
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri Apr 15 13:54:09 2016
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on NV67
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
HP Webcam
Sleep Button
Lid Switch
Power Button
Power Button
Video Bus
HDA Digital PCBeep
HDA NVidia Mic
HDA NVidia Front Headphone
PC Speaker
HP WMI hotkeys
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF : <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
ATA WDC WD1600BEVT-7
TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L632N
PNY USB 2.0 FD

Will run it for a few days and get back.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 12:07    Post subject:  

Maybe you can add these important libraries :
- libpng16.so.16 (needed by 0ad , urbanterror , libreoffice etc.)
- libSDL_mixer-1.2 (needed by sauerbraten etc.)

I hope "update-mime-database" will be added for firefox and seamonkey to work ok.

noticed in werewolf : init should be in /sbin and not in /bin . lsmod is in /bin and /sbin , but should be in /sbin only.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 12:23    Post subject: windows programs to burn linux .iso file into usb flash driv
Subject description: RUFUS.EXE single windows file
 

I tried registering at http://barryk.org/news/?do=register but I don't receive email to set password. Therefor I post here, to comment on Windows USB FLash writer.

Check out Windows single file Rufus.exe http://rufus.akeo.ie I have used rufus.exe many times and recommend it to new users coming from windows to test drive puppylinux.

or Look at http://www.linuxliveusb.com LiLi to create a bootable USB Flash drive from many different Linux distributions including puppylinux.

My own blog post that describes creating a PuppyLinux bootable USB flash drive. http://puppylinux-or-pcbsd.blogspot.com/2015/10/what-do-you-like-about-puppylinux-or.html

Search for USB and author wb7odyfred on http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy or search with http://wellminded.net63.net

Can this post be Stickied for beginning users? When I started from Windows to create a working version of PuppyLinux in a USB Flash drive. this would have been helpful.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101366

Another similiar post on creating a USB Flash drive from Windows.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=100169

User EricBenner wrote up his HowTo do a Full Hard Drive install
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=98599&start=15

Howto Create a Live CD from Windows XP
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101891&start=15

Thank you Barry for allowing me to Use PuppyLinux and for creating all
these tools. Like MoManager.


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 12:35    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

Installed the 8gb image to a 16gb flash drive:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 15 Apr 2016 on Quirky Xerus64 7.90 Linux 4.4.7 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: PARK 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 1600x900 pixels (423x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CEDAR (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 11.2.0

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz
Core 0: @1199 1: @1199 2: @1199 3: @1199 MHz

Okay so far.

Edit:
I added a few applications with QPM, games mostly.
I've been running this beta for a few hours with no problems.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 21:57    Post subject:  

Installed the 16 gb image to a 32 gb flash drive using Rufus.

Code:
# inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: puppypc13361 Kernel: 4.4.7 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.3.1)
           Desktop: JWM git-976 dm: N/A Distro: Quirky 7.90 xerus64
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx serial: 150545593600028
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU:       Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 42161
           clock speeds: min/max: 1400/3500 MHz 1: 2000 MHz 2: 1400 MHz
           3: 2000 MHz 4: 1400 MHz 5: 1400 MHz 6: 2000 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: vesa)
           tty size: 80x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.7
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 1c:87:2c:5a:bb:e2
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1151.6GB (0.9% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB serial: N/A
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB serial: N/A
           ID-3: /dev/sdc model: Cruzer size: 31.4GB serial: N/A
Partition: ID-1: / size: 14G used: 2.0G (15%) fs: f2fs dev: /dev/sdc2
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.60GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
RAID:      System: supported: raid0
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 144 Uptime: 11 min Memory: 294.4/15964.4MB
           Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.01 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.2.35



Code:
# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:   free: can't open '/proc/meminfo': No such file or directory



Other than the error when running "free" things looking good so far in a quick test.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 22:10    Post subject:  

Rebooted and "free" is working......

Code:
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             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:      16347572     421868   15925704       6104        292     217124
-/+ buffers/cache:     204452   16143120
Swap:      8396796          0    8396796
#
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2016, 22:19    Post subject:  

Went ahead and made another Fat32 partition for data in the unallocated space on the drive, so Gparted is working.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2016, 05:03    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

Continuing to test with 8GB image installed to 32GB USB3 stick. (3rd [f2fs] partition created in unused space)
Have now thrown the kitchen sink at it including:
    Minidlna_1.1.5
    Firefox 45.0.2
    Thunderbird 45.0 (Just released)
    Google Chrome Stable 50.0.2661.75
    vlc 2.2.2
    gdisk_1.0.1
    tree_1.7.0-3

It is holding up well & I will test the Bluetooth next when a new battery for my 10 year old mobile phone arrives.

Full sized screen-shot here: (Press F11 to toggle into full screen then click on link)

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B_iVVJCd9q09LXVrR2tVbnFiVjg

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2016, 06:26    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,
I am testing some games and programs, and you could also add these 2 more small libraries : (plus 2 others asked before)
- libplibjs.so.1 (for programs like Ardour, Speed Dreams etc)
- libSDL2-2.0.so.0 (for programs like Warsow, steam, Volgarr , The Witcher 2 etc)
.iso is coming, I have faith.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2016, 06:58    Post subject:  

I have sorted out Bluetooth, it now remembers after a reboot -- well, only tested my mouse so far.

The woofCE developer guys will probably be interested, if they have not yet got Bluetooth setup.
I have created a template, package-templates/bluez, that the woofCE guys can use -- when I get around to uploading the latest woofQ.
I have also modified my 'bluepup' PET, not yet uploaded -- that is a GUI for bluez.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2016, 07:15    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
I have sorted out Bluetooth, it now remembers after a reboot -- well, only tested my mouse so far.

The woofCE developer guys will probably be interested, if they have not yet got Bluetooth setup.
I have created a template, package-templates/bluez, that the woofCE guys can use -- when I get around to uploading the latest woofQ.
I have also modified my 'bluepup' PET, not yet uploaded -- that is a GUI for bluez.


Oh, one more thing. I used /etc/init.d/bluetooth in the bluez template, taken from LFS (Linux From Scratch), and it calls functions in /lib/lsb/init-functions, but some do not exist.

'init-functions' is in the 'lsb' template, which woofCE also has. It was modified a long time ago to be puppy-compatible.

I checked the latest init-functions file in Ubuntu, but it also does not have those functions.

So, I have added them to 'init-functions' in the 'lsb' template, in woofQ. Another one the woofCE guys can grab.

I intend to upload woofQ as soon as Quirky Xerus final is released.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2016, 07:25    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
I have found that some extensions do not have default apps; namely ".xz", "png", etc.


I am surprised that you are reporting that.

I just now tested, click on a .png file opens in Viewnior. Click on a .xz file, a window popup offers to expand it.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2016, 08:02    Post subject:  

Quote:
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2028
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2029
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfff9
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffa
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffb
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2028
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2029
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfff9
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffa
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffb
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2028
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2029
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfff9
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffa
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffb
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2028
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2029
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfff9
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffa
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0xfffb


This is due to an old /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, part of the 'fontconfig' package, but Quirky is using an old file modified for Puppy and in the packages-templates/xorg_base (in Woof, still and woofQ, maybe still in woofCE).

Seems doesn't need the <blank> tag anymore, have removed from fonts.conf.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2016, 11:09    Post subject:  

InkscapeLite, one bug fixed, another outstanding:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=106491

...invitation to any C programmer!

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nice to see you have your hands still in the Puppylinux pie, your own creation. I thought that you had retired from the seen :)
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2016, 12:18    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

I installed the 32gb image to a 64gb usb-3.0 flash drive:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 16 Apr 2016 on Quirky Xerus64 7.90 Linux 4.4.7 x86_64
2.0 VGA compatible controller:
Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 3200x900 pixels (846x237 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 11.2.0

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Core 0: @1600 1: @1600 2: @1600 3: @1600 MHz
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2016, 19:37    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

I installed the 8gb image to a 16gb SD card:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 16 Apr 2016 on Quirky Xerus64 7.90 Linux 4.4.7 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller:
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: PARK 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 1600x900 pixels (423x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CEDAR (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 11.2.0

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz
Core 0: @1199 1: @1199 2: @1199 3: @1199 MHz
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2016, 20:15    Post subject:
Subject description: tr reverted to busybox
 

Ha ha, have run into a problem with using the full 'tr' utility from 'coreutils', see my blog report:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00334

The next build will have the busybox tr.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2016, 20:36    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

Billtoo wrote:
I installed the 8gb image to a 16gb SD card:


Bill,
I would like to find out why you have to do this. My script that creates the image file, creates a file smaller than the actual size of my flash drive, so that it will work on other drives that although nominally the same size, might actually be a bit smaller.
So, my 16GB image is supported to fit in all 16GB drives.

This is how my script calculates the size of my drive:

Code:
TARGETDRIVE='sdb'
FDISKINFO="$(fdisk -l /dev/${TARGETDRIVE} 2>/dev/null)"
SIZEBYTES=`echo "$FDISKINFO" | grep '^Disk /dev' | cut -f 5 -d ' '`
SIZEKB=`expr $SIZEBYTES \/ 1024`
SIZEM=`expr $SIZEKB \/ 1024`
echo "$SIZEM"


Would you kindly execute these in a terminal and let me know what value you get for SIZEM.

My 16GB drive gives SIZEM is 14784.

My script then does this:
Code:
SPACEM=640 #under 16GB (case of 16GB drive)
SMALLER0M=`expr $SIZEM - $SPACEM` #some empty space at end of drive.
SMALLERM=`expr $SMALLER0M - 520` #take off size of 1st partition plus gaps 512+8
ONE8TH=`expr $SMALLERM \/ 8`
FINALM=`expr $ONE8TH \* 8`


...where FINALM is the size created for the second partition.

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ndujoe1 wrote:
nice to see you have your hands still in the Puppylinux pie, your own creation. I thought that you had retired from the scene Smile


Ha ha, I have bouts of enthusiasm to play again with Quirky.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2016, 21:17    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

BarryK wrote:

Would you kindly execute these in a terminal and let me know what value you get for SIZEM.

My 16GB drive gives SIZEM is 14784.

My script then does this:
Code:
SPACEM=640 #under 16GB (case of 16GB drive)
SMALLER0M=`expr $SIZEM - $SPACEM` #some empty space at end of drive.
SMALLERM=`expr $SMALLER0M - 520` #take off size of 1st partition plus gaps 512+8
ONE8TH=`expr $SMALLERM \/ 8`
FINALM=`expr $ONE8TH \* 8`


...where FINALM is the size created for the second partition.


# TARGETDRIVE='sdb'
# FDISKINFO="$(fdisk -l /dev/${TARGETDRIVE} 2>/dev/null)"
# SIZEBYTES=`echo "$FDISKINFO" | grep '^Disk /dev' | cut -f 5 -d ' '`
# SIZEKB=`expr $SIZEBYTES \/ 1024`
# SIZEM=`expr $SIZEKB \/ 1024`
# echo "$SIZEM"
15271
# SPACEM=640 #under 16GB (case of 16GB drive)
# SMALLER0M=`expr $SIZEM - $SPACEM` #some empty space at end of drive.
# SMALLERM=`expr $SMALLER0M - 520` #take off size of 1st partition plus gaps 512+8
# ONE8TH=`expr $SMALLERM \/ 8`
# FINALM=`expr $ONE8TH \* 8`
#

I have another 16gb SD card, I'll try to install the 16gb image on it and report back.

Edit:
I installed the 16gb image to a 16gb SD card

Guess I'd better try the 32gb image on a 32gb flash drive next.

Edit2:
The 32gb image installed to the 32gb flash drive okay, my first two 32
gb flash drive attempts failed because of a mistake by me I guess, I have
the proper method now though Smile
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Ha ha, have run into a problem with using the full 'tr' utility from 'coreutils', see my blog report:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00334

The next build will have the busybox tr.

I think that message points to a shell quoting problem, not to a tr problem. Possibly some other string quoting in the script runs together in an unintended way and ends up passing an unescaped backslash to tr. I'd check all backslashes in the script file.

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There is a problem that happens sometimes, if there is an unexpected shutdown (ie a crash), at next bootup, the desktop is gone. JWM is there, but the ROX-Filer icons and wallpaper are missing.

This problem afflicts Quirky and Puppy.

I don't know why it happens, but /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin gets corrupted.

I have put a check into /root/.xinitrc, and if PuppyPin found to be corrupted, it is restored from a backup.

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr 2016, 06:32    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
Testing on an Intel P4 w/5GB RAM. Minor issues in this post; some of which you may have already addressed.

Downloaded and installed using dd v8.21. I downloaded your 4GB upload and installed to an 8GB stick. This was done to insure the 4GB image would install to larger stick and boot without issues. Before the 4GB image was installed to the stick, all contents were erased from the stick. Thus the install process was started on a MSDOS partition-table stick with NO partitions defined. After installation, the stick looks like this in GParted:


Request
When this message surfaces in GParted for viewing the stick, What do you advise community members to do? Should they "fix" or should they "ignore"?



my 4GB image is designed to fit any 4GB Flash drive.

I grind my teeth when I have to deal with GPT. It was supposed to be an improvement over the old MBR.

Placement of the secondary GPT at the physical end of the drive causes so many problems.

It means that when you write one of my image files to a Flash drive, if that drive happened to have had a prior GPT partitioning, using 'dd' to write my image will not erase that old secondary GPT.

It seems that Gparted has detected such a situation in your case.

The fix is to write a correct secondary GPT to end physical end of the drive, and this is what Gparted is offering.

Probably best to answer yes to those questions.

EDIT:
I should also add, if there was no prior old secondary-GPT, then there won't be any secondary-GPT at physical end of drive, which is also an error condition.

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr 2016, 06:40    Post subject:  

I am considering, for the final, to only release a .iso file.

The Quirky Universal Installer, in the Setup menu, will do a proper install to USB or SD-card.

But then, I really need to get the .iso to boot on UEFI PCs.
TedDog was doing some interesting work on this.

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr 2016, 07:20    Post subject:  

Barry :

Most of distros use "hybrid iso" and for a reason : can be burned to a CD, but can also be copied to usb to boot.
Code:
# dd if=puppy.iso of=/dev/sdb


There is a tool which converts "normal" isos to "hybrid" isos : "isohybrid", belonging to project "syslinux".
Command line to convert normal iso to hybrid iso :
Code:
# isohybrid puppy.iso

It can also build EFI iso, with option "-u"
Code:
# isohybrid -u puppy.iso

(--> note : I havent tried that program yet...)
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr 2016, 07:56    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
But then, I really need to get the .iso to boot on UEFI PCs.

Woof-CE already did it.
Original blog post: http://blog.puppylinux.com/?viewDetailed=00011
Discussions: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=106337

This is using grub2-efi, but you can do the same if you prefer to use syslinux-efi. I prefer grub2-efi because it's a single file - you don't have to keep loads of *.c32 files. You do have to maintain 2 config files - isolinux.cfg for BIOS, and grub.cfg for UEFI. But they don't change often anyway.

@linuxcbon: "isohybrid -u" only works if the ISO already supports UEFI booting, that is, processed according to the above links. A non-UEFI capable ISO cannot be converted into UEFI-capable just by running isohybrid.

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jamesbond wrote:
@linuxcbon: "isohybrid -u" only works if the ISO already supports UEFI booting, that is, processed according to the above links. A non-UEFI capable ISO cannot be converted into UEFI-capable just by running isohybrid.

I am pretty sure that you dont need to do all that stuff and that isohybrid can do it alone with "-u" Cool .
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr 2016, 08:36    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,
I have an idea to improve quirky : make it easy to run STEAM (software which can download and launch many linux games, very very very popular).
The client is here :
http://store.steampowered.com/about/
It's a debian file.
It can be installed to puppy, but it needs some programs for it to work, like xdg-user-dir, some scripts to be changed to be run as "root" etc. I already started experimenting, but it's quite long.
666philb already did the job and created a .pet and also improved tahrpup to make it "steam ready".
Many free linux games are found in steam and very popular : Dota 2 , Team Fortress 2 , Ark: Survival of the Fittest , No More Room in Hell , etc...

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linuxcbon wrote:
I am pretty sure that you dont need to do all that stuff and that isohybrid can do it alone with "-u" Cool .

Surety is one thing - but the proof is in the pudding. Take any older puppy ISO that is known not to be UEFI-capable (*not* slacko 6.3.0.6), then run "isohybrid -u" and see what's you got Wink

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jamesbond wrote:
Surety is one thing - but the proof is in the pudding. Take any older puppy ISO that is known not to be UEFI-capable (*not* slacko 6.3.0.6), then run "isohybrid -u" and see what's you got Wink

many distributions use it and it works...So why doesnt it work for you ?
(I cant test, I dont have any UEFI, so I will let other people test it).
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr 2016, 10:07    Post subject:  

linuxcbon wrote:
many distributions use it and it works...So why doesnt it work for you ?
I didn't say it doesn't work. I said that it wouldn't work if you didn't prepare the ISO correctly. I said that you cannot take any random ISO and make it UEFI-bootable just by running isohybrid -u on it.

Quote:
(I cant test, I dont have any UEFI, so I will let other people test it).
You can. As I said, download any non-UEFI puppy.iso, then try to run that "isohybrid -u" on the ISO. See what message you'll get. You don't even need to get to the step of attempting to boot it. I can copy and paste the message I've gotten when *I* do that, but then if you believed everything I said from the beginning we wouldn't have this conversation, do we? Laughing But you are right to question me. Don't take anything you hear for granted.

Oh, you also don't need UEFI machines to test. I've outlined how you can do it at the comfort of your BIOS machine: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=896765#896765.

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr 2016, 12:18    Post subject:  

Hi BarryK:

If you are going completely back to the .iso standard, can you possibly repost in more detail how you create the usfs.xz files in the past? I tried to follow your previous posts about it but failed to recreate. Perhaps a walk-through?

Much appreciated if you could take the time.

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr 2016, 14:22    Post subject:  

Hints for some missing libs :

http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libcg
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libcggl
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libpng16-16
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libmikmod3
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libsdl-mixer1.2
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libsdl2-2.0-0
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libsdl-ttf2.0-0
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libenet7

http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/shared-mime-info
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/xdg-user-dirs
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/xdg-utils

there are others, but these ones are the most important (for some games and steam and firefox especially)...
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr 2016, 14:25    Post subject:
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BarryK wrote:
Ha ha, have run into a problem with using the full 'tr' utility from 'coreutils', see my blog report:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00334
The next build will have the busybox tr.


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jamesbond wrote:
Surety is one thing - but the proof is in the pudding. Take any older puppy ISO that is known not to be UEFI-capable (*not* slacko 6.3.0.6), then run "isohybrid -u" and see what's you got Wink


ok I got
Code:
 # isohybrid -u precise-5.7.1.iso
isohybrid: precise-5.7.1.iso: unable to find efi image
 # isohybrid -u werewolf64-7.4.iso
isohybrid: werewolf64-7.4.iso: unable to find efi image


Damn, I need to study the topic... Confused
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 01:18    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
Oh, you also don't need UEFI machines to test. I've outlined how you can do it at the comfort of your BIOS machine: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=896765#896765.


Just when I was lamenting that I don't have a UEFI PC with inbuilt optical drive!

Note, I tried to boot from external USB optical drive on my Asus E200HA UEFI baby laptop, but the firmware won't recognise its existence.

I'm currently playing with isohybrid, and have had partial success.
I used 'dd' to copy the .iso file to a flash drive, and booted on my baby laptop.

jamesbond,
What do you think? If my iso will boot on a flash drive, is that a pretty good indicator that it will also boot on an internal optical drive?

Note, I had to do some black magic to get my UEFI-firmware to recognise the esp fat image file 'efiboot.img' that I created in the iso.

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 01:40    Post subject:  

Barry, I saw your blog on coreutils. I understand.

But, @Musher0 seems to offer some help and insight with this thread. If useful, you might consider it as it could reduce your work in bash in the future.

You may have already seen it. He does echo comments you've made.

This is just a minor thought that may be helpful in your moving forward.

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BarryK wrote:
Just when I was lamenting that I don't have a UEFI PC with inbuilt optical drive!
Now you don't have any excuse Laughing

Quote:
I'm currently playing with isohybrid, and have had partial success.
I used 'dd' to copy the .iso file to a flash drive, and booted on my baby laptop.


Quote:
jamesbond,
What do you think? If my iso will boot on a flash drive, is that a pretty good indicator that it will also boot on an internal optical drive?
If you use "isohybrid -u" to make it bootable on flash, and the boot from flash is the UEFI boot (not BIOS boot), then yes, the iso will probably boot on optical drive too.

Quote:
Note, I had to do some black magic to get my UEFI-firmware to recognise the esp fat image file 'efiboot.img' that I created in the iso.
What do you use for making the ISO? cdrkit's mkisofs is not a good choice. Use either xorriso, or cdrtool's mkisofs. I had to use blackmagic too when I still used cdrkit's mkisofs.
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jamesbond wrote:
Quote:
jamesbond,
What do you think? If my iso will boot on a flash drive, is that a pretty good indicator that it will also boot on an internal optical drive?
If you use "isohybrid -u" to make it bootable on flash, and the boot from flash is the UEFI boot (not BIOS boot), then yes, the iso will probably boot on optical drive too.

Quote:
Note, I had to do some black magic to get my UEFI-firmware to recognise the esp fat image file 'efiboot.img' that I created in the iso.
What do you use for making the ISO? cdrkit's mkisofs is not a good choice. Use either xorriso, or cdrtool's mkisofs. I had to use blackmagic too when I still used cdrkit's mkisofs.


