Librepup 6.0.2.2
"Yes, it's incredibly slow. I think the right thing to do is to replace it with some lightweight browser (NetSurf?), because Abrowser is quite big (so I don't want to maintain a PET package for it) and IceCat is slow. "
In linuxBBQ many of the basic spins use links2 and yes Icecat is horribly slow and so is newer Firefoxes and Iceweasel, but Icecat is definately the slowest. Pity Iceape didn't survive.
Qupzilla seems pretty solid. Licence info: http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Qupzilla
In linuxBBQ many of the basic spins use links2 and yes Icecat is horribly slow and so is newer Firefoxes and Iceweasel, but Icecat is definately the slowest. Pity Iceape didn't survive.
Qupzilla seems pretty solid. Licence info: http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Qupzilla
Good and not-so-good feedback
First the good news: boots to a working desktop on my AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 260 Processor with nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] graphics using both the nouveau and modesetting drivers.
2 bits of not-so-good feeback:
1. sfs-load doesn't work (neither thru the menu nor by clicking on an .sfs file)
2. wifi needs proprietary firmware - copying firmware from tahrpup doesn't seem to work - whats the recommended route to get wifi working??
Both rather "show-stoppers" I think. I would question whether loading a manufacturers firmware onto their device really violates the "free" principle - lots of devices have firmware embedded and seem to be acceptable, just because wifi has downloadable firmware that is freely available how does that violate the free principle???
Cheers
peebee
2 bits of not-so-good feeback:
1. sfs-load doesn't work (neither thru the menu nor by clicking on an .sfs file)
2. wifi needs proprietary firmware - copying firmware from tahrpup doesn't seem to work - whats the recommended route to get wifi working??
Both rather "show-stoppers" I think. I would question whether loading a manufacturers firmware onto their device really violates the "free" principle - lots of devices have firmware embedded and seem to be acceptable, just because wifi has downloadable firmware that is freely available how does that violate the free principle???
Cheers
peebee
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LxPup = Puppy + LXDE
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
It would also appear that PuppyLibre fails to mount sfs files,not only with sfs_load but in general. Mountin by clicking (filemnt) or in the terminal with "mount -o loop (-t squashfs)' fail. Even during boot devx fails to mount.
This is not a busybox or losetup issue but rather 'mount' per se that fails to mount sfs files.
However the main sfs and zdrv sfs mount fine in the init. devx fails
That is a show stopper if it is actually the case.
Latter: FALSE ALARM . Turns out that the devx I was trying to load was corrupt.
Re-downloaded from the original site and now filemnt and loading by the init works fine.
This is not a busybox or losetup issue but rather 'mount' per se that fails to mount sfs files.
However the main sfs and zdrv sfs mount fine in the init. devx fails
That is a show stopper if it is actually the case.
Latter: FALSE ALARM . Turns out that the devx I was trying to load was corrupt.
Re-downloaded from the original site and now filemnt and loading by the init works fine.
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I loaded up my 64 bit kernel (4.1.8 ) built in slacko and sfs_load works justmavrothal wrote:It
would also appear that PuppyLibre fails to mount sfs files,not only
with sfs_load but in general. Mountin by clicking (filemnt) or in the
terminal with "mount -o loop (-t squashfs)' fail. Even during boot devx
fails to mount.
This is not a busybox or losetup issue but rather 'mount' per se that
fails to mount sfs files.
Howeve,r the main sfs and zdrv sfs mount fine in the init. devx fails
That is a show stopper if it is actually the case.
fine. Loaded the devx from a right click and libreoffice from the main
gui. Both work, no issues in limited short term testing.
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With the shipped kernel my radeon hardware booted to desktop but I had
poor resolution. Quicksetup said I had ATI driver loaded but I don't
think so. I'm pretty sure it was modesetting driver. I'll have to
reinstate the stock kernel and check this and do a dmesg as to why
things were a bit ugly (I manually added the radeon firmware that my
card needs). With the new kernel it booted straight to the proper
resolution, and the console resolution noticeably changed (as it does
for KMS drivers).
Thanks Dima.
