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peebee


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PostPosted: Thu 16 Mar 2017, 13:11    Post subject:  

interim delta 17.03.2T to 17.03.31T

kernel 4.10.3
slackware current changes to Thu Mar 16 01:37:05 UTC 2017
including xorg-server-1.19.3

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Mar 2017, 14:13    Post subject:  

Interim delta 17.03.2T to 17.03.31T downloaded and applied. md5sum of generated iso correct. Thanks for the quick catch on the version number. I downloaded the delta to .2 and was pondering but went off to run the dog and presto...

Update of Grub4Dos frugal install of 17.03.21T went smoothly, glxgears FPS unchanged, sound and WPA2 connection fine. Posting from slimjet version 13.0.7.0 (based on Chromium 55.0.2883.75) rolled into an SFS.

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Thu 16 Mar 2017 on LxPup-Sc 17.03.31 Linux 4.10.3-lxpup-32-pae i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)

X Server: Xorg Driver: evdev
X.Org version: 1.19.3
dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 17.0.1

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz
Core 0: @800 1: @800 MHz

Update: 17.03.31T with the 4.4.52 kernel is just fine on the Pentium M laptop. Update, boot, run, glxgears FPS, saves and shutdown all just fine.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Mar 2017, 05:27    Post subject:  

Reuploaded 22-mar-2017

interim delta 17.03.2T to 17.03.32T

kernel 4.10.4
slackware current changes to Tue Mar 21 21:42:52 UTC 2017

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Mar 2017, 11:44    Post subject:  

17.03.31T to 17.03.32T update on frugal Grub4Dos install to SSD on the core 2 duo laptop uneventful. All checksums ok. Continuing to use as my daily alongside X-slacko Slim. Still wrangling with the toolbar fonts on slimjet. No matter what I do with the font setup on the LXDE derivs, the XFCE pups all give slightly bolder better defined fonts there. Just a personal nit, all else is great.
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PostPosted: Fri 24 Mar 2017, 04:57    Post subject:  

Reuploaded 26-mar-2017 - just look&feel changes

interim delta 17.03.2T to 17.03.33T

kernel 4.10.5
slackware current changes to Thu Mar 23 21:38:23 UTC 2017

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Mar 2017, 12:32    Post subject:  

Updated 32T to 33T on the core 2 duo and 31T to 33T on the Pentium M laptop (using the 4.4.52 kernel). Probably before your re-upload. Both went perfectly, sound, video, suspend, save perfect. I continue to use slimjet, OscarTalks 13.08.0 SFS now, and have figured out my font niggle. It's not XFCE vs LXDE but a fontconfig thng.

I installed and set up LxPupXenial-17.03.00 and the slimjet toolbar fonts were fine! Rooted around and swapped fonts in LxPupSC, no change (I'd done lots of that previously). Swapped /etc/fonts for the LxPupXenial one and the toolbar fonts improve to what they are in the X-pups and LxPupXenial-17.03.00. Lots of repeated swapping, X-restarts, reboots and squinting. It's real and reproducible. This is with the stock fonts, theme, and /~/.gtkrc-2.0 etc. Finally set up named stock and Xenial /etc/fonts dirs so I could just move the contents in and out of /etc/fonts and open slimjet. No X-restart required, it follows that configuration.

Now I think the LxPupSc-slimjet combo will pass muster on the farm BayTrail box and I can get slimboat off of it!

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Apr 2017, 11:13    Post subject: LxPupSc-17.04.1T  

LxPupSc-17.04.1T is a 32-bit pae woof-ce 'testing' branch build

LxPupSc-17.04.1T.iso {devx} - (devx does not include kernel sources or headers) {kernel 4.10.8-lxpup sources}
iso md5 = a516268687a0d4a821fa7c42eda22d3a

Delta from 17.03.2T is available

- kernel 4.10.8 (alternative alternative kernels 3.16.x and 4.4.x also available)
- Made from Slackware-14.2/current as of Sat Apr 1 05:16:59 UTC 2017
- BUILD_FROM_WOOF='testing;733eb1b;2017-04-01 09:59:32 +1000'
- web browser in adrv is light-48.0
- firmware is in fdrv
- alternative fall-back xorg is in ydrv (no need to install unless needed)
- font improvements initiated by and tested by @Marv with thanks

Woof-CE build repository is: http://smokey01.com/peebee/slackocurrent/

Chromium, Firefox, Opera, Palemoon and Seamonkey are in the repository and installable via Internet -> Get Web Browser

