Slacko 6.3.0 (32 bit)
@zigber
Fixed symlinks in woof.
I do not intend to repackage themes as they should be usable by older jwm too.
I can not add the hack in PPM either but the puppy builder can when is using the new JWM.
If we get some reliable way to test JWM version we could make the fix conditional. Unfortunately many puppies use vgit version instead of "normal" versions so is hard to know.
Anybody knows of any jwm command to run in terminal that could distinguish the versions so it could be used as condition?
Regarding theme location, I tried to use symlinks instead of moving the files so can be used by both new and old JWM without taxing the system and it did not work. Any idea why symlinks will not work in the dialogs?
Regarding first run I'll try again tomorrow (hopefully)
Fixed symlinks in woof.
I do not intend to repackage themes as they should be usable by older jwm too.
I can not add the hack in PPM either but the puppy builder can when is using the new JWM.
If we get some reliable way to test JWM version we could make the fix conditional. Unfortunately many puppies use vgit version instead of "normal" versions so is hard to know.
Anybody knows of any jwm command to run in terminal that could distinguish the versions so it could be used as condition?
Regarding theme location, I tried to use symlinks instead of moving the files so can be used by both new and old JWM without taxing the system and it did not work. Any idea why symlinks will not work in the dialogs?
Regarding first run I'll try again tomorrow (hopefully)
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Take a look at my jwm-232 packages, both 32 and 64. In there is a test for normal or vgit jwm versions. I believe radky has tackled the problem too with his new JWMdesk.
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@zigbert
Regarding first boot: is reproducible. Fire 6.0.8.1, fix the symlinks, try to change the top tray and press apply at the end. Nothing.
Restart jwm see change in tray but no change in behaviour.
However, restart X and now tray management behaves.
Turns out that the initial absence of menu{1,2,3} "sticks" till X restart and "trips" the applet. Nothing to wary about with the correct links.
Latter: Maybe not. Again booting from CD. Install 0.4 pet. Restart X. Apply in tray management does not work.
Restart jwm manually. See the change take effect. Apply still does not worg.
Restart X again. Everything is fine.
So it would appear that after the first time the tray management dialog runs and then you restart jwm, some config is changed that takes effect after X restart.
BTW nothing in terminal or /tmp/xerrs.log
@01micko
Nice. Thanks. But as usually in linux there are other ways.
Detect zigbert's jwm_config should do. No?
Actually if either zigbert's or radky's or the next big thing works with symlinks we do not really care. Symlink /root/.jwm/themes to /usr/share/jwm/themes and we are done!
Even latter: Bingo!
Moving /root/.jwm/themes to /usr/share/jwm/themes and symlinking back to /root/.jwm/ works with radky's, jwmconfig2 or 3 and even in Precise-5.7 that I tried.
So we may need to change woof a bit for building and PPM for installing and all apps should work with all theme and jwm version
Actually if the link is there PPM change may not be needed.
Latter Latter: Bummer. Installing or removing a jwm theme with PPM destroys the symlinks.
Any chance jwm_config to work with symlinks in /usr/share/jwm/themes or better yet get the themes from /root/.jwm/themes?
Not sure what the benefits of moving themes to /usr/share/jwm/themes is other than not messing with old themes and being more "appropriate", but will save a lot of hassle if it moves back to read from /root/.jwm/themes
Waaaay latter
Maybe just keep /usr/share/jwm/ for complete pThemes but allow theme switcher to also check /root/.jwm/themes (and prioritise /usr/share if in both), would be the best solution and will require only minimal changes.
Regarding first boot: is reproducible. Fire 6.0.8.1, fix the symlinks, try to change the top tray and press apply at the end. Nothing.
Restart jwm see change in tray but no change in behaviour.
However, restart X and now tray management behaves.
Turns out that the initial absence of menu{1,2,3} "sticks" till X restart and "trips" the applet. Nothing to wary about with the correct links.
Latter: Maybe not. Again booting from CD. Install 0.4 pet. Restart X. Apply in tray management does not work.
Restart jwm manually. See the change take effect. Apply still does not worg.
Restart X again. Everything is fine.
