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8Geee


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PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov 2016, 21:33    Post subject:  

1.) According to 01Micko, the original creator of Slacko5.7, updating or exchanging kernels is not within the scope of the distro... therefore it has to be re-engineered from ground up. This CAN be accomplished with the newer Slacko6.3 version, but then, only to those kernel packages provided.

2.) This one is sorely needed in all modern Puppies, not just this one. And, this too is a very big job. There is an outside chance that Slackware might migrate to LibreSSL, but at the cost of also using OpenBSD. This will inflate Puppies quite a bit.

Basically, I maintain Slacko5..7 by providing updates to it, not re-coding any files or operations. Sorry about that... what 01Micko originally supplied is either updated or removed, depending upon end-use (primarily, these are for EEEpc and clones, but I do update the original, and provide a better version of FireFox-27)

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Nov 2016, 10:50    Post subject:  

Regarding X11 update bug you are mentioning in post before, I encountered it too while trying to update whole vanilla 5.7 via "Updates Manager -latest from Slackware". I got it right on 2nd try. Basically, its about install order. Maybe I had some luck, maybe my logic works. Idead is to first update libs but in case of X11 make sure libX11 is installed LAST. Otherwise GUI apps will complain of missing symbols (which are contained in other dependent X11 libs) and since Update Manage is GUI we are stuck... btw. tedious 1by1 updating makes me really appreciate god among package managers: Archlinux's pacman, eh eh.


So hmm you basically say I'm out of luck with 1) updating kernel and 2) moving to LibreSSL. Well thats unfortunate. Except these two things Slacko 5.7 is pure perfection for me.


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2.) This one is sorely needed in all modern Puppies, not just this one. And, this too is a very big job. There is an outside chance that Slackware might migrate to LibreSSL, but at the cost of also using OpenBSD. This will inflate Puppies quite a bit.


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Its very big job
I suppose it means recompiling all packages currently linked against OpenSSL? Yea it would be super nice if upstream Slackware did that but if they don't want maybe we could. How many packages are involved? 20, 50?
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but at the cost of also using OpenBSD

This does not compute. Only connection between LibreSSL and OpenBSD is that OpenBSD developers forked OpenSSL and renamed it to LibreSSL. And they actively maintain it. Also they are known to write quality code so I presume this:
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This will inflate Puppies quite a bit.

may as well be opposite of it. As openBSD developers rewrite, trim down, squash bugs at worst size will be same. My understanding at least.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Nov 2016, 22:07    Post subject: CURL 7.51 update  

Right after posting about the X11 updates, yet another reminder that CURL has also been updated from 7.50.3 to 7.51.0. This update involves cookies, so it should be done if using curl.

This update does not need any symlink patches, and the /usr/doc file file may be deleted.

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Nov 2016, 15:37    Post subject:  

Hey I have one tiny problem with this slacko (and vanchutr's too interestingly).

It shut downs pc if I leave it unattended for 20-30 min.
Can someone point me which setting would control such thing?

Why is that even set up? Just strange...

I run puppys live and set up my environment every boot manually.

Original Slacko 5.7 has no such problems.
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Nov 2016, 20:08    Post subject:  

In MENU --> System --> Puppy Event Manager click on the right-most tab "Power".

There is a small box at bottom to enter some number as a "Shutdown after no mouse activity" The default Slacko5.7 by 01Micko had this set to zero (do not shutdown). By typical usage, I set this to 30 (minutes). IIRC the range is 0 to 999.

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Nov 2016, 21:13    Post subject:  

8Geee, my man, love you. Very Happy

Was getting pretty desperate with this. Somewhere in back of my mind I remember seeing this somewhere on forum but searching for it is hell (keywords: shut downs, poweroff, ehh, toooooo broad search terms).

And Puppy IRC is sad quiet place.

I still feel a bit clumsy clicking around on GUIs, really not used to them yet coming from XFCE environment mostly. If Puppy has something - its most extensively gui driven linux - once you get to know all guis.

Anyway, I'm still enjoying nicely this Slacko5.7-2017, it is my main driver for now since other Slacko 5.7 I could find (from vanchutr) has several bigger issues.

