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slavvo67

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 01:36    Post subject:  

My first go with Trusty Tahr not very impressive. Issues with the initial pop-up to choose network and setup. Also, Frisbee didn't seem to install or install properly. Screen also cut-off on top. I didn't take notes on this one. It was my first go so certainly subject to user error. Anyway, moving forward....
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 01:44    Post subject:  

Good on you slavvo67 for having a go. (Of course you too musher0 Smile )

At least with some feedback we can attempt to fix bugs.

Cheers

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musher0

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 03:00    Post subject:  

Thanks for the thanks, Mick.

Browsing the web with no particular aim, I found this, which I think could be
a motto for this thread. Wink Or not!

"Every dog thinks her puppies are the cutest." (American proverb)
From: http://oaks.nvg.org/amea.html

TWYL.

musher0

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 07:16    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
Hello again.

At the build iso question, I answered "(space)ENTER", but it still went
ahead with burning. Although the script said: "type any character then
Enter if you don't want to burn."

I thought (space) was a valid ASCII character!

Luckily I'm a character too, and my dvd was unusable. Twisted Evil
(Don't look for any relevance, there isn't any!)

The script also warned me that Bacon dev was not in the devx, with some
instructions how to include it. A bit late now, I'd say! Rolling Eyes while it's
squishing the devx.

This is lots of fun! Sad

musher0


./3builddistro wrote:
Would you like to burn it to a CD?
ENTER only for yes, or any printable char then ENTER not to:


I've never been able to print a space Razz (underline is mine)

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 12:14    Post subject:  

Yeah, same category as one-hand clapping, I guess. Sorry I misread.
(Edit: and a transparent icon.)

Still, a (space) character does exist as Dec 32, Hx 20, etc. (please see
top of 2nd column, here).

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 13:05    Post subject:  

@01micko:

To get past the X display failure in puduan, do you think I should remaster
adding more display or video-card drivers in the X modules ? If so, where
in the woof git or elsewhere would I find these drivers?

Thanks in advance.

musher0
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 14:40    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
@01micko:

To get past the X display failure in puduan, do you think I should remaster
adding more display or video-card drivers in the X modules ? If so, where
in the woof git or elsewhere would I find these drivers?

Thanks in advance.

musher0
hi musher,

first thing i would check is if jwm's dependencies are met .... once booted to the prompt ldd /usr/bin/jwm
if anything's is missing reboot create a savefolder ...then manually add the dependencies if any ... just so you can get to X and check your new pup out.

if jwm is ok ...... i use this script to find anything that's missing...i usually put it in /root of my test builds so i can run it from the prompt if X doesn't start.
i'll also run it even if X does start to check for any missing bits'n'bobs
Code:
#!/bin/sh
#  2004/08/22  K. Piche  Find missing library references.
ifs=$IFS
IFS=':'

libdirs="/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib"
extras="/usr/local/bin"

#  Check ELF binaries in the PATH and specified dir trees.
for tree in $PATH $libdirs $extras
do
        echo DIR $tree

        #  Get list of files in tree.
        files=$(find $tree -type f)
        IFS=$ifs
        for i in $files
        do
                if [ `file $i | grep -c 'ELF'` -ne 0 ]; then
                        #  Is an ELF binary.
                        if [ `ldd $i 2>/dev/null | grep -c 'not found'` -ne 0 ]; then
                                #  Missing lib.
                                echo "$i:"
                                ldd $i 2>/dev/null | grep 'not found'
                        fi
                fi
        done
done

exit

send it to a text file so you can read it from a working pup
Code:
sh /path/to/script > /root/missing.txt


missing stuff can then be added to the DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS file.

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 14:46    Post subject:  

Many thanks, 666philb. I'll try that out.
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 16:44    Post subject:  

Hello, all.

Oh, sh...t! I'm in! Thanks again, phil.

jwm needed libjpeg, libfribidi libraries (from ldd reading). As you
suspected, it was not an X thing.

ldd reported libfribidi.so.8 missing, but I found no libfribidi version by that
name. It's actually a lib provided by package from the Jessie repo,
libfribidi0_0.19.6-3_i386.deb. Version # is libfribidi.so.0.3.5.

The ugly problem of no real pupsave creation showed up its head again
in puduan. I had to create the pupsave with my own script externally.

That got me in X with jwm. But
    * no on-screen menu, just the tray one,
    __ and no program can run from it
    * gtk-pixbuf script says it needs libjbig.so.0,
    __ which I just injected in the "puduansave" file.
BTW, there is an actual "Puduan" company in Shangai that makes forklifts.
(c) problems a possibility for use of this name in a Puppy?