So it would appear that after the first time the tray management dialog runs and then you restart jwm, some config is changed that takes effect after X restart.
BTW nothing in terminal or /tmp/xerrs.log
@01micko
Nice. Thanks. But as usually in linux there are other ways.
Detect zigbert's jwm_config
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[ -d /usr/share/jwm/themes ]
Actually if either zigbert's or radky's or the next big thing works with symlinks we do not really care. Symlink /root/.jwm/themes to /usr/share/jwm/themes and we are done!
Even latter: Bingo!
Moving /root/.jwm/themes to /usr/share/jwm/themes and symlinking back to /root/.jwm/ works with radky's, jwmconfig2 or 3 and even in Precise-5.7 that I tried.
So we may need to change woof a bit for building and PPM for installing and all apps should work with all theme and jwm version
Actually if the link is there PPM change may not be needed.
Latter Latter: Bummer. Installing or removing a jwm theme with PPM destroys the symlinks.
Any chance jwm_config to work with symlinks in /usr/share/jwm/themes or better yet get the themes from /root/.jwm/themes?
Not sure what the benefits of moving themes to /usr/share/jwm/themes is other than not messing with old themes and being more "appropriate", but will save a lot of hassle if it moves back to read from /root/.jwm/themes
Waaaay latter
Maybe just keep /usr/share/jwm/ for complete pThemes but allow theme switcher to also check /root/.jwm/themes (and prioritise /usr/share if in both), would be the best solution and will require only minimal changes.
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A couple more jwm_config issues (with patch .04 pet applied)
Gtk theme switcher is only accessible through the pTheme applet. Should be accessible from the main puppy desktop applet.
It is unclear what what the "clear" button does in the window buttons theme applet and more important why it restarts jwm.
Cancel in the jwm theme switcher applet restarts jwm. it should not.
OK BTW does nothing (as it should in this case).
The background icon in the icon switcher applet defaults to tilled and looks strange (check stardust blue or grey) if the wallpaper is set to (the default) "stretched". Should follow whatever is selected in the wallpaper setter or at least the default.(stretched)
(I did not have anything to add after "waaaay latter" )
A couple more jwm_config issues (with patch .04 pet applied)
Gtk theme switcher is only accessible through the pTheme applet. Should be accessible from the main puppy desktop applet.
It is unclear what what the "clear" button does in the window buttons theme applet and more important why it restarts jwm.
Cancel in the jwm theme switcher applet restarts jwm. it should not.
OK BTW does nothing (as it should in this case).
The background icon in the icon switcher applet defaults to tilled and looks strange (check stardust blue or grey) if the wallpaper is set to (the default) "stretched". Should follow whatever is selected in the wallpaper setter or at least the default.(stretched)
(I did not have anything to add after "waaaay latter" )
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Slacko 6.0.8.1 mirrored
mirrored:
slacko-6.0.8.1.iso
050a41741021445e501d39f35d11d8f2 slacko-6.0.8.1.iso
devx_slacko_6.0.8.1.sfs
1d7edf3c7a491ac5401b59938711ba3a devx_slacko_6.0.8.1.sfs
slacko-6.0.8.1.iso
050a41741021445e501d39f35d11d8f2 slacko-6.0.8.1.iso
devx_slacko_6.0.8.1.sfs
1d7edf3c7a491ac5401b59938711ba3a devx_slacko_6.0.8.1.sfs
I am sure it is like that for you, but I still can't reproduce it.mavrothal wrote:@zigbert
Regarding first boot: is reproducible. Fire 6.0.8.1, fix the symlinks, try to change the top tray and press apply at the end. Nothing.
Restart jwm see change in tray but no change in behaviour.
However, restart X and now tray management behaves.
Img shows tray management at first run of 6.0.8.1 including the jwm_config 'patch'.
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That is how it is supposed to be. All themeing is pointed to pTheme (Wallpaper is different). Puppy is heavy themable, so looking at one theme module without getting the big picture is backwards (imho). gtk-themeing is just one of many modules, and one of the reason for making pTheme was to clean up... I suggest we also remove icon-switcher from desktop menu as for gtk-switcher in the ptheme pinstall script in woof.mavrothal wrote:Gtk theme switcher is only accessible through the pTheme applet. Should be accessible from the main puppy desktop applet.