It is very much a work in progress.

Actually, I used xorriso, it has some isohybrid options:

Code:
 xorriso -as mkisofs -o ${ISONAME} -isohybrid-mbr isohdpfx.bin \
   -c boot.cat -b isolinux.bin -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \
   -eltorito-alt-boot -e efiboot.img -no-emul-boot -isohybrid-gpt-basdat ./build/


I then used 'dd' to write the iso to a USB stick, and hey, my baby laptop recognised it, even (started) to boot -- it loaded vmlinuz, but I haven't yet put an initrd into it. One step at a time.

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 04:11    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
Actually, I used xorriso, it has some isohybrid options:

Code:
 xorriso -as mkisofs -o ${ISONAME} -isohybrid-mbr isohdpfx.bin \
   -c boot.cat -b isolinux.bin -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \
   -eltorito-alt-boot -e efiboot.img -no-emul-boot -isohybrid-gpt-basdat ./build/
.

Yes, this will do. No "isohybrid -u" is needed in this case (the gpt-basdat takes care of that). My xorriso incantation is similar, but I don't use the "-as mkisofs" so all the options are xorriso native options:
Code:
         xorriso -dev "/path/to/output.iso \
         -volid "FATDOG_LIVE" \
         -compliance "iso_9660_level=3:iso_9660_1999" \
         -map "/path/to/iso-root" / \
         -boot_image isolinux dir=/    \
         -boot_image isolinux system_area=/usr/share/syslinux/isohdpfx.bin \
         -boot_image isolinux partition_table=on \
         -boot_image isolinux next \
         -boot_image any efi_path=efiboot.img \
         -boot_image isolinux partition_entry=gpt_basdat

EDIT: The only downside to xorriso is that its iso9960_1999 ("iso-level 4" in cdrtools' mkisofs) is not working, as late as version 1.4.0. I haven't tried newer version. Impact: Windows can't see the long filenames. But if this is not a concern, then xorriso is good to go.

Quote:
I then used 'dd' to write the iso to a USB stick, and hey, my baby laptop recognised it, even (started) to boot -- it loaded vmlinuz, but I haven't yet put an initrd into it. One step at a time.
Yes, this means it works. Do you use grub2-efi, or still the syslinux-efi? If you use syslinux-efi, you need to keep two copies of vmlinuz and initrd: one in the iso-root (for BIOS isolinux), another one inside efiboot.img (for syslinux-efi). If you use grub2-efi you only need to keep one copy, in the iso-root.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 08:59    Post subject:  

OK, I have created an ISO for testing!

Here it is, feedback requested:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00341

jamesbond,
Yes, I have only used syslinux/isolinux, and have two vmlinuz and initrd.

I have a script in woofQ that creates this ISO. I will upload woofQ after releasing Quirky Xerus 8.0.

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slavvo67 wrote:
Hi BarryK:

If you are going completely back to the .iso standard, can you possibly repost in more detail how you create the usfs.xz files in the past? I tried to follow your previous posts about it but failed to recreate. Perhaps a walk-through?

Much appreciated if you could take the time.

Best,

Slavvo67


You need to get hold of woofQ. I plan to upload it after releasing Quirky 8.0. Might upload woofQ as a tarball, as an alternative to my Bones version control system.

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 09:16    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
OK, I have created an ISO for testing!

wow you are fast Smile I am still learning how to use isohybrid LOL.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 10:33    Post subject:  

Quirky Xerus 7.90

- internet not connected by default !
solved with
Code:
# network_default_connect
# route: SIOCADDRT: File exists
Waiting for interfaces to initialize...
configuring network interface eth0
cheching if interface eth0 is alive...yes
dhcpcd[29590]: sending commands to master dhcpcd process
dhcpcd[29590]: send OK
Success!


- all programs have this
Code:
Unable to update the static FcBlanks: 0x2028


-
Code:
# ppm
tr: warning: an unescaped backslash at end of string is not portable


- pmount slow to start ("probing hardware")

- gparted doesnt reckognize EFI partition in stick, but fdisk does show.
Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1 * 0 716799 716800 350M 0 Empty
/dev/sdb2 136 16519 16384 8M ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)

- seamonkey
Code:
*** BUG ***
In pixman_region32_reset: Malformed region region
Set a breakpoint on '_pixman_log_error' to debug
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 10:56    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
jamesbond,
Yes, I have only used syslinux/isolinux, and have two vmlinuz and initrd.


Gaaaah!! Evil or Very Mad I wasn't aware of this earlier.
http://www.syslinux.org/archives/2015-April/023381.html
http://www.syslinux.org/archives/2015-October/024469.html

Just for fun - testing was done in qemu:
a) grub2-efi works (tested)
b) gummiboot works (tested) - gummiboot recently renamed as "systemd-boot" but it actually has nothing to do with systemd except that it's developed by the same guy (no, not Lennard - it's Kay).
EDIT : C) or you may want to try refind : http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/

After booting, it fails to start desktop, because of missing fbdev Xorg driver. modesetting driver doesn't work, vesa doesn't work. It should probably work on real machine with intel/radeon/nvidia card.

If you prefer gummiboot, the bootloader is attached. For example of how to use it, I've uploaded the FAT image here: http://www.lightofdawn.org/g.img. Use this g.img instead of efiboot.img and quirky will boot.

Note: let me know when you've grabbed this g.img. I'll remove it after that.

@linuxcbon: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Isohybrid#UEFI - isohybrid only adds GPT partition tables to make the efiboot.img visible as ESP. But you need to have efiboot.img already *inside* the ISO to begin with. That's why "isohybrid -u" fails for some random non-UEFI ISO.
gummibootx64.efi.gz
Description  Gunzip before use.
Source: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/gummiboot/
Doc: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/systemd-boot/
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 11:09    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

I booted the dvd on my macmini, efi wouldn't boot but it did boot from
the other.
I ran the installer and did a frugal install to a 32gb usb-3.0 flash
drive.
I moved the flash drive to an Acer laptop and it booted, I've rebooted
a couple of times since choosing save, I added gkrellm with QPM.

Seems to be working okay so far.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 11:35    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

Billtoo wrote:
I booted the dvd on my macmini, efi wouldn't boot but it did boot from
the other.


What do you mean by "other"?
Legacy Boot enabled?

Anyway, I haven't researched booting on a Mac.

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 11:37    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
If you prefer gummiboot, the bootloader is attached. For example of how to use it, I've uploaded the FAT image here: http://www.lightofdawn.org/g.img. Use this g.img instead of efiboot.img and quirky will boot.

Note: let me know when you've grabbed this g.img. I'll remove it after that.


OK, got it.

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 11:51    Post subject:  

Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)
Not wishing to appear greedy nor churlish, but a 'final' which fits on a CD-RW would still be invaluable in 32bit format for working with land-fill rescued machines. Perhaps one of the gurus circling the fold could take on the task?
Otherwise, working well on older 754 & 939 machines, except with VX5450/512 HDMI card, yes, even with v.11 FP/BBC. Default video setting 1600x??? bit too high for older HW and older users...
Not able to release UEFI kit for testing at present.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 12:36    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

I booted the dvd from a usb optical drive on my hp mini Stream 200-009, it has 2gb ram,
Windows 10 on the 32gb SSD.
EFI wouldn't boot but legacy did, I don't want to mess with secure boot
in case I make a mistake and screw things up so nothing will boot,
sorry.

I ran the installer and it seemed to be working well but froze the
computer during the process, not enought ram maybe.

So, I moved my other 32gb usb-3.0 flash drive from the Acer laptop and
booted that, the boot screen shows legacy devices and efi devices, I
chose efi and it booted fine.

Hope this is helpful.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 13:46    Post subject: T2 update?  

Hi Barry, is this being updated on your T2?

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 14:09    Post subject: Savefile  

Hi Barry K,

I installed Xerus iso successfully to USB flashdrive copy/pasting
the dd command from your blog.
Xerus ran normally with the settings adjusted for my needs.

But after all that work time spent, the big surprise came at closedown,
when I realised there are only two location options available
for the savefile - dvd or pc harddrive.

For me neither of these is relevant, so as in all previous puppies,
why is there no gui facility to save back to the USB stick?
Can this omission be rectified in any future update release please?

Best regards.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 14:47    Post subject: Initial report ... an issue  

Downloaded ISO, Checksum matches, Burn DVD via pBurn, and booted "LIVE" to non-UEFI X2 desktop. (I do not have a UEFI PC at this time for testing). At session end, I noticed that Live does NOT offer a save at shutdown. Maybe an option should display on Live-boot if a save-session should be selected from the desktop or ... (every puppy user is NOT going to pre-read the Xerus blog directions before shutdown attempted and their session's configurations is lost)

Note: Traditionally wired ethernet is/should be discovered upon boot going to desktop. This ISO is not. Might that be reconsidered for home wired LANs to avoid new user confusion. My home LAN as with other home LANs are secure. Assume yours is also.

My system pristine boot info below. Please do not overlook the info in each image's "Description".
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 15:21    Post subject: Re: T2 update? Not April...  

Just realized this is Debian based not T2.... sorry... move along...

gcav wrote:
Hi Barry, is this being updated on your T2?

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 16:47    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)
Subject description: Sound on hp mini Stream
 

Sound is not supported on my hp mini Stream ootb.
I've connected a powered usb hub and have a usb sound card plugged into
that, so I now have sound, on youtube at least. Smile

Edit: I have sound when playing a movie dvd from the usb optical drive in xine as well.
One problem is when I plug another drive in it overwrites the other drive icon above the panel.
sr0 covered sdb2 until I moved it.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 17:33    Post subject: Re: Savefile  

Rodney Byne wrote:
Hi Barry K,

I installed Xerus iso successfully to USB flashdrive copy/pasting
the dd command from your blog.
Xerus ran normally with the settings adjusted for my needs.

But after all that work time spent, the big surprise came at closedown,
when I realised there are only two location options available
for the savefile - dvd or pc harddrive.

For me neither of these is relevant, so as in all previous puppies,
why is there no gui facility to save back to the USB stick?
Can this omission be rectified in any future update release please?

Best regards.


it is not an omission. You wrote an ISO file to the USB stick and booted from that. It is not a USB installation.

You have to run the Installer and install to a USB stick.

Also, as I mentioned, this ISO is specifically for testing UEFI booting, and the Quirky Installer (and save icon) might not be working quite right -- as Quirky has never before been booted from an ISO written to a USB-stick.

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 17:41    Post subject:  

"Back to the drawing board"

The ISO will not boot on a UEFI machine, from optical drive. Only in Legacy Mode.

It will boot on a UEFI machine if the ISO is dd'ed to a USB stick and booted from that.

I am now able to test booting from an optical drive on UEFI-firmware machine.
When I boot my Asus baby laptop cold, the external drive is not recognised. However, if I start Windows, then do a restart, the "warm reboot" allows the UEFI-firmware to recognise the external optical drive.

My disc would not boot. Lubuntu did.

So, I need to delve back in to it...

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 17:45    Post subject:  

Attempted the live cd on the hexa-core (UEFI w/secure boot toggled off) but got nothing but a blank monitor. No text,no prompt,so moved to an old box I happened to be playing with.

Booted with everything working except internet,SNS made quick work of that.

Code:
# inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: puppypc9346 Kernel: 4.4.7 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.3.1)
           Desktop: JWM git-976 dm: N/A Distro: Quirky 7.90 xerus64
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: A8V-MQ v: Rev 1.xx serial: MB-1234567890
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 0210 date: 03/31/2006
CPU:       Single core AMD Athlon 64 3800+ (-UP-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3) bmips: 4801 speed: 2400 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000]
           bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0185
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: vesa)
           tty size: 80x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
           driver: snd_via82xx port: e400 bus-ID: 00:11.5 chip-ID: 1106:3059
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.7
Network:   Card: VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II]
           driver: via-rhine port: e800 bus-ID: 00:12.0 chip-ID: 1106:3065
           IF: eth0 state: unknown speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 00:15:f2:3d:a8:d4
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (1.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2500AAKX size: 250.1GB serial: N/A
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 4.19GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
RAID:      System: supported: raid0
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 110 Uptime: 11 min Memory: 213.2/2008.2MB
           Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.01 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.2.35



Code:
# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       2056364     885548    1170816     346556      76168     597472
-/+ buffers/cache:     211908    1844456
Swap:      4095996          0    4095996
#


Will try again later on the UEFI box.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 17:50    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Attempted the live cd on the hexa-core (UEFI w/secure boot toggled off) but got nothing but a blank monitor. No text,no prompt,so moved to an old box I happened to be playing with.


That's right. UEFI-firmware recognises the ISO, but choosing it, only gives a blank screen.

Don't bother to do any more UEFI booting testing, it does not work. See my previous post.

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 18:06    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 19:22    Post subject:  

DD'd the 32gb img file onto my trusty PNY brand 32gb USB 3.0. Ran it on my new HP Stream Laptop. A few quick notes:

Having trouble getting the internal wifi to work. Luckily, I have 2 USB ports, so the good 'ol Netgear N-150 wifi usb stick works perfectly. This little baby works on every Puppy so for now, that's my wifi option.

It did take a while to "dd" onto the USB so patience is important. Have both UEFI and non-UEFI?(old) boot options. So far, I only used UEFI and it works nicely.

Successfully installed: Libre Office4.4, Mplayer, HandBrakeCLI, Unrtf, PDFTK and after a bit of work, got Imagemagick working. I had to add quite a few libs for that one but she's working great! Added Right Click tools which are also working nicely.

Now, I am only missing some of my old 32bit standbys like Zaxxon, for example.

There's a lot to like about Xerus. - Thanks Barry!!

Some spec:

Pup-SysInfo Hardware Report (Summary), Mon 18 Apr 2016

Current Time: 19:32:20
System Uptime: 40 min
Load Average: 0.23 0.38 0.40

====> BASE SYSTEM <====

PC Manufacturer: HP
Product Name: HP Stream Notebook

Motherboard Vendor: HP
Product Name: 815E

BIOS Vendor: Insyde
Version: F.12
Release Date: 01/05/2016

Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N3050 @ 1.60GHz
Max Speed: 1660 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:640 MHz, 1:1601 MHz
Core Count: 2
Thread Count: 2

Frequency governor : ondemand
Freq. scaling driver : acpi-cpufreq

Core 0 (coretemp) : +44.0 C (high = +90.0 C, crit = +90.0 C)
Core 2 (coretemp) : +46.0 C (high = +90.0 C, crit = +90.0 C)

Memory Allocation:
Total RAM: 1865 MB
Used RAM: 514 MB
Free RAM: 1351 MB
Buffers: 0 MB
Cached: 324 MB
Total Swap: 0 MB
Free Swap: 0 MB

Actual Used RAM: 190 MB Used - (buffers + cached)
Actual Free RAM: 1675 MB Free + (buffers + cached)

Linux Kernel: 4.4.7 (x86_64)
Kernel Version: #1 SMP Wed Apr 13 08:43:11 GMT-8 2016

Distro: Quirky Xerus64 7.90
Window Manager: JWM vgit-976
Desktop Start: xwin jwm

Development:
Bash: 4.3.0
Geany: 1.24.1
Gtkdialog: 0.8.4
Perl: 5.22.1
Python: 2.7.11+
Yad: 0.27.0
--
busybox: 1.24.1
dhcpcd: 6.6.2
Glibc: 2.23
OpenSSL: 1.0.2g 1 Mar 2016, built on: reproducible build, date unspecified
wpa_supplicant: 2.4

Username: root
Language: en_US.UTF-8
Keyboard: us
Timezone: Etc/GMT-8

Firewall: On (ip_tables active)
Network Interface: wlan0
Wireless Network: Peach1
Bit Rate=52 Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm
Link Quality=56/70 Signal=-54 dBm
Wireless strength: 80%
Session Data: Received 5.3 MB, Sent 471.0 KB
Monthly Data: Received 408 MB, Sent 25 MB

Hostname: puppypc31186
Network IP Address: 192.168.0.12
Domain Name Server (DNS): 24.233.167.167
24.233.167.168
Hardware Address (MAC): A0:63:91:01:6B:18

Boot File System: f2fs

PUPMODE=2

====> BATTERY (BAT0) <====

Complete Report:
Manufacture Date ManufDate
Name PO02037
design capacity 4896 mAh
last full capacity 4896 mAh
design voltage 7600 mV
design capacity warning 394 mAh
design capacity low 149 mAh
capacity granularity 1 10 mAh
capacity granularity 2 25 mAh
capacity state ok
charging state discharging
present rate 785 mA
remaining capacity 4384 mAh
present voltage 8308 mV

Capacity Summary:
Remaining capacity: 4384 mAh, 89.5% of last full capacity
Design capacity: 4896 mAh
Last full capacity: 4896 mAh, 100.0% of design capacity
Capacity loss: 0%

====> DISPLAY <====

Display Specifications:
+ Monitor VertRefresh: 60.00 times/s
+ Screen Dimensions: 1366x768 pixels (361x203 millimeters)
+ Screen Depth: 24 bits (planes)

Xorg Startup Log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
+ Xorg Driver in use: intel
+ Loaded Modules: dbe dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse present synaptics
+ X.Org version: 1.18.3

OpenGL 2D/3D Rendering:
+ Direct Rendering: Yes
+ Vendor: Intel Open Source Technology Center
+ Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics (Cherryview)
+ Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0

VGA compatible controller:
+ Intel Corporation Device 22b1 (rev 21)

====> MULTIMEDIA <====

Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:2284] (rev 21)

====> NETWORK <====

Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4365] (rev 01)

====> INPUT DEVICES <====

AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
HDA Digital PCBeep
HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm=3
HDA Intel PCH Headphone
HDA Intel PCH Mic
HP Truevision HD
HP Wireless hotkeys
HP WMI hotkeys
Lid Switch
PC Speaker
Power Button
SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
Video Bus

====> PCI DEVICES <====

Host bridge
+ Intel Corporation Device
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=2280 Rev=21
+ Kernel Driver=iosf_mbi_pci
+ Kernel Module=iosf_mbi

VGA compatible controller
+ Intel Corporation Device
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=22b1 Rev=21
IntelR HD Graphics
+ Kernel Driver=i915
+ Kernel Module=i915

Signal processing controller
+ Intel Corporation Device
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=22dc Rev=21

USB controller
+ Intel Corporation Device
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=22b5 Rev=21
+ Kernel Driver=xhci_hcd

Encryption controller
+ Intel Corporation Device
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=2298 Rev=21

Audio device
+ Intel Corporation Device
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=2284 Rev=21
+ Kernel Driver=snd_hda_intel
+ Kernel Module=snd_hda_intel

PCI bridge
+ Intel Corporation Device
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=22c8 Rev=21
+ Kernel Driver=pcieport
+ Kernel Module=shpchp

PCI bridge
+ Intel Corporation Device
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=22ce Rev=21
+ Kernel Driver=pcieport
+ Kernel Module=shpchp

ISA bridge
+ Intel Corporation Device
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=229c Rev=21
+ Kernel Driver=lpc_ich
+ Kernel Module=lpc_ich

SMBus
+ Intel Corporation Device
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=2292 Rev=21
+ Kernel Module=i2c_i801

Unassigned class
+ Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5229 PCI Express Card Reader
+ VendorID=10ec DeviceID=5229 Rev=01
+ Kernel Driver=rtsx_pci
+ Kernel Module=rtsx_pci

Network controller
+ Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n
+ VendorID=14e4 DeviceID=4365 Rev=01
Broadcom WLAN Broadcom Nami 43142 bgn 1x1 + BT 4 LE PCIe+USB NGFF 1630 MOW
+ Kernel Driver=bcma-pci-bridge
+ Kernel Module=bcma

====> PRINTERS <====

DefaultPrinter CUPS-PDF

====> SCSI DEVICES <====

PNY USB 3.0 FD Rev: 1.00

====> SCSI PARTITIONS <====

sda: 32.0GB- mmcblk0rpmb: 4194kB
mmcblk0boot0: 4194kB- mmcblk0boot1: 4194kB
MMC BGND3R (sd/mmc)- mmcblk0: 31.3GB
SD SU08G (sd/mmc)- mmcblk1: 7948MB

mmcblk0p1 vfat 260MB
mmcblk0p3 ntfs 28.2GB
mmcblk0p4 ntfs 681MB
mmcblk1p1 vfat 7.4GB
sda1 vfat 512MB
sda2 f2fs 26.9GB

====> SCSI PARTITIONS MOUNTED <====

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda2 27G 3.3G 24G 13% /

====> USB DEVICES <====

VendorID=1d6b ProductID=0002 Rev=04.04
Manufacturer=Linux 4.4.7 xhci-hcd
Product=xHCI Host Controller
Driver=hub

VendorID=0846 ProductID=9030 Rev=01.08
Manufacturer=NETGEAR WNA
Product=WNA1100
Driver=ath9k_htc

VendorID=154b ProductID=0095 Rev=10.75
Manufacturer=PNY Technologies
Product=USB 3.0 FD
Driver=usb-storage

VendorID=05c8 ProductID=0379 Rev=01.03
Manufacturer=Sonix Technology Co., Ltd.
Product=HP Truevision HD
Driver=uvcvideo

VendorID=0a5c ProductID=216d Rev=01.12
Manufacturer=Broadcom Corp
Product=BCM43142A0
Driver=btusb

VendorID=1d6b ProductID=0003 Rev=04.04
Manufacturer=Linux 4.4.7 xhci-hcd
Product=xHCI Host Controller
Driver=hub

--

Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0a5c:216d Broadcom Corp.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05c8:0379 Cheng Uei Precision Industry Co., Ltd (Foxlink)
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 154b:0095 PNY
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0846:9030 NetGear, Inc. WNA1100 Wireless-N 150 [Atheros AR9271]
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

=== END OF SUMMARY REPORT ===

This report is also available in
/tmp/root/PSI-HW-SUMMARY-160418.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 21:31    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:


Having trouble getting the internal wifi to work. Luckily, I have 2 USB ports, so the good 'ol Netgear N-150 wifi usb stick works perfectly. This little baby works on every Puppy so for now, that's my wifi option.