As I said I'm mostly LIVE user, but I have one 2GB save archived which I created from vanilla slacko 5.7 after I updated it to my satisfaction. Most importantly I've got recent version of mplayer working. It was a bit time consuming finding all missing libs. But now I can for example play x265 encoded video in it, which is quite nice upgrade, I'd say. So maybe you could think about updating it too. Or I may create ISO from that save, once I'm fully happy with it.
I'd still like to try kernel upgrade, but its big thing to tackle and 01micko is not answering my PM Sad
I also never created ISO yet, but I guess its natural progression for long time puppy user, heh.


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PostPosted: Sat 03 Dec 2016, 21:53    Post subject: firefox SVG image warning  

There is a rather nasty bug found in firefox, about how it handles an SVG type image. AFAIK this is not related to the OS, just the browser. The topic is addressed in the security forum.

A partial remedy/simple patch can work using this method. The only caveat is the new step #8 that involves copy/paste of the header. That requires opening Geany first, do the copy/paste there, and then close browser, disconnect, and proceed.

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Dec 2016, 00:37    Post subject: expat 2.2.0
Subject description: OS related XML patch
 

There is a new bugfix for expat, whiich is an XML handler/parser.
All of the Slacko 5.7 spins need this update as there are concerns about XML
handling of at least svg images.

This update needs a symlink patch in /usr/lib... the old 1.5.2 version is
deleted, and the symlink from 1.6.2 replaces it. The /usr/doc files may be removed.

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jan 2017, 13:14    Post subject:  

Hi, 8Geee.

Got a query for you.

Bearing in mind the mods you've made to this, what are the odds of a save-file from vanilla Slacko 5.7.0-PAE working with your 'take' on it? I'm only asking, because amongst all my other Pups, with the exception (perhaps) of Tahrpup, I've always found 570 to be one of my favourites in terms of outright stability.

And modernisation can only improve things..... Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jan 2017, 14:49    Post subject: gnutls update
Subject description: memory double-free
 

A reminder that there is an update needed for gnutls to version 3.3.26

This update needs a symlink patch by removing libgnutls.so.28.41.16
and creating the symlink to the new version 28.43.0 from the removed version.

All usr/doc and usr/info files may be removed.

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jan 2017, 15:19    Post subject:  

Hi, 8Geee.

Congratulations for your work on Slacko-5.7.

I notice on the GnuTLS site that there was a version 3.5.8 published
at the same time as v. 3.3.26.

Is there any particular reason you're recommending v. 3.3.26? (Since
versions with higher numbers are theoretically more advanced?)

TIA.

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jan 2017, 20:50    Post subject:  

The 3.3 version is stock Slacko5.7.

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2017, 23:38    Post subject: Mike W.  

Never done such a thing as a transplant. I'm kinda busy with elderly parent and 4 spins that need regular attention, and oh, a cat of 20 years age. Actually these arch-slacko5.7's are fairly stable also. They just work, as I suppose the PAE version does also.

ION: the libpng 1.4.20 update is available from slackware, but this one is a doozy. IT reinstalled older stuff, and it has to be removed and symlinked, plus the last 1.4.19 also needs a symlink, and the dot a and dot la files need symlinks. Its PITA time again. One will have to navigate usr/bin and usr/lib... Rolling Eyes

I got my personal EONS edition, and the mini-eee done, just 2 more (eee and 5.7) left.

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2017, 21:31    Post subject: UPDATE coming soon  

Slacko5.7-2017A is being readied, there are some last-minute updates that need to be addressed before release. Page 1 Post 1 will be updated with new link when ready.

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*** PS to Mike W. et al *** there are some snags with PAE version as outlined earlier. IIRC it may be that there are structural changes. It appears that some eeePC things are either dropped or modified.(Keyboard layout)

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Feb 2017, 01:16    Post subject:  

Semme wrote:
Home icon? >> /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/home48.png



FF should be installed @ /usr/lib. On this spin? Possibly /opt.


Firefox can also be installed to /lib I've been installing it to /lib for 10yrs or so, Since Seamonkey usually goes in /usr/lib and sometimes you have to system link the libs out of the folder and they cross paths.
Hence the reason I use /lib you also could use usr/local/lib but that doesn't always work like you said /opt also is another location that could be used.
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