The button tooltip says: Reinstates the stock standard icons. Jwm has a builtin set of button icons. Jwm has to restart to activate these.mavrothal wrote:It is unclear what what the "clear" button does in the window buttons theme applet and more important why it restarts jwm.
A single click on one of the theme-buttons switch theme. The cancel button has to switch back to the theme used before you ran the themeswitcher - therefor restarting jwm. If you click Ok, activated theme is what the user like, and there is no reason for restarting jwm.mavrothal wrote:Cancel in the jwm theme switcher applet restarts jwm. it should not.
OK BTW does nothing (as it should in this case).
This technique is to use an image in a gtk background. The question of stretching has been raised before, and I have not seen anyone solved it. It seems that gtk only supports tiles. This is an issue for small images like startdust blue/grey. These are meant to be replaced by svg images which hasn't the same prooblem.mavrothal wrote:The background icon in the icon switcher applet defaults to tilled and looks strange (check stardust blue or grey) if the wallpaper is set to (the default) "stretched". Should follow whatever is selected in the wallpaper setter or at least the default.(stretched)
attached pet contains all previous fixes and svg backgrounds for builtin global themes. This also fixes the background in the icon-switcher.
Everything is added to Woof.
The old png wallpapers in woof should be deleted:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... ackgrounds
Everything is added to Woof.
The old png wallpapers in woof should be deleted:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... ackgrounds
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Finally made time to do a couple of test installs.Looks ok ootb, installed a few packages and no real trouble yet.
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# inxi -Fff
System: Host: puppypc15716 Kernel: 3.14.55 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.0.8.1
Machine: Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 version: Rev 1.xx serial: 150545593600028
Bios: American Megatrends version: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU: Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB
Clock Speeds: 1: 1400.00 MHz 2: 1400.00 MHz 3: 1400.00 MHz 4: 1400.00 MHz 5: 3000.00 MHz 6: 1400.00 MHz
CPU Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm aes aperfmperf apic arat avx bmi1 clflush cmov cmp_legacy
constant_tsc cpb cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de decodeassists extapic extd_apicid f16c flushbyasid
fma fma4 fpu fxsr fxsr_opt ht hw_pstate ibs lahf_lm lbrv lm lwp mca mce misalignsse mmx
mmxext monitor msr mtrr nodeid_msr nonstop_tsc npt nrip_save nx osvw pae pat pausefilter
pclmulqdq pdpe1gb perfctr_core perfctr_nb pfthreshold pge pni popcnt pse pse36 rdtscp
sep skinit sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm svm_lock syscall tbm tce topoext tsc
tsc_scale vmcb_clean vme vmmcall wdt xop xsave
Graphics: Card: Failed to Detect Video Card!
X.org: 1.14.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: vesa) tty size: 80x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio: Card-1: HDA ATI SB driver: HDA-Intel Sound: ALSA ver: k3.14.55
Card-2: HDA NVidia driver: HDA-Intel
Card-3: pcsp driver: PC-Speaker
Network: Card: Failed to Detect Network Card!
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1120.2GB (2.4% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB
Partition: ID: swap-1 size: 8.60GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
RAID: No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info: Processes: 126 Uptime: 11 min Memory: 213.1/2953.8MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.17
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@01micko
ndiswrapper in slacko-6.0.8.1 worked initially followed by what seemed to be lack of persistency on reboots The last 3 reboots seem to be ok, so I'm watching.
Changed cursor OK, but there are issues with desktop manager as shown in accompanying screenshots.
Expected right-click at the desktop to launch Menu but it didn't..On first attempt to rectify that, I got an error, but it worked after exiting. Reverted to non-operational mode since then.
Tried to get the bright menu instead of zigbert's favourite 'stardust', but again an error about settings.
All for now.
[EDIT 10/29]
ndiswrapper continues to work Persistent between reboots.
The patch fixed the other problems. Surprised about the change to mouse middle button for Menu.
ndiswrapper in slacko-6.0.8.1 worked initially followed by what seemed to be lack of persistency on reboots The last 3 reboots seem to be ok, so I'm watching.