My HP mini Stream has the same wireless adapter as yours
Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)

There is a driver available in X-Slacko-4.0 that works.
Here's a link to the X-Slacko-4.0 thread with the info:
The last few messages on that page, the driver only works in X-Slacko-4.0 and I guess with tahrpup that has the same kernel.


http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88846&start=975

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 21:39    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Attempted the live cd on the hexa-core (UEFI w/secure boot toggled off) but got nothing but a blank monitor. No text,no prompt,so moved to an old box I happened to be playing with.

Booted with everything working except internet,SNS made quick work of that.

Code:
# inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: puppypc9346 Kernel: 4.4.7 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.3.1)
           Desktop: JWM git-976 dm: N/A Distro: Quirky 7.90 xerus64
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: A8V-MQ v: Rev 1.xx serial: MB-1234567890
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 0210 date: 03/31/2006
CPU:       Single core AMD Athlon 64 3800+ (-UP-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3) bmips: 4801 speed: 2400 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000]
           bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0185
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: vesa)
           tty size: 80x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
           driver: snd_via82xx port: e400 bus-ID: 00:11.5 chip-ID: 1106:3059
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.7
Network:   Card: VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II]
           driver: via-rhine port: e800 bus-ID: 00:12.0 chip-ID: 1106:3065
           IF: eth0 state: unknown speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 00:15:f2:3d:a8:d4
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (1.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2500AAKX size: 250.1GB serial: N/A
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 4.19GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
RAID:      System: supported: raid0
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 110 Uptime: 11 min Memory: 213.2/2008.2MB
           Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.01 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.2.35



Code:
# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       2056364     885548    1170816     346556      76168     597472
-/+ buffers/cache:     211908    1844456
Swap:      4095996          0    4095996
#


Will try again later on the UEFI box.


Saved initial session to an Ext4 partition on the internal hdd. On reboot,the saved internet config failed to connect ,deleted saved config, ran SNS again and it's working again.

Otherwise,everything else appears to have been saved correctly.

Both video and audio working on Youtube ootb.

EDIT: fixed typo.

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 21:42    Post subject:  

Yay, Gummiboot works!

I compiled gummiboot, see here:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00342

I plugged gummiboot into my live-cd build script in woofQ, and burnt a DVD.

On my UEFI machine, it boots. Or rather, I get a menu, but then it can't find vmlinuz -- that's coz I got the path wrong, will fix that.

I have to try the iso dd'ed to a flash drive. if that works, we're cookin' with gas Very Happy

jamesbond, thanks for reminding me about gummiboot. Never tried it before, it sure is simple. Pity about systemd.

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Apr 2016, 23:15    Post subject:  

Yippee, Gummiboot works!

On my UEFI laptop, boots the ISO from optical media and from USB.

Looks like I'm on track to release Quirky 8.0 about the same day that Ubuntu releases 16.04.

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Apr 2016, 03:10    Post subject:  

Quote:
.. if I start Windows, then do a restart, the "warm reboot" allows the UEFI-firmware to recognise the external optical drive..

All those ,000s of Redmond guys earning $$$m can be outwitted by one clever fellow who really knows what he's doing. Help - can't stop laughing. Misguided $-besotted coders in the country with no name! Watch out for Mt. St. Helen's - next time it might spill over onto Hanford, even Redmond...
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Apr 2016, 03:17    Post subject:  

Barry, you may want to update to latest version: additional work done addressing "Badlock".

SAMBA security concern addressed

V4.4.2 available. You might want this in for Puppy Xerus

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Apr 2016, 06:32    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
Barry, you may want to update to latest version: additional work done addressing "Badlock".

SAMBA security concern addressed

V4.4.2 available. You might want this in for Puppy Xerus


I am using Samba DEBs from Ubuntu. If they apply security fixes, then I will have them too.

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Apr 2016, 10:53    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
Yippee, Gummiboot works!

Gummiboot Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Apr 2016, 19:54    Post subject:  

Fastest download site of the ISO

http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/xerus-7.90/

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Apr 2016, 22:55    Post subject:  

Hi,

I seem to be having a problem with Simple Network Setup saving connecting with saved network information from previous boot. I have to delete and reconnect with password.

Also, it seems that defaultchanger is not identifying installed items. For example, I don't see LibreWriter as an option to put in default box.

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr 2016, 01:31    Post subject:  

Live cd on another old non-UEFI box........ boots fine.

Code:
# inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: puppypc16397 Kernel: 4.4.7 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.3.1)
           Desktop: JWM git-976 dm: N/A Distro: Quirky 7.90 xerus64
Machine:   Mobo: ASRock model: N68-S UCC
           Bios: American Megatrends v: P1.70 date: 03/03/2011
CPU:       Dual core AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 svm) bmips: 10854
           clock speeds: max: 2712 MHz 1: 2712 MHz 2: 2712 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: vesa)
           tty size: 80x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:05.0 chip-ID: 10de:03f0
           Card-2 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 02:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.7
Network:   Card: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet
           driver: forcedeth port: d480 bus-ID: 00:07.0 chip-ID: 10de:03ef
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 00:25:22:61:55:fc
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1250.3GB (1.1% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB serial: N/A
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST3250318AS size: 250.1GB serial: N/A
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 8.49GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
           ID-2: swap-2 size: 6.40GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
RAID:      System: supported: raid0
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
free
Info:      Processes: 126 Uptime: 7 min Memory: 256.2/3958.2MB
           Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.01 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.2.35



Code:
# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       4053240     970292    3082948     346548      85212     628804
-/+ buffers/cache:     256276    3796964
Swap:     14540792          0   14540792
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr 2016, 11:28    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)  

Running from a 32gb usb-3.0 flash drive on HP mini Stream desktop,
connected to a 32inch TV with a HDMI cable.

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Celeron(R) 2957U @ 1.40GHz
Memory 1904MB (170MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Xerus64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Wed Apr 20 11:12:00 2016
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Mobile
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH

OpenGL
Vendor Intel Open Source Technology Center
Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Mobile
Version 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0
Direct Rendering Y_es

Sound is working, used retrovol to configure hw1:

Edit: later, works great.
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr 2016, 22:18    Post subject:  

Quirky Xerus 8.0 final is out!

Announcement, links, etc. here:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00344

One thing I didn't get quite right is booting the ISO on my Asus E200HA baby laptop, yeah it boots OK with the UEFI-firmware, however at bootup it displays:

Scanning: mmcblk0p1 zram sda1

I had recompiled the kernel with support for MMC memory builtin, before it was modules. This is because my Asus has internal eMMC Flash memory.

Having booted from an ISO, a session can be saved, but then the scan must find it at next bootup.
There are actually mmcblkop1, 2, 3 and 4.

Don't know why they weren't found, maybe a little "sleep" is required in the 'init' script in the initrd.

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr 2016, 23:49    Post subject:  

Live cd, booted and working. Will try an install to hdd shortly.

Code:
# inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: puppypc10426 Kernel: 4.4.7 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.3.1)
           Desktop: JWM git-976 dm: N/A Distro: Quirky 8.0 xerus64
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx serial: 150545593600028
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU:       Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 42161
           clock speeds: min/max: 1400/3500 MHz 1: 1400 MHz 2: 1400 MHz
           3: 1400 MHz 4: 3000 MHz 5: 1400 MHz 6: 1400 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: vesa)
           tty size: 80x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.7
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 1c:87:2c:5a:bb:e2
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1120.2GB (0.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB serial: N/A
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB serial: N/A
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 8.60GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
RAID:      System: supported: raid0
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
free
Info:      Processes: 154 Uptime: 8 min Memory: 344.1/15964.2MB
           Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.01 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.2.35



Code:
# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:      16347356    1062760   15284596     343660      85616     630736
-/+ buffers/cache:     346408   16000948
Swap:      8396796          0    8396796
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr 2016, 23:54    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

Running from a 64gb usb-3.0 flash drive, pc is a HP desktop.

Summary
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Memory 12260MB (1694MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Xerus64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Wed Apr 20 23:41:01 2016
Display
Resolution 3200x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
Input Devices
Logitech USB Receiver
Logitech USB Receiver
Power Button
Power Button
Video Bus
HDA Digital PCBeep
HDA Intel PCH Front Mic
HDA Intel PCH Rear Mic
HDA Intel PCH Line
HDA Intel PCH Speaker Front
HDA Intel PCH Speaker Surround
HDA Intel PCH Speaker CLFE
HDA Intel PCH Speaker Side
HDA Intel PCH Front Headphone
PC Speaker
Printers (CUPS)
CUPS-PDF Default
SCSI Disks
ATA ST2000DM001-9YN1
hp DVD-RAM SW810
Kingston DataTraveler 3.0
Generic- SD/MMC
Generic- Compact Flash
Generic- SM/xD-Picture
Generic- MS/MS-Pro
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 4.4.7 (x86_64)
Version #1 SMP Wed Apr 20 17:09:25 GMT-8 2016
C Library Unknown
Distribution Quirky Xerus64
OpenGL
Vendor Intel Open Source Technology Center
Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop
Version 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0
Direct Rendering Y_es

I added some applications with QPM.

It's working well, thanks for Quirky Xerus64.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 00:10    Post subject:  

Successful frugal install to sdb1, everything appears to be working correctly on boot.

Did notice that the window for the grub stanza was incorrect.Correct is (hd0,1) while the supplied was (hd19,0).
Don't think that would boot..... Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 05:33    Post subject:  

Will xerus64-8.0.iso boot using ISObooter?

I have 1.88GiB free space available on my ISObooter sdb1 FAT32 partition on a Sandisk Cruzer Edge 8GB Flash Drive.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 06:44    Post subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
Will xerus64-8.0.iso boot using ISObooter?

I have 1.88GiB free space available on my ISObooter sdb1 FAT32 partition on a Sandisk Cruzer Edge 8GB Flash Drive.


I have never tried ISObooter, so you will have to try Quirky ISO with it and report back.

I found this forum thread:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67235

If you have any old Flash stick, of 512MB or greater, you can just 'dd' the iso to it, and it will boot. My install page explains:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/xerus-8.0/install-readme.htm

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 06:49    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
Quirky Xerus 7.90 (8.0beta)
Not wishing to appear greedy nor churlish, but a 'final' which fits on a CD-RW would still be invaluable in 32bit format for working with land-fill rescued machines. Perhaps one of the gurus circling the fold could take on the task?
Otherwise, working well on older 754 & 939 machines, except with VX5450/512 HDMI card, yes, even with v.11 FP/BBC. Default video setting 1600x??? bit too high for older HW and older users...
Not able to release UEFI kit for testing at present.


Sorry, I can't support x86 32-bit anymore, I just don't have the time.
The same story for ARM.

My intended future direction is to support 64-bit x86 touch-screen tablets and 2-in-1 laptops. There is too much going on in my life to have a wider scope.

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 07:26    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
If you have any old Flash stick, of 512MB or greater, you can just 'dd' the iso to it, and it will boot. My install page explains:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/xerus-8.0/install-readme.htm


@barry
In the Booting section, a small typo...
Should be
Code:
turn OFF "Secure Boot"


See:
Code:
The main thing that you have to do it turn of "Secure Boot" to be able to bootup an external operating system, as explained here:
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 07:54    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

I did another install to the same HP desktop but this time I used the
alternative method, there is a huge difference in the memory usage.

Summary
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Memory 12260MB (105MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Xerus64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu Apr 21 07:38:40 2016
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 08:57    Post subject:  

Quote:

Sorry, I can't support x86 32-bit anymore, I just don't have the time.
The same story for ARM.

Fair comment - glad of all offerings. Just floating the request in case one of the resident gurus feels moved.
If you were able to provide a version capable of replacing Android on smart mobiles and tablets that would be a massive contribution. A complete how-to would be required, though. Google seems to under something of a cloud(!) recently due to the exclusivity deals they've been forging. They also have a reputation for storing everyone's personal info.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 09:03    Post subject: efi files or folders?  

Hi Barry,

please assist;

the 4install script to sdc usb started ok,
then stopped here as copy/pasted:

Creating 512MB FAT-32 first partition...

Sorry, syslinux version 6.x is required. Or at least these folders from 6.x:
/usr/lib/syslinux/efi64
/usr/lib/syslinux/efi32

Am using host Win7 64-bit laptop, with usb host linux Quirky 6.1.4

Are these above items required as extras and from where
do I get them?
Where have I gone wrong?
Thanks, regards.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 10:03    Post subject:  

Can anyone produce the latest uGet PET for Xerus?

@BarryK, what is required to have Puppy/Quirky listed here

Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 10:28    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
Can anyone produce the latest uGet PET for Xerus?
Thansk in advance.

you can use ubuntu packages

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 13:15    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
Can anyone produce the latest uGet PET for Xerus?

@BarryK, what is required to have Puppy/Quirky listed here

Thanks in advance.


you can find it here :
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/uget/download

and for other programs , here is the search page :
http://packages.ubuntu.com/

".deb" packages can be easily installed with a simple click.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 14:24    Post subject:  

1.
BarryK wrote:
I have never tried ISObooter, so you will have to try Quirky ISO with it and report back.

I tried xerus64-8.0.iso file with ISObooter.
It began booting OK, but gave Error 15: File not found. Sad
ISObooter is normally the easiest/safest method I can think to use to try various Puppies booting from a Flash Drive.
Using dd previously was really easy, but it lost me all of the content on 1 of my external HDD's [including about 99% of (the PC copies of) my family photographs...still have the paper originals].
Because...I made a silly simple error, by writing the image to the wrong drive.
recovered the photos using "Photorec", but lost all the info by losing the filenames and folder hierarchy that described where/when/who.

2.
BarryK wrote:
I found this forum thread:

Yes, I am well acquainted with that thread, and now fairly comfortable using ISObooter.
I undid all done to try xerus64-8.0.iso with ISObooter.
Now back to:
gparted-live-0.24.0-2-i686-pae.iso
LxPupSc-16.03.1.iso
slacko-6.3.0.iso
tahrNOP-2a_6.0.2.iso

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 14:25    Post subject: Now fully installed  

Previous reported difficulty overcome.
Full install to usb now working normally
via the .iso install phase on a different usb.

I had to bypass the gunzip command line though
as it caused failure to start the script process.
So went directly to the chmod 755 line instead.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 17:07    Post subject: Bugs and pristine report  

Firstly, THANKS BarryK for what you have done for us. Running LIVE from USB on a desktop Intel PC. DVD is created and it will be the next LIVE test. Last will be a Full approach and tests on a USB. Following all of this, I am hopeful to test @Ted Dog's approach to booting ISOs directly without conversion unto DVD/USB.

2 Problems in FirstRUN
FirstRUN is a clever and important utility in Puppy Linux. For every user, it intends to clearly allow any user to set their system's beginnings for their specific localization needs on their home LANs. It has been an absolute joy in its straight-forward, clearly laid foundation, in its past.

The mass majority of PUP users have their PCs wired to their home LANs. Simple to connect the wire, the PC sees and get its IP address from local router in the security of one's home network. And, away everyone goes to their work efforts on the PC.

But, there is a change in FirstRUN which, unintentionally is a source for confusion as it changes how it used to work for traditional PUP users and would confuse inexperienced Linux users.

In the past, PUP PCs with wired connections boot onto their LAN and acquire their IP addresses just prior to desktop emergence of FirstRUN. Use fills-in its form and hits the enter key and away it goes setting the localization as user has told.

Today, the important component, IP address is missing by the time the boot emerges. If you are a user, traditional or not, you expect that FirstRUN will carry out ALL of your orders. Without an IP address, there is NO WAY that the option in FirstRUN for "Set time/date from the Internet" is going to work.

This, above description, is one of 2 bugs in the logic of the new FirstRUN.


The 2nd bug is that if anyone fills in FirstRUN to their liking, in the past, FirstRUN would remember ALL settings so that if the user revisits FirstRUN, they will see all answers from their last use of FirstRUN. Today, that is not the case as the Firewall checkbox is alway "checked" even though you had unchecked it in FirstRUN's prior use. Thus, if overlooked, as one knew they had unchecked it earlier, it is now on and can be a source of confusion for the user knew he turned it off.

Firewall election, correctly, should be a user choice.
The correct implementation would be to allow all user setting to remain until he either returns or changes that somewhere else in the system.

Is there any chance that this could be resolved thru the Service Management component of Xerus?

The following is a minimal system report immediately after Pristine boot and LAN start to post to this thread via SeaMonkey.
Code:
# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       3077192    1215724    1861468     473324      90260     758224
-/+ buffers/cache:     367240    2709952
Swap:      4189180          0    4189180

# uname -a
Linux Xerus-Helen 4.4.7 #1 SMP Wed Apr 20 17:09:25 GMT-8 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


So far the system is not erratic and very stable in its performance...FAST!

2nd Issue
On 1st Shutdown from a Live Pristine boot's session, should the user be presented with a selection to save-session? This just immediately shutdown with no request to desktop for the saving option.

Here to help

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 19:48    Post subject: Booted the same LiveUSB on Touch non-UEFI laptop  

Issues on a HP Touch Laptop
  • Touch tracking is way off. (Not sure if that is tackled in this version 8 of Quirky)

  • Closing lid does not sent laptop to suspend

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 20:50    Post subject: Booted the same LiveUSB on X2 PC  

Booted the LiveUSB on a 3rd system. This being an X2.
Code:
# uname -a
Linux Xerus-AcerX2 4.4.7 #1 SMP Wed Apr 20 17:09:25 GMT-8 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       4823776    1103740    3720036     343960      99168     662120
-/+ buffers/cache:     342452    4481324
Swap:      4235672          0    423567


USB stick shown from desktop utilities point of view. My 1st time looking over format use on this Xerus 8 version.
    GParted cannot identify the 2nd physical partition and the USB is formated MSDOS. UEFI systems can use MSDOS disc, but are the guidelines GPT?


    The materials on the USB media is functional, but logically reversed. (Could be an oversight.)


Performance
All 3 systems, including this PC, perform responsibly in desktop use thus far. There are no crashes in system's use.

I will leave this up for a day taking the time to exercise some of the built-in services. Although the WOOFCE version has resolved this, this screen does not reflect the current desktop settings.


Blue-Tooth
Blue-tooth on taskbar. I dont have a BT adapter in any of the systems tested. Should the icon be present on the desktop if no adapter discovered in the system?

Hope this is helpful

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2016, 22:14    Post subject:  

BarryK:

I downloaded the WoofQ you recently uploaded and during the ./0setup, I received a failed to download (aborted) when the script attempted to download from:

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xeniel-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.xz

Note: Didn't use the Bones version.

Some packages that I got working.... (Note: Files are large except YAD)...

Imagemagick and dependencies:

https://app.box.com/s/gi9rxihbfnss8kf65hljwfkbf197uzq6

PDFTK and dependencies:

https://app.box.com/s/ly7bxl7yrvpev9dbpuat5ndfbf6bnzkv

YAD Yet Another Dialog 35.0

https://app.box.com/s/cueiuyvjig5ohblux44j63m377ezovrk

IMPORTANT: Some of these pets are real big. After installed, they still take a few minutes before the package starts working. I thought Imagemagick wasn't working; a minute or so later... bingo...

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Trying to boot from a manual frugal install from iso files yields a kernel panic!
What should the kernel arguments look like? ... the same as for the iso?
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 04:52    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
... I received a failed to download (aborted) when the script attempted to download from:

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xeniel-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.xz
I think, you (or the script) misspelled the link - it should read xenial, not xeniel and Packages.gz, not Packages.xz

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 06:00    Post subject:  

stemsee wrote:
Trying to boot from a manual frugal install from iso files yields a kernel panic!
What should the kernel arguments look like? ... the same as for the iso?

Code:
install_specs=UUID=7093-9400:vfat:xerus

You need to add the "install_specs" argument for frugal install.
The "7093-9400" is my disk's partition id, you can check the id with "blkid" command. The vfat is the file system type. The "xerus" is my quirky Xerus 8.0 install folder name.
If you haven't the "install_specs" argument, the "init" can find the "q.sfs" automatic, but you need the "Q_ID" file on your install folder. The content of the "Q_ID" is "201604210401".

Thanks Barry keep the "frugal install" feature in Quirky Xerus 8.0. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 06:08    Post subject: quirky 8
Subject description: 32 bit quirky 8 xerus
 

Is it possible to build a 32 bit quirky xerus. Can anyone direct me to a site for instructions, Thank you.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 09:30    Post subject: Screenshot  

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 09:40    Post subject: Re: efi files or folders?  

Rodney Byne wrote:
Hi Barry,

please assist;

the 4install script to sdc usb started ok,
then stopped here as copy/pasted:

Creating 512MB FAT-32 first partition...