Since there's still a long distance to travel before a "DevuanJessiePup" or
whatever name can be offered, I think a new thread would be in order, I
don't want to hijack this one. --> Unless what I'm reporting here is
general enough to be of help for other woof-CE builders.
<--
Your input on this: appreciated.

TWYL.

musher0 out

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 17:13    Post subject:  

@all that may be concerned:

Here are the results for "DpupJessie" aka "puduan", obtained by running K.
Piché's missing lib finder script provided by 666philb above.

TWYL.

musher0
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Edit, 10 minutes later: Just added an abstract in alphabetical order.
Although still lengthy, this list is much more reasonable. Now where to find
these little creatures... Logical place would be the Jessie repo, I suppose.
LibsNotFound.txt.gz
Description  I ran the file below with grep not | sort | uniq and got this abstract.
gz

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Filename  LibsNotFound.txt.gz 
Filesize  423 Bytes 
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MissingLibs-JessiePup.Report.gz
Description 
gz

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Filename  MissingLibs-JessiePup.Report.gz 
Filesize  2.11 KB 
Downloaded  150 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 18:45    Post subject:  

Hello all.

If it may speed development of the Jessie part of woof -- or just if you
somehow need these libs --, please find attached the list of libs found in
saintless & Co.'s DebianDog-Jessie.

I don't know if it's ok to do it like that, but it's saving a lot of time.

I've transfered them to the interim puduan pupsave file. For your
convience, here is a download URL for this pupsave containing the libs
found in saintless' DDog-Jessie.
-- https://www.adrive.com/public/tZYvuk/puduansave-arf.2fs.lzo --

Now to hunt down the other half! Laughing

BFN.

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LibsFoundDDog.txt.gz
Description  About half of the libs required for "puduan" were found in saintless'
DDog-Jessie. Here is the list of these libs that were found in his iso.
gz

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Filename  LibsFoundDDog.txt.gz 
Filesize  447 Bytes 
Downloaded  152 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 18:53    Post subject:  

Iguleder wrote:
bigpup wrote:
Is there something that explains how to use Woof-CE?


Yes, the first post. I gave you the exact command lines to run, what else do you need?


The last 4 pages of this topic explains my point better than anything!!

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 19:23    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Iguleder wrote:
bigpup wrote:
Is there something that explains how to use Woof-CE?


Yes, the first post. I gave you the exact command lines to run, what else do you need?


The last 4 pages of this topic explains my point better than anything!!


You gentlemen need a choice of arms? Traditional American pistols?
Pirate sabres? Or do you prefer Italian close-combat daggers? Smile You'll
also need a very remote location -- may I suggest a clearing in
Nottingham Forest, in the U.K. (the setting is quite historical). And at
least one witness each... Laughing

Let it be, bigpup. Iguleder is right in the sense that indeed it all starts
with the little script he provided on p. 1.

The last four pages are flesh on the bone, IMO. While the script is almost
automatic, one could easily write a 100-page manual about the details
of the woof process and the reasons behind all the implicit choices in it.
But it all starts there.

Still friends? Smile TWYL.

musher0

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 20:14    Post subject:  

It looks like during the create packages mode, the scripts were looking for packages in /root, while my Woof-CE was/is in sda2. There seemed to be quite a few script errors during the create packages and builddistro-Z and I'm not sure if some where just normal and could just be ignored and what where true issues.

I believe my best recourse is to start the whole process fresh again from ./0setup and move forward from there.

I still got pretty far, as the 6.0.2 booted. About an inch off the top was rendered screen, the initial setup screen, the buttons for setup and internet connection could not be chosen.

Working on round 2.....
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Oct 2015, 21:27    Post subject:  

@slavvo67
I guess this was a busy week-end for both of us, eh? Smile
Good luck with round 2!

@all:
Here is the 2nd truckload of ready-made not-missing-anymore libs for
"DpupJessie" aka "puduan".
-- https://www.adrive.com/public/KjqbSB/puduan-libs-part2.zip --
Again with a view to speed up development: they're authentic Debian
distro files and they're there if you need them.

The following is the site to download Debian Jessie packages from if
you're not using apt or ppm:
-- https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages --
All packages of the 2nd truckload were downloaded from there, except
the libLLVM package, which was downloaded from pkgs.org.

Fingers crossed and ready to go: I've incorporated the 2nd truckload of
libs to the pupsave file. I actually got a few apps running after the 1st
truckload. We'll see how it goes this time...

BFN.

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