Changed cursor OK, but there are issues with desktop manager as shown in accompanying screenshots.
Expected right-click at the desktop to launch Menu but it didn't..On first attempt to rectify that, I got an error, but it worked after exiting. Reverted to non-operational mode since then.
Tried to get the bright menu instead of zigbert's favourite 'stardust', but again an error about settings.
All for now.
[EDIT 10/29]
ndiswrapper continues to work Persistent between reboots.
The patch fixed the other problems. Surprised about the change to mouse middle button for Menu.
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Re: Slacko 6.0.8.1
I built this tonight, did a manual frugal install to a usb-3.0 hard01micko wrote: This version is built from woof-CE testing branch commit 4c1f96e and is fully reproducible. See this thread for more on building slacko.
drive, pc is an Acer laptop:
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Thu 29 Oct 2015 on Slacko Puppy 6.0.8.1 Linux 3.14.54 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.14.3
dimensions: 1366x768 pixels (361x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.1 (Core Profile) Mesa 9.1.7
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3227U CPU @ 1.90GHz
Core 0: @1067 1: @937 2: @906 3: @824 MHz
I added applications with PPM and installed some pets.
My Broadcom Corporation BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n isn't supported but
that's the only problem so far.
Thanks.
Edit: I did a manual frugal install to a usb-3.0 hard drive on my HP desktop.
There is no 32bit zarfy available but this line saved as 2monitors.sh
and placed in /root/startup does the job on this desktop:
xrandr --auto --output HDMI2 --mode 1920x1080 --left-of HDMI1
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From just 2 posts above yours, install patch_jwm_config-0.5.pet (or any of the previous 4 versions here)B.K. Johnson wrote: Expected right-click at the desktop to launch Menu but it didn't..On first attempt to rectify that, I got an error, but it worked after exiting. Reverted to non-operational mode since then
BTW @zigbert, 0.5 has ironed out most bugs
The only thing I think it should be fixed for "production" is the disappearance of the try if a hide position other than appearing position is selected. Ideally only on/of should be offered. So the AUTOHIDE variable (on/off) should rather call a function that in case of "on" would evaluate /root/.jwm/tmp/tray_{VALIGN.HALIGN,DIRECTION_VER,DIRECTION_HOR} and set top/bottom/left/right properly in tray_AUTOHIDE.
@01micko (@zigbert), I thought I noticed a recent change in wallapaper pet version, in case this was before this built, the default tree widget when you open the app in NOT from /usr/share/backgrounds but from /root. Also (or because of that?) when you press clear the entire desktop is wiped out including background, icons, and drives! Installing one of the default themes reinstates everything.
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Ok.. can do.zigbert wrote:The old png wallpapers in woof should be deleted:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... ackgrounds
However.. should "Stardust bright.svg" and "Stardust dark.svg" each have a space in the naming?
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I made a trivial change to the wallpaper app (68c094b) that supports svg, only 1 line changed. The default should open at /usr/share/backgrounds. The package is wallpaper-0.6.5.pet.mavrothal wrote:@01micko (@zigbert), I thought I noticed a recent change in wallapaper pet version, in case this was before this built, the default tree widget when you open the app in NOT from /usr/share/backgrounds but from /root. Also (or because of that?) when you press clear the entire desktop is wiped out including background, icons, and drives! Installing one of the default themes reinstates everything.
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Slacko 6.0.8.1 (32 bit)
I test since this morning.
Globally it works well, users will appreciate.
Not user friendly: right/Middle click at the desktop to launch Menu = nothing is happening.
I continue testing...
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Not user friendly: right/Middle click at the desktop to launch Menu = nothing is happening.
I continue testing...
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Downloaded ISO, extracted initrd.gz, vmlinuz, puppy sfs, zdrv sfs into a directory and set grub4dos menu to point to that ...etc. Booted and played around with the themes etc for a while and then wasn't able to switch back to the brighter menu theme ... error as per the attached image.
Not seeing my via Rhine ethernet.
Desktop middle/right clicks not bringing up menu.
Not seeing my via Rhine ethernet.
Desktop middle/right clicks not bringing up menu.
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