Sorry, syslinux version 6.x is required. Or at least these folders from 6.x:
/usr/lib/syslinux/efi64
/usr/lib/syslinux/efi32

Am using host Win7 64-bit laptop, with usb host linux Quirky 6.1.4

Are these above items required as extras and from where
do I get them?
Where have I gone wrong?
Thanks, regards.


That Quirky is a bit old. But, there is a PET that should have what you need:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/packages/pet_packages-common/syslinux6_modules_efi-6.0.3.pet

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 09:43    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

Did the alternative install to a 16gb SD card, pc is an emachines
laptop.

Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Memory 1794MB (94MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Xerus64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Fri Apr 22 09:30:38 2016
Display
Resolution 1280x800 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Input Devices
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
Logitech USB Receiver
Logitech USB Receiver
SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
Power Button
Lid Switch
Sleep Button
Power Button
Video Bus
Crystal Eye webcam
PC Speaker
HDA Digital PCBeep
HDA ATI SB Mic
HDA ATI SB Headphone
Acer BMA150 accelerometer
Printers (CUPS)
CUPS-PDF Default
SCSI Disks
ATA ST9160310AS
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7590S
Generic STORAGE DEVICE
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 4.4.7 (x86_64)
Version #1 SMP Wed Apr 20 17:09:25 GMT-8 2016
C Library Unknown
Distribution Quirky Xerus64
OpenGL
Vendor X.Org R300 Project
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
Version 2.1 Mesa 11.2.0
Direct Rendering Y_es

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 09:48    Post subject: Re: Bugs and pristine report  

gcmartin wrote:
2nd Issue
On 1st Shutdown from a Live Pristine boot's session, should the user be presented with a selection to save-session? This just immediately shutdown with no request to desktop for the saving option.


That's right, the "important info" window asks you to click the "save" icon on the desktop.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 09:52    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
BarryK:

I downloaded the WoofQ you recently uploaded and during the ./0setup, I received a failed to download (aborted) when the script attempted to download from:

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xeniel-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.xz

Note: Didn't use the Bones version.


That's because Ubuntu 16.04 has just been released, there are no updates.
At that point of the 0setup script, you have to choose "no", that is, do not download updates.
I know that just pressing the ENTER key chooses the updates, maybe I should reverse that logic.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 09:57    Post subject:  

stemsee wrote:
Trying to boot from a manual frugal install from iso files yields a kernel panic!
What should the kernel arguments look like? ... the same as for the iso?


I don't know what you have done for "a manual frugal install".

Why not use the Quirky Installer? -- there is an icon on the desktop, also it is in the Setup menu -- you can choose frugal install to a partition.

My guess is that your manual install left out the "Q_ID" file. Use the Quirky Installer and you will see what that is.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 09:59    Post subject:  

anikin wrote:
slavvo67 wrote:
... I received a failed to download (aborted) when the script attempted to download from:

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xeniel-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.xz
I think, you (or the script) misspelled the link - it should read xenial, not xeniel and Packages.gz, not Packages.xz

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz


The Ubuntu repository has both Packages.gz and Packages.xz.
Up until recently, They had Packages.bz2 but dropped that for .xz

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 10:01    Post subject:  

CHLee wrote:
stemsee wrote:
Trying to boot from a manual frugal install from iso files yields a kernel panic!
What should the kernel arguments look like? ... the same as for the iso?

Code:
install_specs=UUID=7093-9400:vfat:xerus

You need to add the "install_specs" argument for frugal install.
The "7093-9400" is my disk's partition id, you can check the id with "blkid" command. The vfat is the file system type. The "xerus" is my quirky Xerus 8.0 install folder name.
If you haven't the "install_specs" argument, the "init" can find the "q.sfs" automatic, but you need the "Q_ID" file on your install folder. The content of the "Q_ID" is "201604210401".

Thanks Barry keep the "frugal install" feature in Quirky Xerus 8.0. Thanks.
C.H. Lee


Thanks, that's a more complete reply!

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 10:13    Post subject: Re: quirky 8
Subject description: 32 bit quirky 8 xerus
 

ckl8r wrote:
Is it possible to build a 32 bit quirky xerus. Can anyone direct me to a site for instructions, Thank you.


You can download woofQ and create a 32-bit Xerus Quirky.

Most of it will build, however, I used some 64-bit PETs compiled explicitly for Quirky Xerus:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/packages/pet_packages-xerus/

...some of those, you can use the Ubuntu DEBs instead. To get going, you could find a 32-bit kernel pet. seamonkey, ditto.

I think that I also used some PETs from the 64-bit Quirky Werewolf.

Basically, in woofQ, you will need to copy
woof-project/quirky/woof-distro/amd64/ubuntu/xerus
to:
woof-project/quirky/woof-distro/x86/ubuntu/

...then make changes to the package-list in file DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS_ubuntu_xenial, and change the "amd64" URL paths in files DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS_ubuntu_xenial and DISTRO_PET_REPOS.

...there are older 32-bit build files there as a guide.

WoofQ blog post:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00345

EDIT:
I don't want to overload you with information, or scare you off using woofQ!
But, in the file DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS_ubuntu_xenial, if you take seamonkey as an example:

yes|seamonkey||exe,dev,doc>null,nls>null|pet:xerus|

As you don't have a 32-bit SeaMonkey compiled explicitly for Xerus, just remove the "xerus" and the script '2createpackages' in woofQ will try and find the closest match 32-bit pet:

yes|seamonkey||exe,dev,doc>null,nls>null|pet:|

If you wanted to specify an Ubuntu DEB for SeaMonkey -- well, there isn't one, but if you did, and assuming the DEB is named 'seamonkey_<version>.deb, change to this:

yes|seamonkey|seamonkey|exe,dev,doc>null,nls>null||

...there is a mini-readme on the format at the top of file DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS_ubuntu_xenial

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 10:37    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
anikin wrote:
slavvo67 wrote:
... I received a failed to download (aborted) when the script attempted to download from:

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xeniel-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.xz
I think, you (or the script) misspelled the link - it should read xenial, not xeniel and Packages.gz, not Packages.xz

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz


The Ubuntu repository has both Packages.gz and Packages.xz.
Up until recently, They had Packages.bz2 but dropped that for .xz


Hmmm, yes, that "xenial-updates" path does exist, but don't use it!!!!
Note that the Packages.gz is very old, dated 2016-02-03
It is not an update.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 11:58    Post subject:  

I can't seem to get FreeOffice working in this version of Quirky.

The existing .pet for 2012 FreeOffice only work on older versions of Quirky or Puppy. I think they only work on versions that have 32-bit compatibility. No luck installing the 2016 .deb version either - I am always missing some dependencies.

Did anyone else try installing SoftMaker FreeOffice?
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 13:08    Post subject: QPM problem surfaces when update button is used  

Thanks Barry for guidance. I read everything prior, available. But, never read that screen (RTFM vs RTF-screens).

Anyone use QPM? Did you run the "Configure + Update Button feature"? What was your outcome?

Mine is a reduction in the Repo list on the main QPM screen.

I am Rebooting the USB pristine to follow the overlooked screen; this time to follow screen instructions and not "update" QPM as it damages the QPM use at this time.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 13:32    Post subject:  

I found that additional repositories sometimes pop up, such as:

ubuntu-xenial-mainpre

This prevents the main repositories from showing up.

You need to delete the repositories that end with "pre". You can do this by going to /root/.packages/ then deleting the files that end with "pre".
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 13:37    Post subject:  

As for the FreeOffice, I think I've found the problem.

The .deb files have i386 architecture and therefore need the 64-bit libraries to function properly. Since Quirky Xerus is am64 architecture and does not have i386 compatibility, I won't be able to install the program.

I'll have to wait until FreeOffice comes out with a native 64-bit version. Full 32-bit compatibility is probably beyond the scope of Quirky Xerus.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 13:56    Post subject: Service Management in Xerus-V8  

Very interesting Service Management approach presented by @ETP, here on his Quirky distro. It provides service alerts for user awareness and decision. IIRC his versions for service approach go back 4 years, so its a mature strategy.

A developer would have to stage the service for their distro while the subsystem would provide user knowledge of such.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 14:39    Post subject:  

DanielSong39 wrote:
As for the FreeOffice, I think I've found the problem.

The .deb files have i386 architecture and therefore need the 64-bit libraries to function properly. Since Quirky Xerus is am64 architecture and does not have i386 compatibility, I won't be able to install the program.

I'll have to wait until FreeOffice comes out with a native 64-bit version. Full 32-bit compatibility is probably beyond the scope of Quirky Xerus.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


Libre Office is available in QPM if that's any help to you'
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 14:55    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final feedback  

All I can say, Mr. Barry Sir Puppy Knight Very Happy , damn, what a joy (brings back memories when I first discovered you & linux puppy 7-8 year ago and never looked back to Windows or anything). Anyhow, I've tried Quirky Xerus on all five on my home BIOS systems (even the slow Atom laptop), via installing Quirkly to both USB and SD cards using Xerus itself (booting an a Xerus CD). Everything just boots up incredibly quickly and once up, everything runs fantastic. Earlier today I even tried to throw the kitchen sink test at on one of the Quirky 16GB SDHC cards I made, and installed Firefox, Palemoon and Chrome (all installin' went so easy it made my head spin----damn I love deb installing!!!!), and then opened Seamonkey, Chrome and Palemoon at the same time, had them doing different things on the web, then started opening various Quirky programs and I still couldn't get Xerus to hiccup and/or stutter. So, in my opinion, after a long, long wait (though to be fair I've been zooming on Werewolf for awhile now)....but after a long wait, and using Tahr64Pup, Slacko64 6.3.0 for so long, even had fun with Fatdogs & DebianPup versions, my main go to Puppy is back to being yours. All I can say is thank thank you so much!


P.S. Kind of miss the Werwolf deep green background screen with that claw. Looking at this Xerus backdrop, I am giving it a try for awhile to see if it grows on me. Otherwise, the Werewolf screen is coming back Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 16:06    Post subject: Drive icons  

Barry,
after bootup, drive icons sdb1 & sdb2 exactly overlap sda1 & sda2.
They should be shown separated in a line.
When I manually separate them and restart x server,
they return to the overlapped state again.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 17:23    Post subject:  

I did a manual frugal install like this.

1) Download xerus64-8.0.iso
2) In term create dir on hdd
Code:
mkdir /mnt/sda3/xerus

3) mount iso (in puppy click on xerus.iso or use filemnt)
4) copy from iso mount dir initrd.q and vmlinuz and q.sfs
5) in term do:
Code:
echo '"201604210401"
' > /mnt/sda3/xerus/Q_ID


6) in terminl type
Code:
blkid | grep --invert-match -e 'sr0' -e 'sr1' -e 'loop'
and get partition uuid and filesystem (ext2/3/4 vfat ntfs)

7) edit menu.lst, add
title Xerus (sda3/xerus)
uuid e97ca599-8f2a-410b-b668-03d43fe71a54
kernel /xerus/vmlinuz install_specs=UUID=e97ca599-8f2a-410b-b668-03d43fe71a54:ext4:xerus
initrd /xerus/initrd.q

Cool reboot

Edit: thanks BK

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 19:28    Post subject:  

Maybe someone can double-check me but I think the usfs.xz install does not offer the option to boot UEFI.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 19:35    Post subject: Re: QPM problem surfaces when update button is used  

gcmartin wrote:
Thanks Barry for guidance. I read everything prior, available. But, never read that screen (RTFM vs RTF-screens).

Anyone use QPM? Did you run the "Configure + Update Button feature"? What was your outcome?

Mine is a reduction in the Repo list on the main QPM screen.

I am Rebooting the USB pristine to follow the overlooked screen; this time to follow screen instructions and not "update" QPM as it damages the QPM use at this time.


Yes, I posted about that earlier. Ubuntu's xenial-updates repository is currently misconfigured. It is Ubuntu's fault basically, however, they should be fixing it very soon, as now 16.04 is released, their developers will start submitting update DEBs.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 19:43    Post subject:  

DanielSong39 wrote:
I found that additional repositories sometimes pop up, such as:

ubuntu-xenial-mainpre

This prevents the main repositories from showing up.

You need to delete the repositories that end with "pre". You can do this by going to /root/.packages/ then deleting the files that end with "pre".


How could you be getting those "pre" files?

I just checked to be certain, they aren't in the ISO nor the xerus-8.0.usfs.xz file.

It seems that you ran the database update option in the QPM setup, and that got broken.

It seems, that is because you chose the option to download the ubuntu-updates repository.

As I posted earlier, DON'T.

It is broken. There aren't any updates yet, Ubuntu 16.04 has only just been released, and I have the latest database in QX8.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 19:48    Post subject:  

DanielSong39 wrote:
As for the FreeOffice, I think I've found the problem.

The .deb files have i386 architecture and therefore need the 64-bit libraries to function properly. Since Quirky Xerus is am64 architecture and does not have i386 compatibility, I won't be able to install the program.

I'll have to wait until FreeOffice comes out with a native 64-bit version. Full 32-bit compatibility is probably beyond the scope of Quirky Xerus.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


Ubuntu has 32-bit compatibility DEBs, so FreeOffice should work.
However, as FreeOffice is not provided as a DEB by Ubuntu, there is no list of exactly what DEBs are needed -- that is the tricky bit.

Run QPM (Package Manager), type "32-bit" in the search box, hit "Go" button, choose to search all the repos, and it will come up with some DEBs. Maybe that's enough.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 20:01    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final feedback  

Belham wrote:
P.S. Kind of miss the Werwolf deep green background screen with that claw. Looking at this Xerus backdrop, I am giving it a try for awhile to see if it grows on me. Otherwise, the Werewolf screen is coming back Very Happy


Ha ha, yeah, my themes tend to cause divided opinions. Some people posted, re Werewolf green theme, that they couldn't change to something else quick enough.

Now, this Xerus theme is, how shall I say, "strong". That wallpaper is a bit overpowering.
No one has commented yet, but I notice from posted snapshots that plenty of users have changed to something else!

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 20:07    Post subject: Re: Drive icons  

Rodney Byne wrote:
Barry,
after bootup, drive icons sdb1 & sdb2 exactly overlap sda1 & sda2.
They should be shown separated in a line.
When I manually separate them and restart x server,
they return to the overlapped state again.
Any ideas?
Thanks.


I don't know why some people get this.

Have you been reconfiguring ROX-Filer?
...that can be done by right-click on any desktop icon, choose "ROX-Filer", then "Options...". If someone goes in there and changes how the desktop icons are aligned, that can cause the problem.

Or, did you manually move any of the desktop drive icons? That could be the cause also.
...if that is the case, get them to realign, go into
Menu -> System -> Puppy Event Manager
then click on the "Desktop icons" tag, then tick the box to realign the icons, click OK then restart X.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 20:10    Post subject:  

stemsee wrote:
I did a manual frugal install like this.

1) Download xerus.iso
2) Create dir on hdd 'mkdir /mnt/sda3/xerus'
3) mount iso (in puppy click on xerus.iso or use filemnt)
4) copy from iso mount dir initrd.q and vmlinuz
5) in term do:
echo '"201604210401"
' > /mnt/sda3/xerus/Q_ID

6) in terminl type 'blkid' and get partition uuid and filesystem (ext2/3/4 vfat ntfs)

7) edit menu.lst, add
title Xerus (sda3/xerus)
uuid e97ca599-8f2a-410b-b668-03d43fe71a54
kernel /xerus/vmlinuz install_specs=UUID=e97ca599-8f2a-410b-b668-03d43fe71a54:ext4:xerus
initrd /xerus/initrd.q

Cool reboot


And copy q.sfs from the iso.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 20:12    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
Maybe someone can double-check me but I think the usfs.xz install does not offer the option to boot UEFI.

Slavvo67


You need to run the install script, '4install-quirky-to-drive-gpt', if you look at that script, it supports BIOS and UEFI booting.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 21:42    Post subject:  

I'd like to ask a newbie question.

I noticed that the font color for the icons are yellow for this version. I'd like to change the font color for the icons to black. How can I do this?
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 22:14    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
DanielSong39 wrote:
As for the FreeOffice, I think I've found the problem.

The .deb files have i386 architecture and therefore need the 64-bit libraries to function properly. Since Quirky Xerus is am64 architecture and does not have i386 compatibility, I won't be able to install the program.

I'll have to wait until FreeOffice comes out with a native 64-bit version. Full 32-bit compatibility is probably beyond the scope of Quirky Xerus.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


Ubuntu has 32-bit compatibility DEBs, so FreeOffice should work.
However, as FreeOffice is not provided as a DEB by Ubuntu, there is no list of exactly what DEBs are needed -- that is the tricky bit.

Run QPM (Package Manager), type "32-bit" in the search box, hit "Go" button, choose to search all the repos, and it will come up with some DEBs. Maybe that's enough.


Thank you for your input. I have managed to install FreeOffice but it won't run. Here is what I did:

# dpkg --add-architecture i386
# dpkg -i softmaker-freeoffice-2016_756-01_i386.deb

This is what I ran into:

dpkg: dependency problems prevent conficuration of softmaker-freeoffice-2016:i386

softmaker-freeoffice-2016:i386 depends on libc6 (>= 2.11.1).
... depends on libx11-6.
... libxmu6.
... libxext6.
... libidn11.
... libxrender1.
... libxrandr2.
... libstdc++6.
... libgl1-mesa-glx.

dpkg: error processing package softmaker-freeoffice-2016:i386 (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
softmaker-freeoffice-2016:i386

Here is my take:

I double checked and found that all the "missing" packages have already been installed. Thus there might be something else going on...

In the meantime I'll try the .pet file for the 2012 freeoffice and see if it works. I've already installed all available 32-bit compatible libraries, so keeping my fingers crossed.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 22:21    Post subject:  

DanielSong39 wrote:
I'd like to ask a newbie question.

I noticed that the font color for the icons are yellow for this version. I'd like to change the font color for the icons to black. How can I do this?


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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 22:23    Post subject:  

Nope, FreeOffice simply doesn't work in this environment. The .pet installed 2012 FreeOffice but it wouldn't run. Fortunately, I can open all my files with other applications, so no big loss.

Apparently Softmaker is working on a version of FreeOffice that is not dependent on 32-bit libraries. Keeping my fingers crossed.

In the meantime, if anyone gets it working on this version of Quirky, please let me know.
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...if you take seamonkey as an example...
Just a heads-up on seamonkey: I decided to be recklessly daring and compile the current trunk version, 2.45a1, with a USE_FC_FREETYPE=1 directive and the --enable-system-cairo configure switch. Which for at least a year now has been a reliable way to make seamonkey crash. This time, at long last, seamonkey with system cairo and freetype is dead stable. I can upload, download, and watch videos in pepperflash all day while enjoying infinality font rendering in webpages. This is on Fedora-23. Haven't tried compiling it on Puppy/Quirky/DDog yet, I hope YM won't V.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Apr 2016, 02:39    Post subject:  

I wrote that the 1600x??? default res. is too small for my screen & eyes. Changing to 1280x??? is fine but the tray is half obscured below the screen. Used to be able to slide the edges but seems that I need to learn a new trick. Appreciate advice, please.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Apr 2016, 05:20    Post subject: QX8
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Sage wrote:
I wrote that the 1600x??? default res. is too small for my screen & eyes. Changing to 1280x??? is fine but the tray is half obscured below the screen. Used to be able to slide the edges but seems that I need to learn a new trick. Appreciate advice, please.

Hi Sage,

It would help to know your actual monitor size but you probably need to follow this "How To":
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81413

(There is no need to install the fontwizard.pet as it is already present on the "Desktop" menu.) Cool

EDIT: (A bit later)
There is nothing like a working example, so:
QX8 already contains the excellent Moka icon theme & the Black-vg JWM theme.
The included Open Sans Semi-Bold font is also very legible.
I would recommend using it both in Rox (Start with 12 point) and in the gtk theme
starting with 11 point.
Here is a shot of that on a 23inch LCD with a dark bland background.

Full sized screen-shot here: (Press F11 to toggle into full screen then click on link)
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B_iVVJCd9q09cWd6aDg0R09NeGc

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Apr 2016, 05:26    Post subject:  

DanielSong39 wrote:
I'd like to ask a newbie question.

I noticed that the font color for the icons are yellow for this version. I'd like to change the font color for the icons to black. How can I do this?


Right-click on any desktop icon and choose to configure ROX-Filer.

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Apr 2016, 05:31    Post subject:  

I fixed the scanning of eMMC memory at bootup of the ISO.

See my blog post:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00346

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Apr 2016, 06:22    Post subject: Baytrail
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BarryK wrote:
slavvo67 wrote:
Maybe someone can double-check me but I think the usfs.xz install does not offer the option to boot UEFI.

Slavvo67


You need to run the install script, '4install-quirky-to-drive-gpt', if you look at that script, it supports BIOS and UEFI booting.


Barry, I appreciate the new Quirky & that you wish to pass on doing a 32-bit version, so
this plea is as much to the other gurus in the community.

I have a Win10 cheap 2-in-1 that is based on a Z3735 Baytrail Atom SoC -- sort of a
poor man's Ausus T205, sold here in the USA by Walmart as the RCA Cambio.

It has a bastardized 32-bit UEFI for silly reasons beyond the scope of this thread.
I have gotten the installation ISO or images to such as Android -x86 and Ubuntu
15.10 to boot. But, have been waiting for a 4.4 kernel to try the hacks
needed for an install. I am very afraid of bricking this toy.

