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DLNA Quirky Werewolf64 Pup V3 – released 23rd March 2016
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PostPosted: Wed 30 Mar 2016, 15:25    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Wed 30 Mar 2016, 16:28    Post subject: Testing  

I managed to break it.
After exiting to prompt I typed: xwin fvwm95 (because that was listed as an option)
System came back again but would not exit. So I did a hard poweroff and rebooted.
The filecheck fixed the USB file system but on next boot the system came up frozen and mouseless.
I fear I've killed it..

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2016, 03:17    Post subject: Re: Testing  

Barburo wrote:
I managed to break it.
After exiting to prompt I typed: xwin fvwm95 (because that was listed as an option)
System came back again but would not exit. So I did a hard poweroff and rebooted.
The filecheck fixed the USB file system but on next boot the system came up frozen and mouseless.
I fear I've killed it..


Hi Barburo,

Normally typing xwin by itself is sufficient, although you could type xwin jwm with no ill effects.

The syntax displayed is common to all pups including the latest WoofCE based ones. fvwm95 is an ancient
windows manager that pre-dates my time in the kennels. In this pup the only windows manager installed
is jwm. If an additional wm were installed you would have to type xwin xxxxxxxxxx where the x's represent
the correct command for that particular wm.

It is an understandable error given that the example syntax implies that both options are available and a worrying one if it
can do that much damage. IMHO WoofQ & WoofCE need changing.

The safest way to recover the situation is to simply do a re-install to the stick in question.

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2016, 04:15    Post subject: Re: Testing  

Barburo wrote:
I managed to break it.
After exiting to prompt I typed: xwin fvwm95 (because that was listed as an option)
System came back again but would not exit. So I did a hard poweroff and rebooted.
The filecheck fixed the USB file system but on next boot the system came up frozen and mouseless.
I fear I've killed it..


When you type "xwin fvwm95" it gets written to /etc/windowmanager and that's where .xinitrc looks for which window manager to load. Booting to a prompt and typing "xwin jwm" will restore the file and it should work normally. Or, if you can access your savefile, you can add /etc/windowmanager with jwm as the only text.

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2016, 06:19    Post subject: Testing  

Hi Barburo,

Please ignore rg66's well intentioned advice as it does not apply in the context of this Pup.
Just do another install which is a procedure you are familiar with and have had success with.

This Pup is a full install so you will not find a save file or folder on the second f2fs partition.
In addition there are 2 syslinux.cfg files on the first partition. One of those has already been
modified and would need to be modified again before you could issue the appropriate command to
boot to the prompt.
An automatic file system check is triggered if you do a hard poweroff regardless of whether the
file system has been corrupted or not. If it was, it may or may not fix the issue as other files
may have been changed or deleted.

Your motivation for dropping to the command prompt is also not known. Were you just testing the
option or intending to address some issue?

The safest bet is another install which will guarantee success.

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2016, 12:47    Post subject:  

Hi ETP
I thought you may have a second Window Manager included, just as in rapid pup you use fluxbox in addition to jwm. Plus in the spirit of testing, if it says something's there I usually try to test it out.

Thanks to rg66 for the explanation.

I said I was using two sticks to test, and I simply copied using Pudd from my good stick over the corrupted one -took about 30 minutes - and I had my customisations back and running.

So I am I'm ready to go again! I think you've done a fine job with this particular puplet and it's my intention to go on using it for now. It's super fast, connects quickly to my wifi router, comes with a huge amount of useful stuff and I'll be looking for other machines to test it's bootability.

At $10 for a USB3 16Gb SanDisk flash drive from Canadian Costco (3 for $30) you may even have won me over to the concept of running a system on a stick rather than a Frugal install or a full install to an internal partition, although ... like others I have grown to like those methods.

If I break it again I've got my backup method from the old USB2 stick or simply reinstall so no worries.

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2016, 20:42    Post subject:  

It has come to my attention that the additional WM offered in console has been fixed awhile ago in WOOFCE. So the issue is one of @BarryK's distro(s) carrying this erroneous prompt forward.

Might this error be fixed via your system Maintenance utility? And could "slocate" command be added to Bash via the System Maintenance as well?

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Apr 2016, 05:47    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
It has come to my attention that the additional WM offered in console has been fixed awhile ago in WOOFCE. So the issue is one of @BarryK's distro(s) carrying this erroneous prompt forward.

Might this error be fixed via your system Maintenance utility? And could "slocate" command be added to Bash via the System Maintenance as well?

Hope this helps.

Hi gc,

I have just loaded Peebee's LxPupSc - Woof-CE, Slackware-current, LXDE experiment 16.03.6 updated
on 31st March. It is based on the latest WoofCE and the [fvwm95 | jwm] syntax is still there.

I may be wrong, but I think that it has to be changed in WoofCE rather than by a pet or SP.

EDIT: Line 499 of the shellscript /usr/bin/xwin is the one that needs changing, plus appropriate
translations for what if anything replaces the existing text.