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@peebee. Any firmware that the source code isn't available for isn't
"free". I hope that helps.
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There's a bug in sfs_load - it needs to use uname -r | cut -f 1 -d \-, not uname -r.
EDIT: there you go - these packages will be included in the next release.
PPM fix: urxvt-9.21.pet
sfs_load fix: sfs_load-2.3-1.pet
JWM theme: jwm_theme_librepup-1.pet
Wallpaper: librepup_wallpapers-1.pet
EDIT: there you go - these packages will be included in the next release.
PPM fix: urxvt-9.21.pet
sfs_load fix: sfs_load-2.3-1.pet
JWM theme: jwm_theme_librepup-1.pet
Wallpaper: librepup_wallpapers-1.pet
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Works fineIguleder wrote: PPM fix: urxvt-9.21.pet
You may want to use sfs_load 2.3.2 as bases for the mod as it can also handle PUPMODE 6Iguleder wrote:sfs_load fix: sfs_load-2.3-1.pet
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Hello all.
If it may be of interest to someone: the sfs section in the traditional
"boot manager" worked for me, even if the sfs_load didn't (in non-
updated librepup). I was able to load the devx and my java sfs.
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Presently, I have a no-keyboard LibrePup. I re-ran xorgwizard and
clicked "ATI" (this old boat is equipped with an semi-old ati agp card),
and rebooted, ran the advanced kbd config script, and bye-bye
keyboard...
In French we have a proverb: "The better is the enemy of the ok."
(I'm funny that way, trying to prove French proverbs...)
Writing this in a different pup, obviously.
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Will try the updates as soon as I smash this no-keyboard problem.
BFN.
If it may be of interest to someone: the sfs section in the traditional
"boot manager" worked for me, even if the sfs_load didn't (in non-
updated librepup). I was able to load the devx and my java sfs.
~~~~~~~
Presently, I have a no-keyboard LibrePup. I re-ran xorgwizard and
clicked "ATI" (this old boat is equipped with an semi-old ati agp card),
and rebooted, ran the advanced kbd config script, and bye-bye
keyboard...
In French we have a proverb: "The better is the enemy of the ok."
(I'm funny that way, trying to prove French proverbs...)
Writing this in a different pup, obviously.
~~~~~~~
Will try the updates as soon as I smash this no-keyboard problem.
BFN.
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Librepup 6.0.2.0
Manual frugal installation to a 16gb flash drive, pc is a Gateway desktop.
I added kdegames,arandr,lxterminal,and gkrellm in PPM.
Compiled Links-2.1.2 and Cmus 2.7.1
It's working okay so far.
I added kdegames,arandr,lxterminal,and gkrellm in PPM.
Compiled Links-2.1.2 and Cmus 2.7.1
It's working okay so far.
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Qupzilla downloaded effortlessly from PPM (once I installed the ne urxvt pet).
The only issue with it, apart from that it's an old version (1.6.0, they are up to 1.8.3 which I compiled and works in slacko, so should here) is tha you get the SSL certificate errors. i suppose a new package should be made for SSL certificates and made available for all puppies.
Here's the deps... not much really
Also Osmo is broken - misses libical.so.0 and libicalss.so.0. Installing libical1 from PPM works but the *.so.0 symlinks are missing. Maybe the true fix is to recompile osmo on librepup (will of course still need libical1).
HTH
The only issue with it, apart from that it's an old version (1.6.0, they are up to 1.8.3 which I compiled and works in slacko, so should here) is tha you get the SSL certificate errors. i suppose a new package should be made for SSL certificates and made available for all puppies.
Here's the deps... not much really
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libgstreamer1.0-0_1.2.4|Core GStreamer libraries and elements
libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0_1.2.4-1|GStreamer libraries from the base set
libqtwebkit4_2.3.2|Web content engine library for Qt
libqupzilla1_1.6.0-1|shared library and header files for qupzilla
qupzilla_1.6.0-1|lightweight web browser based on libqtwebkit
HTH
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latest QupZilla
Firstly do this:
Install it. This is the latest SSL ca certificates built more or less on the slackbuild but in my build system. I'll upload the changes soon.