The xz image I installed on a 16BG USB3 flash drive boots on a legacy
Celeron 460 desktop. But, all I can get to on the Cambio is a grub> prompt.
Now what? I would really appreciate suggestions and advice (or even
better a bootable image for the boot-impaired Baytrail toys).
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Apr 2016, 09:19    Post subject: Re: Baytrail
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T-Biscuit wrote:
BarryK wrote:
slavvo67 wrote:
Maybe someone can double-check me but I think the usfs.xz install does not offer the option to boot UEFI.

Slavvo67


You need to run the install script, '4install-quirky-to-drive-gpt', if you look at that script, it supports BIOS and UEFI booting.


Barry, I appreciate the new Quirky & that you wish to pass on doing a 32-bit version, so
this plea is as much to the other gurus in the community.

I have a Win10 cheap 2-in-1 that is based on a Z3735 Baytrail Atom SoC -- sort of a
poor man's Ausus T205, sold here in the USA by Walmart as the RCA Cambio.

It has a bastardized 32-bit UEFI for silly reasons beyond the scope of this thread.
I have gotten the installation ISO or images to such as Android -x86 and Ubuntu
15.10 to boot. But, have been waiting for a 4.4 kernel to try the hacks
needed for an install. I am very afraid of bricking this toy.

The xz image I installed on a 16BG USB3 flash drive boots on a legacy
Celeron 460 desktop. But, all I can get to on the Cambio is a grub> prompt.
Now what? I would really appreciate suggestions and advice (or even
better a bootable image for the boot-impaired Baytrail toys).


Oh, I have only developed for 64-bit UEFI.
I thought that 32-bit UEFI is a rarity.

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Apr 2016, 09:21    Post subject:  

I have compiled kernel 4.4.8:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00348

It will be in the next release.

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Apr 2016, 10:36    Post subject:  

Quote:
It would help to know your actual monitor size but you probably need to follow this "How To":
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81413

Thanks ETP. I am using an HannsG 19"-wide lcd/led(?) with a native of 1380x??? I think. I can see the 1600 OK, and resize it to 1280x??? and still work with those fonts/point sizes/icons/etc. All I want to do is raised the tray a tad -it would be easy in Xfce but just lack the knowledge on this aspect.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Apr 2016, 12:08    Post subject:  

Hi Sage,

First port of call is "JWM Window Manager Settings" on the Desktop menu.
That will open the "JWM Configuration Manager" where you then select "Tray management".
The "Tray Configuration Options" menu will then open where you should select the "Tray Height Option"
which will probably be set to NORMAL. Select another height then restart X but be aware that the
text below the drive icons may slip below the task bar.
That is a long standing issue in JWM but was fixed in WoofCE based Pups with a utility to adjust the
spacing between the drive icons and the edge of the screen.

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Apr 2016, 12:24    Post subject:  

Thanks again, E. all sounds very reasonable - will try it tomorrow if I get a chance. Can't think why BK chose the default with so many ageing camp followers?!
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This draws attention, indirectly, to the differences of subsystems one would get from a WOOFQ and what is gotten from a WOOFCE. Both, will generate a distro, but slight differences in utility availability and approaches.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Apr 2016, 14:09    Post subject: My experience with Xerus 8.0
Subject description: Some issues
 

Hi all, I tried Xerus-8.0 on an Asus X555LB, frugally installed on a 16GB SanDisk Cruzer Blade 2.0 usb stick.
Xerus does not maintain the configuration of my sound card, I have to reconfigure it every time (in Werewolf I did not have this issue).

Code:
Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller [8086:160c] (rev 09)
• Kernel Driver: snd_hda_intel
--
Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio Controller [8086:9ca0] (rev 03)
• Kernel Driver: snd_hda_intel
• Memory Used: 19.63 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/4.4.7/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
• Description: Intel HDA driver

Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller [8086:160c] (rev 09)
• Kernel Driver: snd_hda_intel
--
Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio Controller [8086:9ca0] (rev 03)
• Kernel Driver: snd_hda_intel
• Memory Used: 19.63 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/4.4.7/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
• Description: Intel HDA driver

The video card is hybrid and if I use the Nouveau drivers the system hangs (was the same in Werewolf).

Code:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics
   Flags: bus master, fast device select, latency 0
   Interrupt Request (IRQ): 45
   Memory at f5000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
   Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
   I/O ports at f000 [size=64]
   Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled]
   Capabilities: [90] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
   Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2
   Capabilities: [a4] PCI Advanced Features
   Kernel driver in use: i915
   Kernel modules: i915

3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 940M] (rev a2)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1a6d
   Flags: bus master, fast device select, latency 0
   Memory at f6000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
   Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
   Memory at f0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
   I/O ports at d000 [size=128]
   Expansion ROM at f7000000 [disabled] [size=512K]
   Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
   Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
   Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
   Kernel modules: nouveau

I hope the situation will be better with the 4.4.8 kernel

The battery icon in the tray does not update I must restart X to update it but then it stops again (in Werewolf worked well).

Thanks. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Apr 2016, 16:02    Post subject: Re: Baytrail
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BarryK wrote:
Oh, I have only developed for 64-bit UEFI.
I thought that 32-bit UEFI is a rarity.


I hear it can be costly to pay the UEFI tax. 32 bit UEFI may be unique to the Z3735 shipped with Win10 (hence no CSM). It may be a rarity in the sense that the number of these baytrail "value" systems may be statistically small and almost surely insignificant to OEM profits. I heard that the reason for the 32b boot was because Microsoft did not have the 64 bit drivers ready in time. That was later fixed but too late -- the ship has sailed on to Cherrytrail. I have the feeling that there is no incentive for the makers to update their firmware -- maybe even can't if it forces a change from 32 bit Windows to 64 bit.

I am glad you are doing what you are doing. I'll live with my buyer's remorse for the RCA I bought for a lot less than I spent on my first computer (the US version of the ZX81) and next time will be sure to return it immediately if it isn't compatible with your latest.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 03:14    Post subject:  

Seems to be an undercurrent desire for 32bit? Silent majority? Makes sense for the billions of perfectly good machines languishing in cupboards, under beds, in skips/dumpsters. With the range of experts signing in here, all the major peripherals issues are solved. Compact distros are perfect for installation on old HDs, too.
BK tells he has no interest in 32bit any more, but bet there's gurus in this Forum capable of undertaking the challenge? Let's not follow the Macro$haft-it philosophy...
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 03:24    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

Hi Barry,

RE: kernel 4.4.8 upgrade pet & Aaaaarrgh!
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00349

I tried that last night and also ran into problems. The original install had been to a 16GB
USB2 stick using the "Alternative installation technique:" and that was running fine.

Having imaged that stick with Win32diskimager I then wrote that image to a 32GB USB3 stick in order
to speed things up and to test the kernel upgrade. Having installed the pet I copied the new vmlinuz
over the original on the first partition before rebooting. The boot was rather slow so I headed straight
for the error logs.

The problems seem to stem from the fact that /lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin, is just a zero length file
when it should be populated.
I do not know whether that is a failure in the Version Update process or some omission in the pet.
Hope this clue helps.

Code:
VERSION UPDATE
mv: cannot stat '/etc/modules/firmware.dep': No such file or directory
LOAD KERNEL MODULES
modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:514 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin'
LOAD SWAP
GPT PMBR size mismatch (30529535 != 60062499) will be corrected by w(rite).
MISC. SYSTEM SETUP
USER SELECTED MODULES
SETUP SERVICES
modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:514 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin'
rmmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:514 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin'
RECOGNISE MEDIA DEVICES
ln: failed to create symbolic link '/dev/rtc': File exists
Waiting for interfaces to initialize...
configuring network interface eth0
cheching if interface eth0 is alive...MISC. DESKTOP STUFF
PERSONAL BOOT SCRIPT
/etc/init.d/00sys_logger
/etc/init.d/10alsa
modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:514 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin'
modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:514 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin'
modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:514 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin'
yes
configuring interface eth0 with static ip...
Default route set through 192.168.1.1.
Success!
/etc/init.d/cups
cups: started scheduler.
/etc/init.d/messagebus
Starting system message bus:  /usr/bin/dbus-uuidgen --ensure ; /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
/etc/init.d/rc.pcmcia
/etc/init.d/rc.samba
Starting Samba:  /usr/sbin/smbd -D
                 /usr/sbin/nmbd -D
/etc/init.d/rc.umntshares
ok
/etc/init.d/usb-modeswitch
Starting Bluetooth daemon bluetoothd...
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 05:06    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

ETP wrote:
Hi Barry,

RE: kernel 4.4.8 upgrade pet & Aaaaarrgh!
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00349

I tried that last night and also ran into problems. The original install had been to a 16GB
USB2 stick using the "Alternative installation technique:" and that was running fine.

Having imaged that stick with Win32diskimager I then wrote that image to a 32GB USB3 stick in order
to speed things up and to test the kernel upgrade. Having installed the pet I copied the new vmlinuz
over the original on the first partition before rebooting. The boot was rather slow so I headed straight
for the error logs.

The problems seem to stem from the fact that /lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin, is just a zero length file
when it should be populated.
I do not know whether that is a failure in the Version Update process or some omission in the pet.
Hope this clue helps.

Code:
VERSION UPDATE
mv: cannot stat '/etc/modules/firmware.dep': No such file or directory
LOAD KERNEL MODULES
modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:514 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin'
LOAD SWAP
GPT PMBR size mismatch (30529535 != 60062499) will be corrected by w(rite).
MISC. SYSTEM SETUP
USER SELECTED MODULES
SETUP SERVICES
modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:514 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin'
rmmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:514 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin'
RECOGNISE MEDIA DEVICES
ln: failed to create symbolic link '/dev/rtc': File exists
Waiting for interfaces to initialize...
configuring network interface eth0
cheching if interface eth0 is alive...MISC. DESKTOP STUFF
PERSONAL BOOT SCRIPT
/etc/init.d/00sys_logger
/etc/init.d/10alsa
modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:514 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin'
modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:514 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin'
modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:514 lookup_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/4.4.8/modules.builtin.bin'
yes
configuring interface eth0 with static ip...
Default route set through 192.168.1.1.
Success!
/etc/init.d/cups
cups: started scheduler.
/etc/init.d/messagebus
Starting system message bus:  /usr/bin/dbus-uuidgen --ensure ; /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
/etc/init.d/rc.pcmcia
/etc/init.d/rc.samba
Starting Samba:  /usr/sbin/smbd -D
                 /usr/sbin/nmbd -D
/etc/init.d/rc.umntshares
ok
/etc/init.d/usb-modeswitch
Starting Bluetooth daemon bluetoothd...


Quirky is not designed to be upgraded by installing another linux PET.

A new kernel is correctly installed by the 3builddistro script in woofQ, and a Service Pack will be created.

In your case, I would guess that you need to copy /etc/modules/modules.builtin and modules.order (which are in the PET) across to /lib/modules/4.4.8/

If that had been done, the automatic run of 'depmod' at next bootup would have worked.

I have posted the warning before, not to install a linux kernel PET, but I should have mentioned in in the blog post.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 05:35    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

Hi Barry,

Thanks for explaining. I was not aware that the pet was only intended to be used in conjunction
with WoofQ to produce a kernel upgrade SP. At least this exchange of posts may prevent someone
else repeating my blunder.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 06:22    Post subject: Overlapping partition icons
Subject description: Desktop - clicking the desired icon tricky
 

G'day Barry,
Just started with Quirky Xerus-8.0.

Having two hard drives with many partitions, I find it awkward to click the icon I want where the second row sits slightly over the bottom row (screenshot attached - problem at bottom left).
How do I increase the row gap?

No other issues yet, although I would prefer clicking the 'file' to open Rox at /root (as per the 'good old days'). Not good at these 'new tricks' Embarassed .

David S.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 08:53    Post subject: Re: Overlapping partition icons
Subject description: Desktop - clicking the desired icon tricky
 

davids45 wrote:
G'day Barry,
Just started with Quirky Xerus-8.0.

Having two hard drives with many partitions, I find it awkward to click the icon I want where the second row sits slightly over the bottom row (screenshot attached - problem at bottom left).
How do I increase the row gap?


Goodness, it has been such a long time since I worked on that code, I cannot recall what script is responsible for drawing those icons.

Um, this looks like it:

/usr/local/pup_event/frontend_funcs

...if you wish, you can play with that

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 09:44    Post subject:  

Couple items as this distro moves forward, nicely.

1st
@Musher0 provides a thread that is a Linux improvement for filesystem searches; aka "find"

Next
My USB stick was shown earlier in a post of its screen layout. In that post, it shows the view that GParted sees of the USB. I have discovered that the partition, that GParted is confused on, is an ISO9660 partition, thus it is a partition for which one cannot recover or use or manage by resize.

Thus, there is no ability to take advantage of the unused space in that partition.

Just an observation

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 10:19    Post subject:  

gcmartin,

Here, from bigpup's opening post in YaPI, is a likely solution:

(The code of=/dev/sdb sdb is the flash drive, yours could be sdc, sdd, etc.... adjust to match yours)
Code:

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M count=1   


This will remove all partitions, format, and data from a USB flash drive.

Use Gparted to get back to normal setup.
1. Make a partition table:
GParted > Device > Create Partition Table > MS-DOS default.
2. Partition and format as you like.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 10:36    Post subject:  

Hi BarryK:

I received the following WoofQ issue:

Download-Fails-debian-xenial

915resolution-0.5.3-patched_20120521.tar.bz2
cddetect-2.1-1.tar.bz2
cddetect_quick-2008-1.tar.bz2
cdrtools-3.01a25.tar.bz2
evince-2.32.0-1.tar.bz2
geany-1.24.1.tar.bz2
gnet-2.0.8.tar.bz2
gptfdisk-0.8.10.tar.bz2
helpsurfer-0.0.7-patched_libgtkhtml.tar.bz2
libsystem-0.1.6-patched1.tar.bz2
pup-tools-20151208.tar.bz2
rox-filer-2011-10-22-patched.tar.bz2
syslinux-4.07.tar.bz2
wvdial-1.61.tar.bz2
wvstreams-4.6.1.tar.bz2
xdialog-2.3.1-patched_20150811.tar.bz2

They all seem to be from the April 64 pet repository but I'm not sure how to fix. I'm not sure if skipping the ubuntu updates ended up skipping other directories or if there's some other underlying issue here.

Slavvo67

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 14:13    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,
I am using your kernel 4.4.8, no problems so far.
Some remarks :
- why are there folders in /boot ? they are not used, I had to install a bootloader by myself.
- why not propose install with extlinux by default when full install to hard disk or partition ? I use something easy like :
extlinux -i /mnt/sda2/boot
and
kernel /boot/vmlinuz
append root=/dev/sda2
- ifup and ifdown don't have scripts to bring the network up or down.
# ifdown -a
ifdown: can't open '/etc/network/interfaces': No such file or directory
- xdg-icon-resource , xdg-user-dir are needed by steam
- system is not steam ready for games..too bad for your distro popularity.
- maybe a pet for 32 bit libraries to run 32 bit programs (in ubutu they do : sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386)
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 16:33    Post subject: Battery state indication.  

This was an unexpected find Barry.

While testing the wireless facility on Xerus usb
& running this laptop on battery, the red battery symbol
when left-clicked to the table showed discharging, but
stayed permanently showing 99% on mouse hover,
until Xerus shut down the pc automatically when the
battery was flat.

In other words, the expected DOWNWARD CHANGE of
discharge rate % didn't register when mouse hovered
& battery symbol stayed at almost full red until shutdown.

When powered again from the psu, the battery symbol
was normal empty white & showed charging on the table.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 19:54    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

I used the alternative install to a 32gb SD card, pc is a HP desktop.

Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8183MB (131MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Xerus64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sun Apr 24 19:36:51 2016
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on AMD REDWOOD (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
Input Devices
Logitech USB Receiver
Logitech USB Receiver
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
HDA ATI SB Front Mic
HDA ATI SB Rear Mic
HDA ATI SB Line
HDA ATI SB Line Out Front
HDA ATI SB Line Out Surround
HDA ATI SB Line Out CLFE
HDA ATI SB Line Out Side
HDA ATI SB Front Headphone
HDA ATI HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm 3=
Printers (CUPS)
CUPS-PDF Default
SCSI Disks
ATA Hitachi HDS72101
hp BDDVDRW CH20L
Generic STORAGE DEVICE
Generic- SD/MMC
Generic- Compact Flash
Generic- SM/xD-Picture
Generic- MS/MS-Pro
OpenGL
Vendor X.Org
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on AMD REDWOOD (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
Version 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0
Direct Rendering Y_es
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 22:01    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
Hi BarryK:

I received the following WoofQ issue:

Download-Fails-debian-xenial

915resolution-0.5.3-patched_20120521.tar.bz2
cddetect-2.1-1.tar.bz2
cddetect_quick-2008-1.tar.bz2
cdrtools-3.01a25.tar.bz2
evince-2.32.0-1.tar.bz2
geany-1.24.1.tar.bz2
gnet-2.0.8.tar.bz2
gptfdisk-0.8.10.tar.bz2
helpsurfer-0.0.7-patched_libgtkhtml.tar.bz2
libsystem-0.1.6-patched1.tar.bz2
pup-tools-20151208.tar.bz2
rox-filer-2011-10-22-patched.tar.bz2
syslinux-4.07.tar.bz2
wvdial-1.61.tar.bz2
wvstreams-4.6.1.tar.bz2
xdialog-2.3.1-patched_20150811.tar.bz2

They all seem to be from the April 64 pet repository but I'm not sure how to fix. I'm not sure if skipping the ubuntu updates ended up skipping other directories or if there's some other underlying issue here.

Slavvo67


Well, a quick workaround is to just go here and manually download them:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/packages/t2/april/

Download them to:
local-repositories/amd64/packages-bz2-april

Of course, I really should fix it!

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Apr 2016, 22:27    Post subject:  

Thanks, Barry! The workaround should be fine! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Apr 2016, 00:53    Post subject:  

BarryK:

I have a few small problems... I hope you can help me with the 1st one....

First off, I have been somewhat successful replicating your Quirky Xerus with WoofQ. I note that many of the packages are missing, such as PBurn but I'll get there.... More major is below....

1. There is no background image and while the QWallpaper program launches and shows the wallpaper choices, it does not respond to them. There is also no image at initial boot. Any thoughts on what would cause this? Missing dependency or missing default file? Maybe a pinboard issue. No drive icons or icons on the pinboard. Not sure what happened here....

2. Now that I've almost replicated your Xerus; how am I going to get anything done at my work this week!!! Laughing

Thanks for your patience with me on this.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Apr 2016, 06:34    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
BarryK:

I have a few small problems... I hope you can help me with the 1st one....

First off, I have been somewhat successful replicating your Quirky Xerus with WoofQ. I note that many of the packages are missing, such as PBurn but I'll get there.... More major is below....

1. There is no background image and while the QWallpaper program launches and shows the wallpaper choices, it does not respond to them. There is also no image at initial boot. Any thoughts on what would cause this? Missing dependency or missing default file? Maybe a pinboard issue. No drive icons or icons on the pinboard. Not sure what happened here....

2. Now that I've almost replicated your Xerus; how am I going to get anything done at my work this week!!! Laughing

Thanks for your patience with me on this.

Slavvo67


I don't know why it hasn't downloaded pburn, etc. pets.

Workaround again, pburn is here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/noarch/packages/pet_packages-noarch/

The wallpapers are also in the noarch repo, that is why you get no background.

You need to be sure that you have downloaded all packages.

I don't run into these problems, as all my packages are local.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Apr 2016, 07:30    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
slavvo67 wrote:
Hi BarryK:

I received the following WoofQ issue:

Download-Fails-debian-xenial

915resolution-0.5.3-patched_20120521.tar.bz2
cddetect-2.1-1.tar.bz2
cddetect_quick-2008-1.tar.bz2
cdrtools-3.01a25.tar.bz2
evince-2.32.0-1.tar.bz2
geany-1.24.1.tar.bz2
gnet-2.0.8.tar.bz2
gptfdisk-0.8.10.tar.bz2
helpsurfer-0.0.7-patched_libgtkhtml.tar.bz2
libsystem-0.1.6-patched1.tar.bz2
pup-tools-20151208.tar.bz2
rox-filer-2011-10-22-patched.tar.bz2
syslinux-4.07.tar.bz2
wvdial-1.61.tar.bz2
wvstreams-4.6.1.tar.bz2
xdialog-2.3.1-patched_20150811.tar.bz2

They all seem to be from the April 64 pet repository but I'm not sure how to fix. I'm not sure if skipping the ubuntu updates ended up skipping other directories or if there's some other underlying issue here.

Slavvo67


Well, a quick workaround is to just go here and manually download them:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/packages/t2/april/

Download them to:
local-repositories/amd64/packages-bz2-april

Of course, I really should fix it!


Right, I think that I have figured it out. Script 'merge2out' was supposed to created directory 'woof-project/local-repositories/amd64/packages-bz2-april, but doesn't.

If you manually create that, '1download' should be able to download all of those .tar.bz2 pkgs.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Apr 2016, 09:22    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,
I think this has already been mentioned but in case I'm wrong,

I burned the Xerus 8.0 iso to a DVD+R (using Burniso2cd), booted the DVD, added some programs I like, configured SeaMonkey the way I like, then remastered using the Save button. The remastered DVD won't boot. I've tried it in two different computers, both with the same result: the DVD barely starts to load before it stops and gives this error message:
Quote:
Boot from CD/DVD :
ISOLINUX 6.03 20151222 ETCD Copyright (C) 1994-2014 H. Peter Anvin et al

Failed to load ldlinux.c32
Boot failed: press a key to retry...