The versions of the browsers as of 24-mar-2017 with their md5sums are:

chromium-57.0.2987.98+pepper_25.0.0.127 :209aed47674359fea8a0739fd3759907

firefox-45.8.0esr :0fbab8e715e01e5c4171e27ba783ce6e

opera-stable_44.0.2510.857_i386 :ae43fabf7518b1badd3cefb61ad5721c

palemoon-27.2.1 :a19abdd5a6caf5116b9c67953ad2f7cc

seamonkey-2.46 :a7e8216ba4821129798b80a16d459b67

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Apr 2017, 12:47    Post subject:  

Up and running LxPupSc-17.04.1T on both core 2 duo laptops after a brief 'shot myself in the foot' spell with a leftover high compression fdrv or bad zdrv from a test iso Confused Both pristine boot and updates from 17.03.33T boot and run well, and my slimjet toolbar fonts pass my squinty eye test as well. glxgears FPS at 1780+ is extremely good for these laptops. I'll give the Pentium Ms and BayTrails a go later today. So far, great.

Edit: Installed Grub4Dos frugal on both the Pentium M laptop (using the 4.4.52 kernel) and on the BayTrail desktop. Both boot and run just fine and have the expected glxgears FPS for the respective hardware. Set up the BayTrail box as a samba shares and print server with scan capability for the old USB connected Epson CX_5400 with no hitches.

Thanks for the patience peebee,

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Apr 2017, 04:21    Post subject: PulseAudio??  

Mozilla is moving all it's products to require pulseaudio.

Latest Firefox-52 has had it as a dependency for some time....

Now Thunderbird is also moving that way (though why sound is a requirement for an email system is a bit beyond me!)

Slackware have also moved to include pulseaudio as a basic system component...

So I'm wondering if I should include apulse (the alsa pulseaudio imitator) in the LxPupSc build? I probably will unless I'm alerted to a downside.

If anybody has any thoughts let me know.

[LATER] Just had a look at Thunderbird-52 downloaded from Mozilla and interestingly(!?) it doesn't need pulseaudio/apulse to run - but does need GTK3.....

[EVEN LATER]the Slackware version is GTK2 friendly however it was necessary to delete some files from the TBird profile to get links in emails to work
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1354007#c9
Deleting all "places.sqlite*" files did solve the problem.....

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Apr 2017, 11:36    Post subject: Re: PulseAudio??  

peebee wrote:
[LATER] Just had a look at Thunderbird-52 downloaded from Mozilla and interestingly(!?) it doesn't need pulseaudio/apulse to run - but does need GTK3.....maybe the Slackware version will be GTK2 friendly.....

Yes the Slackware Firefox 52esr is compiled with --enable-alsa and gtk2, or at least 52.0.2esr was:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=949520#949520
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Apr 2017, 02:40    Post subject:  

Why is anyone still using Thunderbird?! It's the first thing I remove from new installations having Firefox. Sypheed looks and feels much the same without the bloat & trappings, but CLAWS is the one serious users of email choose. Notwithstanding, Puppy users may have the option of an Eudora .pet conversion in some incarnations, probably the best emailer ever devised, even though it was US-only terminology.
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Apr 2017, 02:32    Post subject: pmcputemp  

Hi peebee,

Following my 17.01.26 & now new 17.04.1,
same unresolved issue;
pmcputemp installed from PPM only shows core temperature
in system tray when initialised in terminal, but disappears again
when terminal is closed.
Shouldn't it work dynamically to "stick" after re-boot?
Regards.
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Apr 2017, 05:04    Post subject:  

Interim delta 17.04.21T

Kernel 4.10.9 and Slackware changes Sat Apr 8 16:24:35 UTC 2017

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Apr 2017, 05:19    Post subject: Re: pmcputemp  

Rodney Byne wrote:
Hi peebee,

Following my 17.01.26 & now new 17.04.1,
same unresolved issue;
pmcputemp installed from PPM only shows core temperature
in system tray when initialised in terminal, but disappears again
when terminal is closed.
Shouldn't it work dynamically to "stick" after re-boot?
Regards.

Hi RB

That pet does not seem to install itself into either /root/Startup or /root/.config/autostart ..... which does seem strange!

What you need to do is open /root/Startup in a terminal and type:
Code:
ln -s /usr/bin/pmcputemp pmcputemp
and then restart the window manager....
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Apr 2017, 06:19    Post subject: Re: pmcputemp  

PB,

Thanks for the quick reply.

Sorry I've made a mess of this, I have less than
zero coding knowledge as being just a pensioner.

I had to hand-type your command into URXVT
because its copy/paste facility is inoperative
using my scroll-wheel mouse.
None of the mouse buttons or wheel do this.

When I did type it correctly, I think it said it failed
to create a symbolic link the second time around
as I'd already created it.

Anyway the upshot is pmcputemp still doesn't
work, as the little green box should appear
immediately in the sys tray on bootup.

The other thing is I didn't know how to restart
the window manager as command not known,
so simply re-booted.
How is this done?

Could you please investigate & test much more
deeply this problem.
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