With regard to my Maintenance utility (WolfAlert_mk1|Visual + Spoken alert of new pets/service packs at boot time)
that was present in V1 but was not included in V2 or V3. I will be issuing it as a pet once russoodle's new
Meownplanet site is online. It has not been available so far this year.

I do not intend to issue a pet for "slocate" due to the fact that it writes to any NTFS partition that you happen
to mount. That could cause corruption if Windows 8/8.1/10 is in fast boot mode.(i.e. hibernated)
I also agree with BK that pFind is no slouch and does a perfectly adequate job.

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Apr 2016, 17:59    Post subject:  

Thanks @ETP for your explanations.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2016, 05:27    Post subject: DLNA Quirky Werewolf64 Pup V3 - released 23rd March 2016  

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New pet now available.

WolfAlert_mk3.pet (2MB) for DLNA Quirky Werewolf64 Pup V3


The above pet provides a visual & spoken alert at boot time should new pets or service packs become available.
It utilises Google Drive rather than russoodle's Meownplanet which has not been available so far this year.

The pet can be found here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_iVVJCd9q09UEtpWjN0SDhtOGM

For testing purposes the alert has been turned on & will remain so for 96 hours.
After that any future alerts will be genuine.

Full sized screen-shot here: (Press F11 to toggle into full screen then click on link)
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B_iVVJCd9q09OFBQU0hKVGNfWGs

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Apr 2016, 03:35    Post subject: DLNA Quirky Werewolf64 Pup V3 - released 23rd March 2016  

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Optional Pet for DLNA Quirky Werewolf64 V3

This pet provides quick access to any Chrome Apps/Extensions together with the ability to perform
ordinary Google searches straight from the desktop.

Installation will create a new menu item named "Chrome App Launcher" on the Internet sub-menu but once
installed it is more convenient to drag the chromeapplauncher.desktop file onto the desktop from /usr/share/applications.

Once you have a copy on the desktop, right click it to edit the text below the icon and to assign it a keyboard shortcut such as the pause key.

Brief examples of use:
Having booted to the desktop........

Press the "pause key"
Press the letter "m" when the GUI pops up. (murga-linux.com/puppy/ should then appear at the top of the list)
Press the "enter" key to access the Puppy forum.

With the forum page on screen.

Press the "pause key" again
Type vg when the GUI pops up. ( The vGet cast extension should then appear at the top of the list)
Press the "enter" key to launch that app.

With that app on screen.

Press the "pause key" again.
Type in any normal search you fancy.
Use the down arrow key to highlight one of the options presented and then press enter.

Wolf Alert has been turned on & will remain so for EDIT 72 hours.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2016, 04:11    Post subject:  

Does anyone know of a dlna client available for Puppy? cheers
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2016, 11:53    Post subject: DLNA Quirky Werewolf64 Pup V3 - released 23rd March 2016  

Hi greengeek,

Both vlc & kodi have the ability to act as UPnP/DLNA clients/renderers.
Any Pup or Windows O/S running either of them should be O/K.
Here are a couple of screen grabs showing vlc in Chromebook Pup V2 on my XP box
accessing the DLNA server on DLNA Quirky Werewolf64 Pup which is running on my Win10 box.

Press F11 to toggle into full screen before clicking on each link:

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B_iVVJCd9q09Wm1GR0hMUHo2YUk

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B_iVVJCd9q09Q2JRN0xsOGxUdm8

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jun 2016, 04:01    Post subject:  

Thanks ETP - your image shows VLC 2.0.5 and seems to show the upnp protocol available, however my version (2.1.0 Rincewind) does not show it. Did you have to do anything special to get upnp showing in your network tab? cheers!

EDIT - it appears that I need to use the "playlist" tab but when I do this and click universal plug and play I see a spinner which rotates for a minute or so but nothing else appears in the browser window. Does this mean I need to have some sort of playlist set up on the dlna server - rather than being able to browse folders on the server(as I can from my TV)?

(If I click "Jamendo" in the playlist browser it allows me to access files online so VLC seems to be running fine - it just seems as if the problem is in accessing my local dlna server)

EDIT 2 : After I restarted VLC it picked up my dlna server ok. Took a l_o_n_g time to see the folders within the dlna server, but eventually I was able to play the streamed files.

Thanks for the VLC suggestion!
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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jun 2016, 05:40    Post subject: DLNA Quirky Werewolf64 Pup V3 - released 23rd March 2016
Subject description: DLNA client question
 

Hi greengeek,

Thanks for raising this issue of DLNA clients. You are the first to do so and it is important as not everyone has a smart TV and
may wish to access from another device/OS/Pup.

No setup of any kind is needed in vlc but you do need playlist view (ctrl+l).
It may take some time to scan for DLNA servers and for vlc to then populate its template directories with the list of files
broadcast by the DLNA server.

Information on the kodi setup can be found here: (Look for remote UPnP players)

http://kodi.wiki/view/UPnP/Client

Finally a shot of Blue Pup V6 using Rincewind to access the DLNA server on DLNA Quirky Werewolf64 Pup.

Press F11 to toggle into full screen before clicking on link:

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B_iVVJCd9q09VWY3UkVOMlhTdkU

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