If it helps, a remastered (using the Save button) Quirky Werewolf64 DVD boots just fine.
Multisession Puppy DVDs always worked reliably for me. Is multisession incompatible with Quirkys?
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Apr 2016, 09:52    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

I haven't been able to compile applications in Quirky Xerus64 but some
packages compiled in April 64 7.2 do work in the new Xerus64:

deadbeef-0.7.1-amd64.pet,deadbeef_DEV-0.7.1-amd64.pet,deadbeef_DOC-0.7.1-amd64.pet,jansson-2.7-amd64.pet,qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.6-x86_64.pet,qt-everywhere-opensource-src_DEV-4.8.6-x86_64.pet,smplayer-16.4.0-amd64.pet,smplayer_DOC-16.4.0-amd64.pet,and smtube-16.3.0-amd64.pet

There might be a better way to add these applications but adding these pets plus some packages in QPM is working.

I had to add mplayer-1.2 and ca-certificates in Xerus64 QPM.

Edit: I did get everything needed to run the smplayer/smtube in QPM, it's running well on my emachines laptop installation.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Apr 2016, 11:44    Post subject:  

Dear Barry,
Could you help us to add below files to the packages-templates of woof?
    Package: glibc (libc6_2.23)
    Location: /usr/lib/gconv/ or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gconv/
    Files: BIG5HKSCS.so BIG5.so EUC-CN.so EUC-TW.so GB18030.so GBBIG5.so GBGBK.so GBK.so libCNS.so libGB.so
    Remark: These files use by "iconv" to convert encoding between each Chinese character set.
    Package: glibc_locales (locales_2.23)
    Location 1: /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/
    Files: BIG5.gz BIG5-HKSCS.gz EUC-TW.gz GB18030.gz GB2312.gz GBK.gz
    Location 2: /usr/share/i18n/locales/
    File: iso14651_t1_pinyin
    Remark: These files use by "localedef" to define Chinese locales.
Thank you so much.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Apr 2016, 13:35    Post subject:  

Quirky Xerus 8.0
- .jwmrc-tray contains many obsolete entries : blinkydelayed , xtmix etc . Why never clean it up ?
- why are there systemd entries ? /lib/systemd/ , /etc/systemd/ , builtin_files/systemd
- dialog should be in /usr/bin , why in /bin ?
- are you sure /dev/pts are needed ? I dont use them.
- /usr/share/midi-icons : which progs use it ? should not exist actually, not standard.
- extlinux should be in /usr/sbin/ and not in /sbin/
I am picky I know, but that's good in computer science lol. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Apr 2016, 19:23    Post subject: mirror updated  

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByUDhE3nQF8ud29IcW9sSVREanc&usp=sharing
quirky xerus mirrored
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Apr 2016, 19:42    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
BarryK wrote:
slavvo67 wrote:
Hi BarryK:

I received the following WoofQ issue:

Download-Fails-debian-xenial

915resolution-0.5.3-patched_20120521.tar.bz2
cddetect-2.1-1.tar.bz2
cddetect_quick-2008-1.tar.bz2
cdrtools-3.01a25.tar.bz2
evince-2.32.0-1.tar.bz2
geany-1.24.1.tar.bz2
gnet-2.0.8.tar.bz2
gptfdisk-0.8.10.tar.bz2
helpsurfer-0.0.7-patched_libgtkhtml.tar.bz2
libsystem-0.1.6-patched1.tar.bz2
pup-tools-20151208.tar.bz2
rox-filer-2011-10-22-patched.tar.bz2
syslinux-4.07.tar.bz2
wvdial-1.61.tar.bz2
wvstreams-4.6.1.tar.bz2
xdialog-2.3.1-patched_20150811.tar.bz2

They all seem to be from the April 64 pet repository but I'm not sure how to fix. I'm not sure if skipping the ubuntu updates ended up skipping other directories or if there's some other underlying issue here.

Slavvo67


Well, a quick workaround is to just go here and manually download them:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/packages/t2/april/

Download them to:
local-repositories/amd64/packages-bz2-april

Of course, I really should fix it!


Right, I think that I have figured it out. Script 'merge2out' was supposed to created directory 'woof-project/local-repositories/amd64/packages-bz2-april, but doesn't.

If you manually create that, '1download' should be able to download all of those .tar.bz2 pkgs.


I did a complete download, to test what packages do and don't download.

All of the PETs downloaded. The only packages that didn't are those T2 April ones listed above.
I have fixed that: merge2out and 1download are the culprits. Attached.
merge2out.gz
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Apr 2016, 00:47    Post subject: Sound not working on Lenovo G50-45
Subject description: Sound not working on Lenovo G50-45
 

I am running Quirky Xerus 8.0 on my Lenovo G50-45 Laptop from USB stick saving settings to hdd.
Hardware:
Code:
-Computer-
Processor      : 2x AMD E1-6010 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics
Memory      : 1755MB (341MB used)
Machine Type      : Physical machine
Operating System      : Quirky Xerus64
User Name      : root (root)
Date/Time      : Tue Apr 26 10:11:26 2016
-Display-
Resolution      : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer      : Gallium 0.4 on AMD MULLINS (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
X11 Vendor      : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter      : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
Audio Adapter      : HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
-Input Devices-
 AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
 SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
 Power Button
 Lid Switch
 Power Button
 Video Bus
 Ideapad extra buttons
 HDA ATI HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm      : 3=
 HDA Digital PCBeep
 HD-Audio Generic Mic
 HD-Audio Generic Headphone
 Lenovo EasyCamera
 PC Speaker
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF      : <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
ATA WDC WD5000LPCX-2
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GUA0N
Generic Flash Disk


Sound not working. Please help.

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Apr 2016, 12:56    Post subject:  

Hi BarryK:

I did a small edit on the merge2out to account for the NoArch packages and I was able to duplicate Xerus! I haven't tried your updated scripts but i suppose that I will test them, separately so I can assure that any future changes can be kept up with.

So, anyway, I was able to accurately reproduce Quirky Xerus. I'll have to see what's next on my "to do" with this after some additional testing to ensure everything runs.

Thanks again!

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Apr 2016, 18:54    Post subject:  

Firefox 46 has just switched to GTK3 , which is not in Xerus, so I don't know how it will affect seamonkey later on.
Code:
# firefox
XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/lib/firefox/libmozgtk.so:
libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Apr 2016, 19:46    Post subject:  

I had Firefox 45.02 (or something like that) that just updated to 46.0 and is working. I do not have GTK3 installed.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Apr 2016, 20:18    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
I had Firefox 45.02 (or something like that) that just updated to 46.0 and is working. I do not have GTK3 installed.

are you using xerus 8.0 ? How is it possible ?
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Apr 2016, 20:56    Post subject:  

That would probably be a Barry question but yes, I am using Xerus 8.0.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Apr 2016, 21:01    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
That would probably be a Barry question but yes, I am using Xerus 8.0.

which firefox are you using ? What is its build configuration ?
I am using the official binary from https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Apr 2016, 21:32    Post subject:  

The one below. I think it's in the April repository but I uploaded it for you...

It updated to the latest and works perfectly....

https://app.box.com/s/tglryh4k2qxa8483nmrm3xsbeus6p2bm
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Apr 2016, 21:52    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
The one below. I think it's in the April repository but I uploaded it for you...
It updated to the latest and works perfectly....
https://app.box.com/s/tglryh4k2qxa8483nmrm3xsbeus6p2bm

I just tried your version, updated to 46 , didn't work out for me, it said need GTK3.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Apr 2016, 21:57    Post subject:  

I've been playing with Xerus so much that it's possible that I added GTK3. Not sure. I'll see what I can do to get you going....

OK - You're right. I downloaded and installed libgtk-3-0_3.20.3 from the PPM. I didn't even realize that I did that.....

Definitely have Firefox working, though.
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 19:19    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

I used the alternative installation to a 64gb usb-3.0 flash drive for
use on my HP mini Stream desktop.

There was 2.5 unused space left on the drive after installing so I used
gparted to make that swap space, Windows 10 is on the SSD so there is
no swap space to use there.

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Celeron(R) 2957U @ 1.40GHz
Memory 1904MB (93MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Xerus64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Wed Apr 27 18:52:02 2016
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Mobile
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH

An attempt at taking a snapshot didn't go well, I thought the install was ruined but I got it working again after a couple of reboots.
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Apr 2016, 18:07    Post subject:  

BarryK:

I don't want to be a pest but you may want to update the 1download and the woof2out with the no-arch, as well. I don't think that's currently included.

Best,

Slavvo67

p.s. - I've been down this road with Woof-CE but what's the easiest way to add my pets and dependencies? For example, the Imagemagick pets that I included on on of my previous posts. ... Many thanks...
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Apr 2016, 21:08    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
BarryK:

I don't want to be a pest but you may want to update the 1download and the woof2out with the no-arch, as well. I don't think that's currently included.

Best,

Slavvo67

p.s. - I've been down this road with Woof-CE but what's the easiest way to add my pets and dependencies? For example, the Imagemagick pets that I included on on of my previous posts. ... Many thanks...


When I tested it yesterday, all the noarch PETs downloaded OK.
The only ones that didn't were those April T2 .tar.bz2 packages.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Apr 2016, 21:27    Post subject:  

Strange, it didn't create a noarch directory of pets for me. Are they just going in with the other regular pet packages?

One other thing, I think dia is not working ootb. Not sure why but I'll figure that one out....

Best!

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Apr 2016, 01:06    Post subject: Explanations and how-to available skamilinux.hu  

Explanations and how-to available skamilinux.hu web site. beside european ToOppy. For Hungarians of course.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Apr 2016, 01:15    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
Strange, it didn't create a noarch directory of pets for me. Are they just going in with the other regular pet packages?

One other thing, I think dia is not working ootb. Not sure why but I'll figure that one out....

Best!

Slavvo67


Yeah, the noarch pets download into the same place as the x86_64 pets.

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Apr 2016, 22:11    Post subject:  

Xerus 8.0 tested PDFGREP with Libpoppler dependency for those who use.

https://app.box.com/s/z5ja7cmsm3qq8sclejk942tu4t1g5bo5
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PostPosted: Sun 01 May 2016, 13:30    Post subject: is it possible to...?  

Hi Barry (this isn't a bug, more request if it is possible),

I was wondering, is it possible to have a firewall tray icon in Xerus that not only tells us if the firewall is activated, but has the ability to set to basic firewall settings (on, off, etc)? Every time I use Xerus and start it up (which is a lot since, imho, Xerus is so nice, stable and fast; thank you) I reflexively go down ad click the firewall again, even though it told me the last time I used Xerus that "...it is set and now will start at Xerus startup and every time thereafter." I don't know why, it is just probably me, but for some reason, I feel comfort in seeing a firewall tray that tells me the firewall is always on and working. Probably lessens my OCD complex when using computers Rolling Eyes

I tried to study the Slacko64 firewall and how it works, thinking I might find a script I could learn from and transfer to Xerus, or even studying other puppy firewalls with firewall tray icons, unfortunately getting a working script for a tray icon going in Xerus is beyond my Linux skill set.

Thanks for any consideration on this.


P.S. Well, I somewhat can't believe it, but that "intense" Xerus desktop background has grown on me and I now like it, even finding myself staring at that dog wondering if he is running, and from what? Like did a nuclear fireball go off in the background (haha), a comet strike the the Earth at horizon, or just what. The geodesic texture (and color) challenge my brain, lol, to make sense of what I am seeing. Anyhow, I thought for sure I was going to be loading the green-claw Werewolf background that I had liked so much when using Werewolf. But now, week and half in with Xerus, and it has hooked me.
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PostPosted: Fri 06 May 2016, 04:10    Post subject:  

Quirky Xerus 8.0

- Did you look at "alpine linux", also based on musl and busybox ?

Some new big files which didnt exist before :
- needed for printing ? (foomatic)
/usr/share/foomatic/db/source/opt/gutenprint-ijs-simplified.5.2-pagesize.xml = 55 Mb
/usr/share/foomatic/db/source/opt/gutenprint-ijs.5.2-pagesize.xml = 23 Mb
- big libraries which programs need them ?
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblldb-3.8.so.1 = 57 Mb
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so.37.11.12 = 35 Mb
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/webkit2gtk-4.0/WebKitPluginProcess2 = 34 Mb

# /usr/sbin/cups_shell
"add new printer ? click yes"
cups: stopped scheduler.
/usr/bin/cups-config: line 25: dpkg-architecture: command not found

- when I do "ls /bin" in shell , lines are in colors too hard to read.
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PostPosted: Fri 06 May 2016, 14:02    Post subject:  

BarryK:

Can you provide some insight as to how I would add packages to Woof for inclusion in my take on Xerus? In particular, adding them to a local directory for inclusion in a build? I tried to follow Peebee's advice from the Woof-CE section but have not had any success. Of course, I could add the pets after the fact but it seems counter-intuitive to do so.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sat 07 May 2016, 12:10    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
BarryK:

Can you provide some insight as to how I would add packages to Woof for inclusion in my take on Xerus? In particular, adding them to a local directory for inclusion in a build? I tried to follow Peebee's advice from the Woof-CE section but have not had any success. Of course, I could add the pets after the fact but it seems counter-intuitive to do so.

Thanks,

Slavvo67


Once upon a time I wrote a document about that, but I can't find it.

Found this, but probably not much help:
http://barryk.org/blog/?viewDetailed=00703

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PostPosted: Sat 07 May 2016, 12:13    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
slavvo67 wrote:
BarryK:

Can you provide some insight as to how I would add packages to Woof for inclusion in my take on Xerus? In particular, adding them to a local directory for inclusion in a build? I tried to follow Peebee's advice from the Woof-CE section but have not had any success. Of course, I could add the pets after the fact but it seems counter-intuitive to do so.

Thanks,

Slavvo67


Once upon a time I wrote a document about that, but I can't find it.

Found this, but probably not much help:
http://barryk.org/blog/?viewDetailed=00703


Ah, this is it. You will find it in Quirky:
/usr/local/petget/README-add-repo.htm

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PostPosted: Sat 07 May 2016, 16:01    Post subject:  

Zigbert fixed pmusic to play with a short wav file.

pclock now gives an alarm while using xerus 64 bit with the change!

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=902825#902825

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PostPosted: Sun 08 May 2016, 11:24    Post subject:  

GhostScript_9.19_x86-64 pet for Xerus

https://app.box.com/s/urdeskg2xgoan9iolg85ri1s5vyapagx
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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2016, 01:30    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 Boot problem
Subject description: Quirky Xerus 8.0 Boot problem
 

I got a new laptop (CPU Celeron N3150, with integrated HD graphic) and try to install Quirky Xerus 8.0 to the hard disk.

I dd the iso image to a usb stick and it booted to desktop and operated without any problem.

I then created the save files using the icon on the desktop, copied the system files and created relevant entry in grub.

On booting,it could locate the saved file and the system files and so on. everything looked normal until the terminal spelled out automatic log in to tty something. Then the screen hang on there indefinitely without progress. It did not respond to any keys I pressed, including the crtl-Alt-Backspace. Finally when I was forced to long press the powerbutton, it said quirky is switching off and saving.

I tried to burn the iso to CD and boot and install the whole thing all over. The results were exactly the same. I can boot to desktop from CD but once from the harddisk, it stop after auto log in.

I tested a number of other 64bit puppies, including Tahrpup 6.05, Slacko 6.3, vividpup 6.5. All behaved in exactly the same way as above. Vividpup did notify me kernel mode setting is need to be switched on, asked me to creat a save file and reboot. However, once arriving at auto log in, it hangs. Following this hint and so search in this forum, I tried to include i915.modeset=1 or =0 after the vmlinux statement in grub entry in all the above puppies. However, the situation persisted.

The only puppy I can boot from the hard disk is fatdog64 (702, kernel 4.4.3). It did take a long time (20-30sec.) for the desktop to come up after the appearence of a movable arrow cursor.

Could anybody point me in some direction that may help to let Quirky 8.0 boot successfully from hard disk please.
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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2016, 09:10    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 8.0 Boot problem
Subject description: Quirky Xerus 8.0 Boot problem
 

csshin wrote:
Could anybody point me in some direction that may help to let Quirky 8.0 boot successfully from hard disk please.

I guess your problem is the bootloader you are using and what parameters you use etc. Try different bootloaders and parameters.
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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2016, 11:57    Post subject:  

csshin wrote:
Could anybody point me in some direction that may help to let Quirky 8.0 boot successfully from hard disk please.


grub4dos uses a configuration file named 'menu.lst' that is usually installed
on Windows C drive.

Here's a youtube video that shows how easy it is to install....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeDXJjgeVz8

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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2016, 12:40    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 Boot problem
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Since I have the win 10 system in the computer which used UEFI to boot, I am afraid installing grub and altering the MBR etc may brick the windoze.

I therefore installed fatdog64 702's UEFI booting support, which essentially used refind to boot grub first and then grub will look at a grub.conf, which is exactly like the menu.lst mentioned. I simply added menuentries to grub.conf to boot different versions of puppy.
Initially I used no boot parameter and simply follows the boot commands from the respective ISO. After failure, I have tried pfix=ram, nox and i915 modesetting respectively and all failed.

I think booting is OK as all the file loading, driver loading procedures have been gone through, up to the point of recognizing optical media and auto log in to tty. When I was forced to use the power button to quit, some puppy (such as Quirky, Slacko) actually said that it is saving and powering down. So the operating system should have been in the memory and it is unlikely a bootloader problem. My problem is it got stuck and could not get through to a desktop.

Could it be different strategies in detecting the video driver during ISO boot and frugal install boot have been used, the ISO one being more tolerant?
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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2016, 08:47    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

I used the alternative method to install to a 32gb usb-3.0 flash drive,
computer is a compaq cq5123f.

Computer
Processor 2x Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200 @ 2.50GHz
Memory 4052MB (566MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Xerus64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Wed May 11 08:41:09 2016
Display
Resolution 3840x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on NVC1
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Input Devices
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
Power Button
Power Button
HDA Digital PCBeep
HDA Intel Rear Mic
HDA Intel Front Mic
HDA Intel Line
HDA Intel Line Out
HDA Intel Front Headphone
PC Speaker
HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm 3=
HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm 7=
HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm 8=
HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm 9=
Logitech USB Optical Mouse
Printers (CUPS)
CUPS-PDF Default

SCSI Disks
ATA Hitachi HDP72505
HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH40L
Verbatim USB External SSD
Kingston DataTraveler 3.0
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PostPosted: Thu 12 May 2016, 12:44    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

I used the alternative install to a 64gb usb-3.0 flash drive, computer
is a lenovo desktop:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Thu 12 May 2016 on Quirky Xerus64 8.0 Linux 4.4.7 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v1p1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nouveau
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NVC1
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.1 (Core Profile) Mesa 11.2.0

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Core 0: @2003 1: @2003 MHz

SCSI Disks
ATA WDC WD3200AAJS-5
HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH40N
Kingston DataTraveler 3.0
Monster Overdrive 3.0
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PostPosted: Thu 12 May 2016, 17:38    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,

My final Xerus builds end up with a bunch of DEBIAN prefixed folders in the root directory. Easy enough to remove after the fact but how can I remove them in Woof, prior to it creating the usfs.xz file? Just a little cleanup with rm -rf DEBIAN* from that directory and I'm good. There must be a safe spot in 3builddistro that can take care of that. I'm guessing the rootfs-complete directory is where Woof gets the 2nd partition or is it the quirkyfs directory? The look identical. If you know off the top, thanks. If not, I'll figure it out...

Secondly, it looks like Woof isn't recognizing the pinstall instructions in my pet packages to pin icons for certain applications onto the desktop. I'm still double-checking but this looks to be the case. Where would those pinboard instructions go so Woof puts those pretty icons on my screen?

Thanks for all of your help!

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PostPosted: Thu 12 May 2016, 18:31    Post subject:  

@ Barry.... tried the Quirky but was dismayed to see that the wireless module rtl8188ee was not included.

Would you include it in the next Quirky? please
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PostPosted: Thu 12 May 2016, 20:28    Post subject:  

Doglover,

You may want to look here...
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162026

Tried to compile it but didn't have any luck...

Best,

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PostPosted: Thu 12 May 2016, 20:51    Post subject: Xerus 8.0
Subject description: multimedia failed
 

First download of xerus-8.0

Burned the .iso to to a DVD... no problem, runs just fine.

Next installed a few personal programs and setup seamonkey the way I wanted and added a few .pets (all under 1GB). again no problems.

Decided to create a save file, and went for the 'multimedia' option and used a DVD for the remaster function, appeared to have went well!

Rebooted the computer with the new remastered DVD and got this...

Failed to load ldlinux.c32
Boot failed:press a key to retry...

Re-did the whole procedure only this time used a CD for the remaster disk and did NOT install anything extra or alter xerus in any way. Again, all appeared to go well however on reboot got the exact same answer...

Failed to load ldlinux.c32
Boot failed:press a key to retry...

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PostPosted: Thu 12 May 2016, 20:58    Post subject:  

I think the answer is in Syslinux...

http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Library_modules

Is it looking for .c32 instead of ldlinux.e64?
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PostPosted: Thu 12 May 2016, 21:49    Post subject: Xerus 8.0
Subject description: multimedia fail
 

Thanks slaaqvv067!

That looks to be the problem... but also quiet complex for an OOTB user! BK will have to devise a simple .pet-fix if anyone is expected to 'multimedia a CD/DVD' for this baby!

