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Studio 13.37 2.4 is out!
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l0wt3ch

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Mar 2016, 19:06    Post subject:  Studio 13.37 2.4 is out!  



New in 2.4:

The iso is now a multikernel isohybrid, 32 and 64 bit, with UEFI support. Studio 13.37 now works on Intel-based Macs!

Updated kernel versions to 4.4.3-rt9.

Updated ALSA libraries, updated versions of Ardour, Non DAW, and MuSE. Added nano and xkill.

Added pWidgets (thanks Zigbert et al). Inspirational music quotes right on the desktop!

Corrected a bug where Chrome wouldn't run because Firefox was installed. Firefox is intentionally frozen at version 34, doesn't complain about Flash, can't upgrade itself, and is heavily customized. Pretty nice.

Added lightweight ocd-Dock, activate it using the included "Dock Selector" tool. (Thanks ProgRob!)

Openbox updated to 3.6.1, pretty flashy with fun effects.

Special thanks to all the people who tried to help me solve my problem related to EFI and graphics drivers - jamesbond, 01micko, Ted Dog, Karl Godt, cthisbear, puppyluvr, and Flash. Much appreciated!

And thanks to jamesbond and kirk for implementing EFI and rEFInd in FatDog.

Watch the new video, or check out my slightly-revamped website!

Updates available for free for existing users.
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Mar 2016, 02:20    Post subject: x86 class Hybrid ISO that will boot 64bit PCs or 32bit ones  

Hello @l0wt3ch

There are, now, 2 PUPs which other Puppy developers can review which the ISO allows its users to boot into "either" 32bit mode or 64bit mode. Namely
  1. this ISO, Studio 2.4
  2. @StemSee's ISO, EmSee
Thanks should go out to each of you for providing references developers can use as Puppy Linux moves into its future.

Now, a user can download a single ISO which will work on all of one's home PCs to take advantage of the benefits their platform(s) offer.

Thanks for this! Idea
Edit: fix mis-typing

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Mar 2016, 03:08    Post subject:  

They can download for a price Laughing and it makes Fatdog64 anorectic by comparison. As the mac tester, not sure if I passed along that never could get the sound working. The 32/64 uefi bug did not happen in macs so would have liked to use his setup to rebuilt a more flexible grub4UEFI mini project.
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l0wt3ch

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Mar 2016, 11:56    Post subject: Re: x86 class Hybrid ISO that will boot 64bit PCs or 32bit ones  

gcmartin wrote:
...ISO allows its users to boot into "either" 32bit mode or 64bit mode. Namely
  1. this ISO, Studio 2.4
  2. @StemSee's ISO, EmSee


StemSee did it first, and it was a brilliant idea. I just had to steal it. Laughing

You're right, though. Having all the versions in one iso is pretty nice.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Mar 2016, 19:33    Post subject:  

Congratualtions! And once again, even a delightful choice of wallpaper,
on top of surprising solutions to market forces gone dark.

Great to see puppy devs overcoming the flailing hardware/software
contortions of mega corporations in cahoots with shadowy gubbamints...
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Mar 2016, 19:54    Post subject:  

CHECK YOUR PM came across security issue with ISO, its an easy fix however others should not use this release, as a beta tester sorry I missed it before, but sound does work, so good and bad news..
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Mar 2016, 23:22    Post subject:  

In case you guys didn't know, ciento was the one who encouraged me to make my distro a commercial product in the first place! He's also given me lots of valuable support over the years.

Thanks ciento!
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l0wt3ch

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Mar 2016, 23:51    Post subject:  

So check this out:

After Ted Dog wrote the above post telling me to check my PM's, I checked and there was a WARNING IN ALL CAPS telling me to retract the iso immediately because, he said, I had inadvertently included all of my login information and passwords!

Naturally, I was like WHAT?!? But he confirmed it by sending a PM to himself FROM MY ACCOUNT. I could see it in my sent folder.

I dropped everything I was doing and started changing my passwords for the whole Internet. Because Ted Dog wasn't the only person who had got a copy of the beta; for example I also sent it to customers who were having issues with older versions. And I could tell by the download stats that they had shared it with a ton of people. So anyone could log in to my government accounts, PayPal, websites, email, get my credit card info... the sky was the limit!

So there was no time to lose. I mean, I didn't even have time to go to the bathroom. I had to change hundreds of passwords. Some of them I had to chat with my web hosting company to figure out how to change them. It was a big job!

Meanwhile, Puppyluvr was asking me for a copy of the iso, and because Russoodle's server is down, I was relying on Mega.nz to host it and forgot that for large files they make you sign up for an account. So I logged into my neglected Dropbox account, changed my password, and started uploading 2.4.