Once that is installed, install the Qupzilla deps as outlined in my previous post from PPM. You may ( ) also need qt4-linguist-tools (search PPM). It was a build dependency but may be needed for runtime(edit: probably not needed at runtime - see ldd output below), I'm not sure. You don't need libqupzilla .. it's builtin to the qupzilla package I built.
here are the Qt deps from ldd:
Then, you can wget from my site and the certificates will be checked.
So to grab Qupzilla run this (it's only 2MB ):
and if you need translations
yes, I could have provided direct links but a little CLI never hurt anyone.
Enjoy
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Firstly do this:
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wget https://01micko.com/libre/ca-certificates-20150426-noarch_all.pet --no-check-certificate
Once that is installed, install the Qupzilla deps as outlined in my previous post from PPM. You may ( ) also need qt4-linguist-tools (search PPM). It was a build dependency but may be needed for runtime(edit: probably not needed at runtime - see ldd output below), I'm not sure. You don't need libqupzilla .. it's builtin to the qupzilla package I built.
here are the Qt deps from ldd:
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ldd `which qupzilla`|grep -i 'qt'
libQtWebKit.so.4 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtWebKit.so.4 (0xf5254000)
libQtGui.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0xf47a0000)
libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0xf44b8000)
libQtDBus.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4 (0xf3e50000)
libQtScript.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtScript.so.4 (0xf3bd0000)
libQtSql.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4 (0xf3b90000)
libQtNetwork.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4 (0xf3a49000)
libQtOpenGL.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtOpenGL.so.4 (0xf3264000)
libQtXml.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtXml.so.4 (0xf3048000)
So to grab Qupzilla run this (it's only 2MB ):
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wget https://01micko.com/libre/QupZilla-1.8.6-i686_libre.pet
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wget https://01micko.com/libre/QupZilla_NLS-1.8.6-i686_libre.pet
Enjoy
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0ee6524c5a5500d54e57c1c164ae6504 ca-certificates-20150426-noarch_all.pet
ffdc78c2234fc609a3c302b2566bdf6d QupZilla-1.8.6-i686_libre.pet
697985d114f7e3249a32c034d56277ba QupZilla_NLS-1.8.6-i686_libre.pet
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@musher0 and @iguleder,
musher0's ATI problem might be the kernel config. I noticed this:
CONFIG_AGP=y
# CONFIG_AGP_ALI is not set
# CONFIG_AGP_ATI is not set ######### THIS ONE?
# CONFIG_AGP_AMD is not set
CONFIG_AGP_AMD64=y
CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y
# CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA is not set
CONFIG_AGP_SIS=m
# CONFIG_AGP_SWORKS is not set
CONFIG_AGP_VIA=y
musher0's ATI problem might be the kernel config. I noticed this:
CONFIG_AGP=y
# CONFIG_AGP_ALI is not set
# CONFIG_AGP_ATI is not set ######### THIS ONE?
# CONFIG_AGP_AMD is not set
CONFIG_AGP_AMD64=y
CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y
# CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA is not set
CONFIG_AGP_SIS=m
# CONFIG_AGP_SWORKS is not set
CONFIG_AGP_VIA=y
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Thanks for the research, Mick.
Could be; looks logical. I recreated a pupsave file and "poured" in it
whatever was in yesterday's one, EXCEPT the xorg.conf.
The probably default xorg.conf that works is attached. Stangely, the card
section is commented out.
I don't know if this proves anything or not, but I have librepup-6020 back
on track with keyboard input restored.
BFN.
musher0
Could be; looks logical. I recreated a pupsave file and "poured" in it
whatever was in yesterday's one, EXCEPT the xorg.conf.
The probably default xorg.conf that works is attached. Stangely, the card
section is commented out.
I don't know if this proves anything or not, but I have librepup-6020 back
on track with keyboard input restored.
BFN.
musher0
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Ok @musher0. Probably be interesting to see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
Anyway... are you game to try my Qupzilla build? I hope the instructions are clear enough. It is quite fast. Let me know if there are problems. One might be that you still have to put '--no-check-certificate' on the wget command.