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PostPosted: Fri 13 May 2016, 16:50    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

I did a full install to the hard drive of a HP Pavilion desktop using
the alternative install method.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 13 May 2016 on Quirky Xerus64 8.0 Linux 4.4.7 x86_64
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
oem: Intel(r)Q33/Q35/G33 Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(r)Q33/Q35/G33 Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33
OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 11.2.0

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 MHz

It is LTS so it will be the only OS on this pc.

I added applications with QPM and used the snapshot manager a few times
along the way.

It's working well.
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PostPosted: Fri 13 May 2016, 17:48    Post subject: alternative install
Subject description: error?
 

hello, (@Billtoo)

i downloaded the file to install to drive and the xerus64-8.0.usfs.xz, both are in the same folder. i'm in quirky 7.90 usb with 22gb free space, target is ext4. @ 4gb free space. but get this . . .

"The Quirky compressed image file should have been downloaded
to the same folder in which you are running this script.
It will be named something like '*.usfs.xz'
Please download it from distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/"

i'm stumped, never tried this method before. i tried renaming and unpacking the xerus64-8.0.usfs.xz but get the same error. i'm missing something but don't know what.

thank you for your time.
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PostPosted: Fri 13 May 2016, 19:07    Post subject:  

I'm not sure if 4GB is enough for Quirky. I think minimum 8GB, no?

If the script and the usfs file are in the same directory, it should work properly.
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PostPosted: Fri 13 May 2016, 19:08    Post subject: Re: alternative install
Subject description: error?
 

neur1 wrote:


i'm stumped, never tried this method before. i tried renaming and unpacking the xerus64-8.0.usfs.xz but get the same error. i'm missing something but don't know what.



I prepare the flash drive first, formatting fat32 and the boot flag not
set.

I download the files from:

Index of /quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/xerus-8.0/alternative/
Name Last Modified Size Type
Parent Directory Directory
4install-quirky-to-drive-gpt.gz 2016-Apr-20 17:44:14 8.3K application/x-gzip
alternative-readme.htm 2016-Apr-20 17:44:36 2.2K text/html
xerus64-8.0.usfs.xz 2016-Apr-20 18:00:18 277M application/octet-stream

When the files have downloaded to /root/spot I go there and create a
new /root/spot/hold directory, then copy the
4install-quirky-to-drive-gpt.gz and xerus64-8.0.usfs.xz to the hold
directory.
Enter the hold directory and right click to open a terminal there,
Then run these commands in the terminal:

# gunzip 4install-quirky-to-drive-gpt.gz
# chmod 755 4install-quirky-to-drive-gpt
# ./4install-quirky-to-drive-gpt

You will be prompted to plug in the prepared flash drive after the
script does a couple of commands and then asked which drive to use.

The script will tell you when you can remove the flash drive.
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PostPosted: Fri 13 May 2016, 21:06    Post subject: re:error?
Subject description: *marked as solved
 

my mistake was opening a teminal

Billtoo instructs: Enter the directory and right click to open a terminal there.

thank you @Billtoo

@slavvo67 "I'm not sure if 4GB is enough for Quirky. I think minimum 8GB"

gonna do a test run with the 4gb since it comes with pretty much everything. won't be installing anything else for the time being. can do a larger one if needed later. wanted to try the alternate install.

again, thanks for your help guys.
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PostPosted: Sat 14 May 2016, 00:35    Post subject:  

I'm real happy with my Quirky Xerus rebuild so I'm hoping to share it with the community, soon. It has a few extras and some things in the background that some users might like while some others could care less about. Additions like PDFTK, Imagemagick, Unrtf, Pdfgrep and a newer YAD.. Throw in Libre Office and it's looking pretty complete, at least in my eyes.

Still trying to get those dead Debian folders out of the root directory. They don't affect the final product but are just annoying.....

Just looking to tweak the background a little so people can tell the difference between my attempt and Barry's true version. I haven't really personalized it except for adding applications that, for me are must haves.

I broke Dia a little along the way, so I'm going to try and fix that before uploading, as well.

UPDATE: Don570's Right Click Tools seemed to not install properly with Woof. Package works fine when installed separately but Woof doesn't seem too happy with it. Removing it.... but recommend it as a separate install.
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PostPosted: Sun 15 May 2016, 19:05    Post subject:  

Hi BarryK:

I see you are already working hard on Sabotage but I think there may be an issue with how WoofQ handles Pinstall scripts. I am making the assumption that WoofQ should handle pinstall scripts the same as PPM but as referenced above, the Right Click Tools error out and do not install. Also, I've seen other inconsistancies where the install to desktop (pinboard icons) are not getting onto the pinboard but work fine when installing using PPM.

Have there been significant changes over the years with how Pinstall files are handled? I'm seeing inconsistencies between Woof and PPM on this which I am guessing should work the same way with pets.

Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Mon 16 May 2016, 18:18    Post subject:  

Barry made a change several years ago so that multiple desktop files in the package folder would
be properly handled and more recently he changed how the SendTo folder
was handled.

As far as the pinstall.sh file ----> when they are used with woof
Quote:

Posted on 11 Aug 2011, 8:03 by BarryK
Re pinstall.sh script
zigbert,
The pinstall script works in both cases, in Woof and in a running Puppy system.

All you have to know is that you don't put an absolute path, for example instead of /usr/lib/libfile.so, you put usr/lib/libfile.so (or ./usr/lib/libfile.so). This works in both cases.

As far as upgrading an existing Pmusic, usually you don't have to do anything special. But, in case you do, well, you can put anything that you require into pinstall.sh. Note, the script is a post-install script, so acts on the files after they have been installed.

You will notice that I sometimes put a test
if [ "`pwd`" = "/" ];then
...that is when I want pinstall.sh to do something different depending on whether the package is being installed in Woof or a running Puppy. The above test would be true if a running Puppy.


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PostPosted: Tue 17 May 2016, 16:42    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

I used the alternative method to install to a 32gb usb-3.0 flash drive,
computer is an Acer desktop.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue 17 May 2016 on Quirky Xerus64 8.0 Linux 4.4.7 x86_64
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18 )
oem: Intel(R)Ironlake Desktop Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R)Ironlake Desktop Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Desktop
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 11.2.0

Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 2: @1200 3: @1200 MHz

Added applications with QPM, switched to Icewm-1.38

Working well.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 May 2016, 15:05    Post subject: Problem with taskbar indicators  

On my ACER Cloudbook (with Quirky8) the indicator for battery capacity seems to show 69% all the time except when the battery is fully charged.

When you click the indicator and see the full details it seems to be getting the correct information.

The clock seems to have a mind of its own - I have no idea where it gets the crazy times from. Just now it was showing 5pm when it was actually 8pm. This morning it was wrong by about 7 hours and 40 minutes. Each occasion I select menu/desktop/set date and time to correct it.

Also I could find no way to show the date as well as the time in the taskbar.

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PostPosted: Wed 18 May 2016, 16:33    Post subject: Re: Problem with taskbar indicators  

Robin2 wrote:
On my ACER Cloudbook (with Quirky8) the indicator for battery capacity seems to show 69% all the time except when the battery is fully charged.

When you click the indicator and see the full details it seems to be getting the correct information.

The clock seems to have a mind of its own - I have no idea where it gets the crazy times from. Just now it was showing 5pm when it was actually 8pm. This morning it was wrong by about 7 hours and 40 minutes. Each occasion I select menu/desktop/set date and time to correct it.

Also I could find no way to show the date as well as the time in the taskbar.

...R

Hi Robin2,

Use PupClockset manager on the Desktop menu to display both date & time.

With regard to the time, check in QuickSetup that you have Your location set correctly.
The shot below shows mine set as Europe/London. Also before clicking OK tick the box at
the bottom of the Quicksetup window to "Set the time/date from the internet"

Sorry, but no idea on the battery issue.

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PostPosted: Wed 18 May 2016, 18:35    Post subject:  

The pclock app by zigbert leaves a big clock in a window for the user.
SEE HERE

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PostPosted: Thu 19 May 2016, 03:06    Post subject: Re: Problem with taskbar indicators  

ETP wrote:

Use PupClockset manager on the Desktop menu to display both date & time.


Have you got that in your Quirky Desktop menu? I can't see it in mine?

What version of Quirky are you using?

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PostPosted: Thu 19 May 2016, 04:39    Post subject:  

Hi Robin2,

Radky's PupClockset-2.4.2 manager pet has to be installed.
It can be obtained here:

http://www.smokey01.com/radky/PupMates.html

Pup displayed is Quirky Xerus 8.0 final with a variety of pets
installed together with manual additions.

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PostPosted: Thu 19 May 2016, 13:58    Post subject:  

ETP wrote:

Radky's PupClockset-2.4.2 manager pet has to be installed.


Thanks for the link. I will have a look at that.

However the purpose of my first Post on this subject was to let the Quirky folks know that there is a bug in the system (or two).

Right now the clock shows 10:35 when the correct time in 18:57

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PostPosted: Fri 20 May 2016, 16:01    Post subject:  

"Robin2" there are a lot of reasons why the time can change or get messed up.

- haveing multiple OS can cause times issues mostly has happened to me when switching between windows and linux.

- dead cmos battery

- not setting the time zone correctly

- bios time not set correctly and conflicting with OS time

there are probably more things that can go wrong but most likely operator error.
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PostPosted: Sat 21 May 2016, 04:10    Post subject:  

There is only one OS on the laptop - Quirky8.

It is very new so I doubt if it is a battery problem,

My guess is that the piece of code that is intended to update the clock data on the taskbar is not working properly and may be connected to the problem that fails to update the battery condition indicator.

I have been hoping to get some feedback from someone who is familiar with the code behind those features.

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PostPosted: Sat 21 May 2016, 04:48    Post subject:  

Robin2

Didn't your Acer Cloudbook come with Windows?

If so, and if not deleted, does the clock work using Windows?

If, as it seems, you are the only user with this problem, it may be a bad install, especially as you also reported a problem deleting icons.
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PostPosted: Sat 21 May 2016, 12:32    Post subject:  

Quote:
instead of /usr/lib/libfile.so, you put usr/lib/libfile.so (or ./usr/lib/libfile.so). This works in both cases.


Thanks Don570 but this did not work with the usr/lib/libfile.so example. I will try again with the ./user/lib/libfile.so example but this took quite a bit of testing time. It was on a much simpler pinstall than the Rightclicktools, so I need to get that going before getting the Rightclicktools to install properly. That pet is critical, though and I think it's a must in all Puppy or Quirky distros.

Also, I'm having a real difficult time with Chromium based browsers in Quirky Xerus. It seems the typical sandbox scripts aren't working properly, though I've had some success using the "no sandbox" option. No sandbox is not the way to go.....

- Thanks again,

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PostPosted: Sat 21 May 2016, 14:34    Post subject:  

ASD wrote:
Robin2
Didn't your Acer Cloudbook come with Windows?


I repeat "There is only one OS on the laptop - Quirky8."

What have you in mind when you say "a bad install"? Has this happened to you?

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PostPosted: Sat 21 May 2016, 15:45    Post subject:  

Robin2:

Perhaps you can start another thread under Users for the Regulars with a How to install Quirky Xerus to a computer. It needs a separate Grub4dos install, I think.

Best,

Slavvo67

PS - I may add the Radkey time pet to my next alpha.

ALSO: Both methods of changing pinstall to work in Woof have failed. If anyone can elaborate on Don's guidance above it would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sun 22 May 2016, 03:15    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
Robin2:
Perhaps you can start another thread under Users for the Regulars with a How to install Quirky Xerus to a computer. It needs a separate Grub4dos install, I think.


What had you in mind when you suggested this? The standard install process in Quirky seems to work fine and uses Syslinux.

As far as I can see Syslinux is easier to use than Grub.

However I am far from being sufficiently competent to write a tutorial.

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PostPosted: Wed 25 May 2016, 09:03    Post subject:  

Quirky Xerus 8.0
- abiword cannot open docx files. It's a pity. Is it a missing option in compilation ? Someone has a solution ?
- /usr/local/share/ is empty , is it used ?
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PostPosted: Wed 25 May 2016, 22:24    Post subject:  

There is no perfect solution that I know of for .docx files in Linux. Libre Office and maybe similar Open Office might be your best option. The newer versions come with a convert function so you can "potentially" convert docx to a format that better works with Libre.

Libre is free and can be installed in Windows and Linux environments so I'm still surprised that MS Office keeps a stronghold.

Importantly, even when a word processor says it handles .docx format, it usually doesn't keep format correctly, etc. I try to save as .rtf which seems to cross convert easier.

@Robin2: How is your full install working? A few of my USB's stopped booting but I've been doing a lot with them so it's not completely unexpected. Still, I always worry about doing a full install of Puppy / Quirky, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 May 2016, 03:01    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
@Robin2: How is your full install working? A few of my USB's stopped booting but I've been doing a lot with them so it's not completely unexpected. Still, I always worry about doing a full install of Puppy / Quirky, etc.


I discovered (only 2 days ago) that there is a XenialPup and I have switched to using that as I prefer the saveFile concept and it is overall more similar to TahrPup.

What is really annoying is that the XenialPup was available before I bought my ACER and none of my searches found it.

Thanks everyone for their assistance.

...R

PS. As of this writing XenialPup won't boot from the ACER hard drive - only from a USB stick whereas Quirky did boot properly (and faster).
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PostPosted: Thu 26 May 2016, 22:08    Post subject:  

Yes, I think you should have asked more questions before wiping your drive and installing Puppy or Quirky (unless it's more for fun than production).

The true fact is that I don't think that I've found a perfect Puppy or Quirky, though some are more solid than others for sure.
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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2016, 04:20    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
Yes, I think you should have asked more questions before wiping your drive and installing Puppy or Quirky (unless it's more for fun than production).

You mean I should have kept Windows 10 as a fallback because it works better ?


In any case XenialPup is now booting direct from the eMMC drive on my ACER.

...R
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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2016, 16:51    Post subject:  

"Works better" --- well, I don't want to get into that on this thread but possibly more stable. Possibly not. Just had Windows10 crash on me, yesterday. Still, I personally don't believe in wiping the original operating system off a computer unless you have multiple computers.

A lot of Puppies are works in progress so I wouldn't recommend installing one as the only operating system at least until running it via usb or CD for a while to be sure it's what you want and continuously works without significant flaws.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 May 2016, 07:20    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
unless you have multiple computers.

Five.

Like Imelda Marcos' shoe collection Smile

...R
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Only 5!
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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2016, 04:21    Post subject:  

He he... only eleven (11) at home...
Many many at work!
Only 3 remains loaded with Wondows XP for emergency cases.
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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2016, 06:05    Post subject: Battery Condition Indicator not updating  

On my new ACER Cloudbook the battery condition indicator does not update. It only shows the position as it was when Xenial booted.

If I click the indicator it opens the detailed window which correctly shows the data relating to the battery.

OOPs - I have just realized I posted this in the Quirky Thread rather than the Xenial Thread.
Apologies for being stupid


Actually I had the exact same problem with Quirky8

...R

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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2016, 13:00    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

I did a new install to the hard drive of my emachines laptop:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun 29 May 2016 on Quirky Xerus64 8.0 Linux 4.4.7 x86_64
5.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS690M [Radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS690 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 11.2.0

AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Core 0: @800 MHz

I added some applications with QPM, was able to update Gogglesmm to the
latest version.
Also installed Vlc-2.2.2.5 from QPM.

Working great.

EDIT: I downloaded the source for the Gtktetris from the Fatdog64 repo on
ibiblio and made a pet for Quirky Xerus 8.0.

It will create an icon in the Fun section of the Quirky menu but to get
the proper icon download the tetris.xpm.gz and rename it to tetris.xpm,
then put the file into the /usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons directory.

I enjoy this game so maybe others will too.
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jun 2016, 13:09    Post subject: Quirky8.0 Xerus bug w/ Broadcom "b43" wireless driver module  

Hi all (and Barry),

Has anyone had any success getting Quirky 8.0 Xerus to work wirelessly? Especially if you have the ubiquitous (b43) broadcom wireless? I have a 2009 HP Mini 210-1010NR laptop, and it needs the "b43" wireless driver. How do I know this?

Well, I also currently have run Tahr64, Slacko64 and Fatdog64 on this laptop, and each time each one of those OSes loads, it properly loads the Boradcom "b43" driver this laptop needs. But Quirky does not. Even when it says it has loaded, it tells me I have no wireless hardware, which I know is wrong, lol. What's the kicker here is that even Barry's old 32-bit Precise Puppy 5.7 effortlessly loads the correct "b43" driver and away I go on this laptop.

So, what is up with Quirky Zerus 8.0 64-bit? I have been using Xerus on this laptop via a ethernet connection for about 5 weeks now, love it, as it is always stable, fast and reminds me of my love for Precise Puppy 32-bit. But today, I wanted to take the laptop off my desktop and move it upstairs, which meant moving to wireless, and then I ran into a brick wall. It became a no go, despite Xerus telling me the b43 driver is loaded and ready to go. What's worse, there is not even a recognition from Quirky Xerus that I have any wireless ability on this HP laptop (his had nothing to do with setting up the wireless network as I cannot even get to that stage since Quirky Xerus says there is NO wireless hardware anywhere).

Is this possibly a bug somewhere either in the Xerus drivers and/or the driver not loading despite Quirky saying it has loaded it?? (...please know that also let Quirky do the "autoload" test, to rotate thru and try all the wireless drivers, and it always immediately returns to the "b43" driver...and, yes, the Quirky firewall is disabled).

Could there, Barry, be a mistake when the "b43" wireless module was compiled and put in Quirky 8.0 Xerus?

Anyone else using the "b43" driver and having success? I even had a friend try to get Quirky 8.0 Xerus working on his laptop, which also needs the "b43" wireless. He downloaded Quirky8.0 Xerus, burned it to a CD (I had did both, USB and CD, downloading Quirky two different times thinking I had a corrupted download)...anyhow my friend got the same result as I did: Quirky says there is no wireless hardware in his laptop. So we know now that this is not our laptops, not when two different mftr latops are running into the same problem. It just boils down to Quirky Xerus runs great using a LAN connection but seems blind to any laptop that needs/requires the "b43" wireless driver.

Anyone have any tips on getting around this? Is there a way for me to pull the b43 driver from either Tahr64, Slacko64, or even Fatdog64 (which all currently work on this laptop, as I checked again today) and transfer it into Quirky 8.0?


Thank you for any help.
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jun 2016, 16:56    Post subject: Re: Quirky8.0 Xerus bug w/ Broadcom "b43" wireless driver module  

Belham wrote:

Has anyone had any success getting Quirky 8.0 Xerus to work wirelessly?


My emachines laptop has b43 wireless and it wasn't working in Quirky 8.0 Xerus either.
I booted my Quirky April64 flash drive install on the laptop and the broadcom wireless works fine on April64 so I copied the /lib/firmware/b43 folder to /lib/firmware in my Xerus 64 install and now the broadcom wireless works.
Also copied b43legacy and brcm folders but I think b43 did the trick.
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Jun 2016, 11:56    Post subject: Re: Quirky8.0 Xerus bug w/ Broadcom "b43" wireless driver module  

Billtoo wrote:
Belham wrote:

Has anyone had any success getting Quirky 8.0 Xerus to work wirelessly?


My emachines laptop has b43 wireless and it wasn't working in Quirky 8.0 Xerus either.
I booted my Quirky April64 flash drive install on the laptop and the broadcom wireless works fine on April64 so I copied the /lib/firmware/b43 folder to /lib/firmware in my Xerus 64 install and now the broadcom wireless works.
Also copied b43legacy and brcm folders but I think b43 did the trick.



Billtoo,

Can I ask which april64 version you took the b43 drivers from?

april-6.89/
april-6.92/
april-6.96/
april-7.0/
april-7.0.1/
april-7.0.2/
april-7.0.3/
april-7.0.4/
april-7.2/
aprilneo-7.1.93/

I am going to do like you, but rather than download all of these trying to find which version is best, I'd like to just grab the one you used. Somewhere along the way, the b43 and b43legacy wireless drivers got screwed up (my bet is the compiling) from Wary to Werewolf and to now, most especially, to Xerus. Surprised Barry never corrected this. The Broadcom B43 wireless is still one of the most used in all laptops over past decade. Lots of people with old laptops still have the B43. Someone besides us two has to have also experienced problems.

Anyhow, thanks in advance for letting me know which april version you pulled & copied the b43 driver from.
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Jun 2016, 12:04    Post subject: Re: Quirky8.0 Xerus bug w/ Broadcom "b43" wireless driver module  

Belham wrote:

Can I ask which april64 version you took the b43 drivers from?


The latest version, April64-7.2
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Jun 2016, 12:53    Post subject:  

If I may interject to avoid any confusion: Billtoo got a FIRMWARE file, not a DRIVER. The firmware files should be the same across all the versions.
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Jun 2016, 13:41    Post subject: Re: Quirky8.0 Xerus bug w/ Broadcom "b43" wireless driver module  

Billtoo wrote:
Belham wrote:

Can I ask which april64 version you took the b43 drivers from?


The latest version, April64-7.2



Dang, didn't work for me, Billtoo Sad From April64-7.2, copied over the b43 and b43 legacy folders & put them in the /lib/firmware of my Xerus 8.0, and nada, nothing. Xerus still is saying my laptop doesn't even have wireless hardware---which I know is crap since Tahr64, Slacko64 and Fatdog64 all bootup on this laptop & quickly load the broadcom b43 firmware (sorry, rscn51). Something is screwy in Quirky Xerus, especially since I booted up the April64-7.2 off a USB, and bang, immiedately my laptop had wireless and April64 shows it loaded the b43 firmware.

