Recently amigo posted his [snipped] views.....
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 922#544922The original purpose of the proposed PLUG was mainly to get a unified voice which could represent Puppy users before the developers. That is not really a bad idea, but it depends on the developers being willing to listen and take the users wishes into account. I have seen no indication, so far, that any of them are willing to do that -and I'm pretty sure I know why. It's simple. Users have no idea what their suggestions might entail. Devs are usually either uninterested in the ideas, or don't have the skills to implement them. And explaining why that is so to a 'user' is already a huge waste of time.
....on WhoDo's suggestion for PLUG....
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=68265
...for a Puppy Linux Users Group, a go-between twixt users and devs, [and some] which has been kicked around the forum since the end of May, but which just won't lay down....like all healthy, lively pups
After several starts, including a recent near massacre, John M has stated that he'll allow the forum to have a PLUG Section/sub-sections
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 217#543217
and said,
To facilitate the ideas thusfar, see the suggestions outlined in my post hereJohn M wrote:I do believe that it is a useful concept going forward for the Puppy ecosystem as whole
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 505#543505
So, in order to move forward with this idea, we need to start by finding out - Who you are, and what you can/cannot do. Please list your specialities as well as limitations, and perhaps some ideas to inform users how they can better help you
I know many of you are doing sterling work, to name but a few, not in any particular order,
playdayz, 01micko, ttuuxxx, big_bass and amigo, runtt21 and prit1, puppyluvr, Sylvander, Scottman, Iguleder, mu, raffy, dougal, jemimah, John Biles, pizzasgood, pemasu, rerwin, tempestuous, CatDude, dejan555, trio, tasmod, Flash, trapster, crash, aragon, sunburnt, rcrsn51, muggins, zigbert, Bruce B, Béèm, magerlab, nyu, YoN, shinobar, clarf, 8-bit, thunor, sickgut, tazoc, sheepy, battleshooter, and all those who I haven't mentioned, including those in the non-English sections, - what a team!!
....PLEASE come forward ....and take a bow , you're going in my soon to be posted 'Unsung Heroes List' - once I have added some more names! [Might even add Barry K and John M lol]
Most of you already doing OS work, have testers/fans, so already have a user interface,
....but what don't you have time to say, or not want to post in your threads - how CAN we help you, if we don't know?
After all a dev cannot live by 'this doesn't work's alone....kudos is needed for maintaining energy and integrity, and people may simply not have come across your work
Would you the Puppy DEVS, for example, be interested in a Top5 ...
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 120#545120
...list of suggestions, which could include a DEV's Top5 btw, and would you give feedback to a Users Group spokesperson - AFAIK, both playdayz and 01micko have expressed an interest/support [confirmation please, guys ]
In my reply to amigo's comment,
...I suggested that I understood what he was saying, but thought,'it depends on the developers being willing to listen and take the users wishes into account. I have seen no indication, so far, that any of them are willing to do that....'
'Heck, has anyone actually asked? I don't recall seeing it recently....Lot's of theories, but DEV's views...?'
So here I am, asking...
Your input towards this goal of all-round improvements to the Puppy Experience, as in both the Top5's and PLUG's thread, would be greatly appreciated, thanks, guys'n'gals
Note: This post/thread will hopefully be copied to the PLUG Section, once it's set up, for collation and updating of this vital information
Aitch