Anyway... are you game to try my Qupzilla build? I hope the instructions are clear enough. It is quite fast. Let me know if there are problems. One might be that you still have to put '--no-check-certificate' on the wget command.
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Hi, Mick.
No such log in /var/log, sorry, neither in yesterday's pupsave (the one
with the broken keyboard conf), nor in today's (the ok one).
I was thinking of spending a quiet Sunday evening, but ok, ok, I'll try
your incarnation of qupzilla. BTW, I have produced a qupzilla
package too, you know, but for PPrecise-5.4.3.
There's a rare nature show in my area tonight: what's called "Harvest
Moon", this year with an eclipse. I'd hate to miss it.
So moon eclipse first, qupzilla test second.
BFN.
musher0
No such log in /var/log, sorry, neither in yesterday's pupsave (the one
with the broken keyboard conf), nor in today's (the ok one).
I was thinking of spending a quiet Sunday evening, but ok, ok, I'll try
your incarnation of qupzilla. BTW, I have produced a qupzilla
package too, you know, but for PPrecise-5.4.3.
There's a rare nature show in my area tonight: what's called "Harvest
Moon", this year with an eclipse. I'd hate to miss it.
So moon eclipse first, qupzilla test second.
BFN.
musher0
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Hmmm.. correct.. no log, oh well. That needs fixing.
Go and enjoy your moon!
Go and enjoy your moon!
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Thanks James.
I did notice an issue. HTML5 audio/video is not working. I got it sorted in slacko64 with the good, the bad and the ugly gst-plugins... but I just broke my pupsave in librepup so can't sort that for now.
I was running a 64 bit kernel and decided to change to a 32 so my build system would work properly (relies on uname -r for naming) and while the zdrv seems loaded, none of the modules are responsive; tried to switch back to the 64 kernel and the same thing. Seems like a new woof bug to me, can't be sure.
Anyway, I'm building a kernel in libre and will sort out qupzilla sooner or later
I did notice an issue. HTML5 audio/video is not working. I got it sorted in slacko64 with the good, the bad and the ugly gst-plugins... but I just broke my pupsave in librepup so can't sort that for now.
I was running a 64 bit kernel and decided to change to a 32 so my build system would work properly (relies on uname -r for naming) and while the zdrv seems loaded, none of the modules are responsive; tried to switch back to the 64 kernel and the same thing. Seems like a new woof bug to me, can't be sure.
Anyway, I'm building a kernel in libre and will sort out qupzilla sooner or later
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It works.01micko wrote:latest
QupZilla
Here is my "minimal" install.
from PPM install:
(deps are taken care of)libgstreamer-plugins-base
libqtwebkit4
Then
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wget https://01micko.com/libre/ca-certificates-20150426-noarch_all.pet --no-check-certificatewget
wget https://01micko.com/libre/QupZilla-1.8.6-i686_libre.pet
petget ca-certificates-20150426-noarch_all.pet
petget QupZilla-1.8.6-i686_libre.pet
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Librepup 6.0.2.0
I moved my flash drive installation to an HP desktop pc:
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 28 Sep 2015 on Librepup 6.0.2.0 Linux 3.14-librepup i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.1
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 10.1.3
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Core 0: @1695 1: @1682 2: @1692 3: @1697 MHz
I installed 01micko's Qupzilla and ca-certificate pets (thanks), also installed
the flashplayer plugin.
It's working well.
Edit: Here's the Cmus pet if anyone would like it, the link is for Cmus documentation.
http://www.tuxarena.com/static/cmus_guide.php
Edit: Nexuiz242 works great.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 28 Sep 2015 on Librepup 6.0.2.0 Linux 3.14-librepup i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.1
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 10.1.3
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Core 0: @1695 1: @1682 2: @1692 3: @1697 MHz
I installed 01micko's Qupzilla and ca-certificate pets (thanks), also installed
the flashplayer plugin.
It's working well.
Edit: Here's the Cmus pet if anyone would like it, the link is for Cmus documentation.
http://www.tuxarena.com/static/cmus_guide.php
Edit: Nexuiz242 works great.
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