This is over my head in attempting to fix. Regarding puppies, I can copy directories, make small changes here and there, know my way around them and can play with remastering, vmlinuz, etc., etc. I even know how to do the simple stuff like completely disable and/or remove a firewall (which I did in Quirky, preventing it from loading any firewall on startup). Heck i even downloaded Quirky 8.0 Xerus 3 different times, to make sure I did have a corrupted download. So, anyhow, finding why the b43 wireless won't work in Quirky Xerus while it somehow works in April64-7.2 on this laptop (along with s many other puppy variations mentioned earlier), I am going to have to say goodbye to Xerus. I don't have the brains for the solution. I hate the thought now of leaving Xerus because it quickly became one of my, if not thee, favorite after I got it setup like I like with ffox, chrome, and other stuff Sad

Thanks again, Billtoo, for responding so quickly.


Update: Success! It never occurred to me to just completely delete the firmware folder in Quirky 8.0 Xerus and replace it with the complete firmware folder from April64-7.2. I did this, and sure enough, Quirky 8.0 Xerus booted up, immediately loaded the b43 firmware, and told me I had both lan and wireless cpapability. Woohooo. It is now running off wireless smoothly. Thanks again Billtoo!! I'd never went down this road if you hadn't posted Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jun 2016, 17:05    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jun 2016, 23:43    Post subject:  

Belham:

I am trying to address your wireless issue via an RUXerus build by adding the b43 firmware to the next version. It will be posted in the I am creating it now so if you have an extra usb stick hanging around, I would appreciate it if you could do test on this.

I did not delete the entire firmware folder and recreate the April. I'm curious if the WoofQ will handle it properly.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jun 2016, 00:04    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
Belham:

I am trying to address your wireless issue via an RUXerus build by adding the b43 firmware to the next version. It will be posted in the I am creating it now so if you have an extra usb stick hanging around, I would appreciate it if you could do test on this.

I did not delete the entire firmware folder and recreate the April. I'm curious if the WoofQ will handle it properly.

Thanks,

Slavvo67


Barry posted this on his blog about firmware that was left out of
Quirky 8.0.
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I have created a PET with lots of firmware for the 4.4.x Linux kernel (34.4MB):

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/noarch/packages/pet_packages-noarch/firmware_linux_all_k4.4-20160423.pet

This will be in the next release.

Some Quirky 8.0 and earlier users reported needing Broadcom b43 and brcm network firmware -- this PET has what you need, I think.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jun 2016, 00:19    Post subject:  

Good reminder. If I recall, that pet didn't help me but still it's good to add it into my WoofQ for future releases. It will help someone....

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Jul 2016, 12:31    Post subject: Re: Xerus 8.0
Subject description: (solved) failed to find ldlinux.c32
 

sszindian wrote:
First download of xerus-8.0

Burned the .iso to to a DVD... no problem, runs just fine.

Next installed a few personal programs...etc..
Rebooted the computer with the new remastered DVD and got this...

Failed to load ldlinux.c32
Boot failed:press a key to retry...


Hi,
one possible solution: once xerus runs from livecd
1. before erasing the DVD, copy ldlinux.c32 from iso to /boot/iso;
2. edit /usr/sbin/remasterpup2, line 448 as follow, and save:
Code:
   for F in vmlinuz initrd.gz ${ZDRVSFS} grldr menu.lst '*.xpm' isolinux.bin isolinux.cfg '*.msg' '*.16' ldlinux.c32 '*.HTM*' '*.ICO' '*.INF'


Afterwards, click on the save ico, then REMASTER, step2, step3.

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jul 2016, 20:37    Post subject:  

We are getting trio's SVG Wallpaper Maker working in Quirky, see this thread:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=915430#915430

Put in that new /usr/sbin/qwallpaper, then await trio updating of Wallmaker PET to use the new qwallpaper.

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jul 2016, 10:40    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final
Subject description: drivers
 

ETP's DLNA Quirky Xerus64 Pup V1 - released 2nd July 2016 seems to have
many drivers included.

I have it running from a 32gb flash drive on a computer that came with
Windows 10.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun 31 Jul 2016 on Quirky Xerus64 8.0 Linux 4.4.7 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller:
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Tonga PRO [Radeon R9 285/380] (rev f0 )
oem: AMD ATOMBIOS
product: TONGA 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: amdgpu
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD TONGA (DRM 3.1.0, LLVM
3.8.0 )

OpenGL core profile version string: 4.1 (Core Profile) Mesa 11.2.0

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz
Core 0: @800 1: @800 2: @800 3: @800 MHz

Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter

Wireless,sound,and graphics card are all supported.
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jul 2016, 11:58    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

Hi Billtoo,

Barry's own additional firmware pet is one of the many extras in the DLNA Pup as keeping the size down was not a factor.
See:
www.barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00351

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jul 2016, 18:35    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 8.0 final  

ETP wrote:
Hi Billtoo,

Barry's own additional firmware pet is one of the many extras in the DLNA Pup as keeping the size down was not a factor.
See:
www.barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00351


The built-in wireless of my emachines D620 laptop isn't seen when
network wizard is run, tried loading a couple of broadcom modules but
no luck there so using the wired network.

Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)20

Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Memory 1794MB (111MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Xerus64
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sun Jul 31 17:17:47 2016
Display
Resolution 1280x800 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB

That the OS works so well on a laptop with a single core processor and
2gb ram is amazing.

I have an usb adapter that is supported if the laptop ever travels
(unlikely),it uses the only free usb port though.

D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122 Wireless Adapter(rev.C1) [Ralink RT2571W]

Edit: I have LxPupSc installed on the hard drive of the laptop so I
copied all the broadcom stuff in /lib/firmware to /lib/firmware of the
flash drive install of DLNA Quirky Xerus64 and rebooted.
Then ran the network wizard and my built-in broadcom wireless works
now.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Aug 2016, 20:56    Post subject:  

Barry,

Woof2 seems to be pointing to the wrong repositories for Quirky Unicorn. Can you help me resolve this? I'm revisiting the 32bit idea.

Thank you,

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2016, 06:20    Post subject:  

@Billtoo

I think you meant BCM43142, source is available here
AMD64
http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/amd64/bcmwl-kernel-source/download
i386
http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/i386/bcmwl-kernel-source/download
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2016, 06:54    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
Barry,

Woof2 seems to be pointing to the wrong repositories for Quirky Unicorn. Can you help me resolve this? I'm revisiting the 32bit idea.

Thank you,

Slavvo67


Do you mean the PETs?

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/x86/packages/pet_packages-unicorn/

The URLs for PETs might have changed from the woof2 days.

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2016, 07:04    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
slavvo67 wrote:
Barry,

Woof2 seems to be pointing to the wrong repositories for Quirky Unicorn. Can you help me resolve this? I'm revisiting the 32bit idea.

Thank you,

Slavvo67


Do you mean the PETs?

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/x86/packages/pet_packages-unicorn/

The URLs for PETs might have changed from the woof2 days.


Oh, woof2, do you really mean that? It got retired a very long time ago.

For Quirky builds, I use woofQ, see latest that has been uploaded:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00345

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2016, 22:22    Post subject:  

Oops, sorry, WoofQ it is. It seems that some of the repositories are no longer there for the QU. I'll check again but it think it was the Ubuntu ones.
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Aug 2016, 21:25    Post subject:  

This directory is gone:

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2

Looks like the utopic directory is missing in action...

WoofQ gives me a failed to download and aborts right at the beginning of the 0setup script.
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Aug 2016, 01:50    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
This directory is gone:

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2

Looks like the utopic directory is missing in action...

WoofQ gives me a failed to download and aborts right at the beginning of the 0setup script.


Oh, yes, gone. That's unfortunate.

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Aug 2016, 17:07    Post subject:  

Tried installing using the 'alternative' choice. Running from DebDog64

First run, said I needed gdisk ... so apt-get install gdisk .... second run said I needed syslinux ... so apt-get syslinux .... third run said wrong type of syslinux, needed the efi or something like that, so install syslinux efi version using Synaptic. Ran again and ... still said wrong type of sylinux (version 6.x)

By that stage I had a /usr/lib/SYSLINUX folder (with a mbr file and others in it) and a /usr/lib/SYSLINUX-EFI folder with efi32 and efi64 folders in it, so I copied those two folders across to the SYSLINUX folder ... and reran the installation and it worked OK. Playing videos (and sound), straight to desktop and net connected ...etc OK. (USB booted, 2GB ram, nvidia graphics card).

Short story, if run from Debian then the 4install-quirky-to-drive-gpt script needs to check for SYSLINUX ... OR ... SYSLINUX-EFI folders for efi32 (efi64) sub-directories/files (would also have been nice to have checked for gdisk and syslinux versions before running through all of the other uncompressing ...etc stuff).
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Aug 2016, 18:05    Post subject:  

Any tips/suggestions as to improving font quality?

Using a 32" TV as a monitor and have antialiasing/hinting etc turned on (even worse if turned off).
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Aug 2016, 05:10    Post subject: Font clarity  

Hi rufwoof,

Barry's Pups are OOTB, typically set up for small laptop screens and require quite a bit of work to get best clarity on larger monitors.

You may wish to try DLNA Quirky Xerus64 V1 Pup were all the heavy lifting in terms of fonts & themes has been done including a custom GTK theme.

If you do not wish to try that, start by checking that the global font size is set at its default of 96 dpi then adopt the settings in

the shot below. (N/B the "No Shadow" option)

Use Black-vg for the JWM theme.

You will need to experiment with the GTK theme but I suggest there using "Open-Sans Semi-Bold 11" as the font.
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Aug 2016, 10:29    Post subject:  

Thanks ETP
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2016, 05:41    Post subject: Screen resolution
Subject description: HDMI->VGA give incorrect resolution
 

Hello, my mini-pc connects to my monitor via HDMI and HDMI to VGA
convertor. All worked well on previous Puppy Tahr. Now on Xerus 8
I cannot set the required resolution, ie 1280*1024, I always get
1920*1080. When I try to change resolution via setup all looks plausible,
but nothing changes. If I try to edit xorg.conf it is always empty.
Computer is quad j2850,Aptio bios, Intel graphics, 2*HDMI, no VGA.
Please tell me if this is the wrong place to ask.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2016, 19:59    Post subject:  

BarryK

Just a heads up.... it seems that trying to include the devx in the build did not work... or possibly a user issue (me). In the build-choices I chose yes to include devx.... but no git; so no devx.

Not a big deal for me but worth a mention just from a testing standpoint.

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Sep 2016, 05:18    Post subject: Internet connection
Subject description: No recognition of Realtek RTL8191S WLAN adapter
 

Tried both quirky werewolf and Xerus with the Realtek usb adapter with no success. I have used it in Tahr pup 6 etc with no problems,I have tried all the drivers in the Network without success. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2016, 05:57    Post subject: No recognition of Realtek RTL8191S WLAN adapter  

Hi Dennis,

BarryK created an additional firmware pet (32 MB) in April 2016 which includes extra RTL WiFi firmware.
Install that and then reboot.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/noarch/packages/pet_packages-noarch/firmware_linux_all_k4.4-20160423.pet

If still no joy, on the Tahr Pup where the adapter does work can you in a terminal issue the following command and post the output?
Code:
dmesg | grep firmware

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2016, 07:47    Post subject: Re: No recognition of Realtek RTL8191S WLAN adapter  

ETP wrote:
Hi Dennis,

BarryK created an additional firmware pet (32 MB) in April 2016 which includes extra RTL WiFi firmware.
Install that and then reboot.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/noarch/packages/pet_packages-noarch/firmware_linux_all_k4.4-20160423.pet

If still no joy, on the Tahr Pup where the adapter does work can you in a terminal issue the following command and post the output?
Code:
dmesg | grep firmware


A note about missing firmware in Quirky. At the very first bootup, a file gets created, I think it is called /tmp/networkfirmware-missing

It lists all of the firmware missing from the kernel network modules.

Just run this in a terminal to regenerate that file:

# updatenetmoduleslist.sh

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 05:24    Post subject:  

Thanks for the help. Barry I did the update modules but have had no success as yet getting it to work. below is the requested dmesg .
I could not find the r8712 as yet but still more to do .Right now I have had the dreaded call from the kitchen.
Thanks again.




usb 2-5: r8712u: Loading firmware from "rtlwifi/rtl8712u.bin"
r8169 0000:03:00.0: Direct firmware load failed with error -2

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 12:37    Post subject: Additional Firmware  

In my testing, the additional firmware noted above is breaking the Network Setup on Xerus64. Both the Connect icon and the small Network Setup Icon (bottom right of screen) seem to stop functioning. I'll do a little more testing but this is what I'm seeing.

OK. Let me qualify this. It seems the firmware installation affected the functionality of the Network Setup and Connect icons on my HP Stream Laptop but on my Dell desktop, there does not appear to be the same impact. I'll have to provide some specs

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 15:09    Post subject: No recognition of Realtek RTL8191S WLAN adapter  

Hi Dennis,

The output from dmesg on the working Tahr Pup shows that the rtl8712u.bin firmware is
required. That is included BarryK's pet which I linked to above.
At this stage you have nothing to lose, so I suggest that you install that pet, reboot and
see whether you are then able to configure your wireless dongle.

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2016, 00:11    Post subject:  

ETP Thanks for the help,I used the pet and rebooted and the R8712u showed up. When I installed it questioned whether it would work with WAP I ticked to install and all was well. I realised that the first time I tried the pet I had not saved the session when I rebooted.
This is the first time in the 10 years or more that I have been using puppy that I have done a Frugal install as in the past I had always done full installs and so the Save bit was overlooked.
My excuse is my birthdate in 1941 when there were not a lot of modules and network wizards etc.
Incidentally I inadvertently did the netmodule update in Tahr 6.0.2 and it did the same to my Connect icon as it did to Slavvo67 and it now does not work.
Thanks again for the help. Regards Dennis.

Further to the above. I have decided that Quirky is not my cup of tea. I got the connection but anything I tried turned to C***p and I for the life of me cannot get the advantage of Frugal install, Start up is ok but if I save the session it seems to take forever to shut down.I guess that in my case you cant teach an old dog new tricks.Also now my network wizard is not cooperating since I did the updatenetmodule on Tahrpup by mistake.
Woe is me but thanks anyway. Regards Dennis.
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Dec 2016, 21:44    Post subject:  

It has been awhile, but here is a new Quirky for x86_64 CPUs!

Blog announcement for Quirky 8.1.5:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00482

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Dec 2016, 04:12    Post subject: Quirky Xerus for _32 computers, please  

All my three PCs are 32-bit - I would appreciate an updated Puppy for these - or have you stopped updating for 32-bit PCs
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Dec 2016, 04:25    Post subject:  

Congrats & thanks for this milestone. Notwithstanding, unconvinced that world+dog should phase out use of .iso and CD/DVD. Worldwide it's the most popular, most flexible and available media option that just isn't going anywhere soon. Vast HW collections exist and reusable CD/DVD-RW are cheaper, more reliable. No harm in porting to USB sticks/SD but these only apply to newer, esp. cheap portable equipment with BIOS/UEFI/SB compatibility but too early to assess the rewrite ability/lifetime of flash media.

.iso? - keep 'em coming.

Later: long list of addresses after Call Trace - dump stack, panic do_exit, SyS_exit, entry_SYSCALL_64_fastpath,
then - Kernel Offset:disabled
end Kernel panic - not syncing, etc, etc.

No idea what it means.
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Dec 2016, 12:31    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.1.5 for x86_64, released Dec. 25, 2016  

I used the alternative method to install to a 32gb SDHC card:

# sh inxi -bw
System: Host: Acer-I3 Kernel: 4.8.8 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM git-976 Distro: Quirky 8.1.5 xerus64
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: Acer model: Aspire X3950 serial: U02C120500059
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 05/05/2010
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3 540 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1200/3067 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 168x58 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122 Wireless Adapter(rev.C1) [Ralink RT2571W] driver: rt73usb
Drives: HDD Total Size: 532.0GB (1.4% used)
Weather: Conditions: 34 F (1 C) - Overcast Time: December 26, 11:19 AM EST
Info: Processes: 161 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 112.8/5836.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.7
# free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 5976500 301912 5674588 81104 3108 190540
-/+ buffers/cache: 108264 5868236
Swap: 2103292 0 2103292
#

I updated QPM and installed some applications including Firefox and
Chromium.

It's working well so far.
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Dec 2016, 13:04    Post subject:  

iso to usb,
dd if=xerus64-8.1.5.iso of=/dev/sdd

alternate method
unxz --stdout xerus64-8.1.5-8gb.img.xz | dd of=/dev/sdd bs=4M

always same results as Kernel panic... what's the mistake?

md5sums OK.
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Dec 2016, 14:40    Post subject: Kernel Panic ISO  

Kernel Panic ISO

Screen dump, will not load, tried to boot twice. Downloaded ISO from nluug
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Dec 2016, 15:08    Post subject:  

no way to load
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Dec 2016, 16:13    Post subject:  

Same here
Code:
# dd if=xerus64-8.1.5.iso of=/dev/sdb

boot from USB : kernel panic
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Dec 2016, 08:56    Post subject:  

Same problem over here.

Code:
Processor:    2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Memory:      3087MB (552MB used)
Motherboard: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5Q
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Dec 2016, 09:36    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.1.5 for x86_64, released Dec. 25, 2016  

I used the alternative install method from my Fatdog64-710 install and
installed to a 64GB flash drive.

I downloaded these files from nluug:
xerus64-8.1.5.usfs.xz
4install-quirky-to-partition.gz
alternative-readme.htm

The first try erred out but I installed the missing files with gslapt
and reran the install script.

# sh inxi -bw
System: Host: HPE Kernel: 4.8.8 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM git-976 Distro: Quirky 8.1.5 xerus64
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HPE-410f serial: MXX0370KF3
Mobo: FOXCONN model: 2AB1 v: 1.00 BIOS: American Megatrends v: 6.02 date: 07/21/2010
CPU: Hexa core AMD Phenom II X6 1045T (-MCP-) speed/max: 800/2700 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 186x63 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Card-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1064.7GB (1.2% used)
Weather: Conditions: 37 F (3 C) - Overcast Time: December 27, 8:20 AM EST
Info: Processes: 177 Uptime: 8 min Memory: 161.8/7990.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.7
# free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 8182648 403392 7779256 6172 2312 241848
-/+ buffers/cache: 159232 8023416
Swap: 9227464 0 9227464
#

I updated QPM and installed some applications.
It's working well so far.
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Dec 2016, 09:45    Post subject:  

I have disconnected my USB and my SATA drives booted up - same problem.

My guess is, that the 'intel core 2 Duo' is not supported.

Quirky Werewolf 64-bit 7.4 is built with 'intel core 2 Duo' support.
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Dec 2016, 10:03    Post subject:  

I have AMD64 and also kernel panic, so I don't think intel or amd is the problem.
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Dec 2016, 10:23    Post subject:  

Time for Billtoo to do what most of us regular folks do! Come on Bill, d/l the .iso and try to run it on a single core 64bit machine....
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Dec 2016, 10:32    Post subject:  

Also got a kernel panic from both ISO and install to drive. Something important is missing. One clue is that it reported "unable to find any hardware clock" on one machine. This is likely a problem with the x86 SMB. There's a great deal more information, but I think the reports above should be enough to diagnose the problem.

At the moment I'm perplexed about BillToo's success, particularly when he says he used gslapt to install missing files.

At the moment I'm unable to run install to partition on my test flash drive because my machine can't find a partition on that drive.

I'll post again after another experiment.
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Dec 2016, 10:33    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.1.5 for x86_64, released Dec. 25, 2016  

Sage wrote:
Time for Billtoo to do what most of us regular folks do! Come on Bill, d/l the .iso and try to run it on a single core 64bit machine....


That method has already been proven to not work so why would I try that?

Try the method that did work for me Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Dec 2016, 11:07    Post subject:  

@ BarryK

You will not like it but it seems to be kernel related.

I have downloaded the xerus64-8.00.iso version and this one works.

Just posting of it.

Regards,
Feodor

Some time Later:

There is nothing wrong with the 4.8.8 kernel. After a 'Full Install' of the xerus64-8.0.iso to my sda2 partition and the bumping up to xerus64-8.15 version via the service-pack everything looks good!

The implementation of the 'LlibreOffice' pack was a brilliant idea.

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Dec 2016, 11:32    Post subject:  

OK, I've got past the problem of recognizing the flash drive, and here's what I found on the 8 GB drive resulting from the install_to_drive script. (I'm using a clean boot of Fatdog 710 to investigate the problem, to avoid complications from my modifications.)

There are two partitions, here sdg1 and sdg2. It looks to me like the problem is with the append in the syslinux.cfg intended to mount the second partition as system root.

At this point it looks like the files are there, but not being mounted and recognized. I'm guessing one big problem is with missing kernel modules.

There is a problem in checking md5sums or sha1sums, since only the defective ISO file has a checksum.

If Billtoo can tell me what missing files he replaced, I'll try to fix that. This release actually looks pretty close to working, even from the problematic installations.

Added: whoops! I found that partition with all the file system was left over from a previous Quirky installation I did on the drive. It includes files which should have been replaced in this version. This would have been easier to spot if the systems had not been so similar.

There's a problem with the install script.