And to my surprise, there was the beta iso in my Dropbox! I thought I had deleted all copies of it, but here it was. Probably how I got it into Ted Dog's hands in the first place. I downloaded it and copied it to usb.

So now Ted Dog's sort of blackmailing me for a free copy of 2.4 to keep the password leak secret. He's joking, telling me I don't PM anyone very often by the looks of it. I'm like, er, could you please delete all copies of the beta? Meanwhile, I'm frantically changing all my passwords, and he's watching baseball.

I booted the usb stick on my other laptop, checked Saved Passwords in Firefox preferences, and SIGHED A HUGE SIGH OF RELIEF. There was only one password saved - the one for this forum! Not sure how it got into the beta, but the crisis was over. I'd been changing all my passwords for nothing.

Of course, the 2.4 release iso didn't have any saved password info, so that was fine. And Ted Dog says he got sound working on his Mac with the beta, so that's a plus.

But man! That was crazy.

TLDR: Everything is cool. Sound works on the Mac.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2016, 02:20    Post subject:  

That was even scary just reading about it! Shocked
Still, new passwords are good for security on a regular basis.
Hopefully the blackmailer won't bill you for inspiring that Wink

Has spring sprung yet? Or is it still commuting Iditarod style?
Looks like winter was nicely productive Cool
...skiers here are singing 'let it snow, let it snow, let it snowwww...'
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2016, 08:44    Post subject:  

Yet another fine example of the Puppy community ethos Smile Ted Dog, you so rock. l0wt3ch, please make yourself a tidy income with your latest offering. Well Done, all, and Best Wishes Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2016, 16:35    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
Testing the 32 and 64 bit versions via my tester. ( my 9 yr old son.)
Pried him off Debiandog!
BTW. My first Puplet I forgot to delete personal stuff too.
I got an email, from me (sic), pointing it out!
Lucky we have an honest group here!

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2016, 17:58    Post subject:  

That sort of exchanges happen behind the public view, can't share any of them, since most would freak out the normal people who can't see the true risks in some situations.
Glad he acted fast! some do not and really freak-out when people they do not know 'protect them' in ways they would never read about here or on line. Rolling Eyes
So far due to slow moving response to security removed 2 companies from internet, took over a country level root domain and ended up in a humorous friendly cross fire for a second country governments administration and thousands of hackerbots. And thats AFTER I was employed in security Razz I am retired now and have been for while.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2016, 19:56    Post subject:  

Ok tell you another humorous event. Was working on site for a Banking related company due to a cluster of inbound attacks and probes, average level stuff just plain boring. Till about week 5. Got a probe without much of a target, seemed even below need to document, until I routinely checked actual IP range sent, which never gets transmitted since its the joke or dumb range assigned to off world geography.
Ok that is not hard to spoof but due to its use as the testing firewalls and routers never see it in passed outside of a testing LAN. Other clues gave me a idea of distance traveled. So I expected it was a new and expanding router worm, which was called in to immediately knock off line. Attack dropped off wthin a minute. A few weeks later ( same site ) had another call in for agressive attack to knock off line, the guy on other end which never had a two way conversation before related what happen with the router worm. Info lead to a raid and another server on the floor in a empty unused office space. When what was unique, there was an actual physical 'person' at the time of attack, and IP range was assigned to planet MARS.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2016, 20:52    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
Initial report.
Testing the 32 and 64 bit versions with the 4 series kernels.
Boot medium: multiboot USB thumbdrive
Machine:
HP dual core AMD with 3gb ram.
PITA NVidia graphics.
PITA Atheros Wifi.
Everything works OOTB.
Sound, glx, everything.
Picked up the NVidia "Gallium" driver for 800 fps.
(how did you do that? Kernel driver?)
Firefox and all add ons work flawless.
Aside from the multimedia stuff, which works great, (duh, long time fan/user, no surprise.) this Pup captured this machine OOTB. Best first impression in a long time.
Good work man...
Love the desktop quotes. 💻

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2016, 22:00    Post subject:  

And this is why I do not keep my login info electronically. Of course, I could lose the pad that I write things on but man, better than sending to hundreds of strangers from around the world. We're lucky that at least the community regulars seem to walk a high moral plane. Kudos to Ted Dog! Wink

Speaking of, no disrespect to your efforts but don't you think $75 is a bit steep? Mind you, I don't do audio editing and I probably would have thrown out up to about $25 just to see how it handled the different boot options.

Also, you may want to offer older versions for free or discounted prices on your website to entice people to purchase the latest and greatest.

Just a few suggestions.
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