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.pet downloads: what partition types?
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Mike7


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PostPosted: Mon 21 Sep 2015, 13:15    Post subject:  .pet downloads: what partition types?  

Hi, All.

Don't know if this is the right forum, my apologies if not. Query: What partition types can be used for .pet downloads?

I'm running Carolite-1.2 from a 16G flash drive partitioned:
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/dev/sdb1     ext2    3.9G  658M  3.1G  18% /initrd/mnt/dev_save
/dev/sdb2     vfat    9.8G  2.5G  7.4G  25% /mnt/sdb2
plus a 1G swap partition.

I've been keeping all my own files in sdb2 (vfat) in order to keep down the save file size and make saves quick. I've also been downloading .pets, ISOs, and tar.xz files to a directory in sdb2 (vfat). Is that okay, or do these files have to be downloaded to, as well as run from, an ext partition?

Thanks.

Miike

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Sep 2015, 15:37    Post subject:  

Download them wherever you like, but don't extract them there as FAT amd NTFS don't support symlinks.
Also, if you have problems after downloading to a path with a space in it you have found a bug which you should report.

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Sep 2015, 06:39    Post subject:  

Hi, disciple.

Thanks for your help with this question. I will do as you suggest: download them to the sdb2/vfat partition, then copy them over to sdb1/ext2 when I want to extract and/or execute them. (That's what you are advising, right?)

I have never yet seen this bug of the path with a space in it, but will report it if I do.

M.

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Sep 2015, 22:33    Post subject:  

Quote:
or execute them.

From any location,
You can left click on a pet package to install it.

All the pet installer does is read the package data and installs it into Puppy.
All the operations of installing the pet package are done inside the running Puppy, which is an active Linux file system.

Hope you understand you are doing this from a Running Puppy.

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Sep 2015, 16:04    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:

From any location, You can left click on a pet package to install it. . . Hope you understand you are doing this from a Running Puppy.

I'm still a little unclear about this. Are you saying that I can download a .pet to a vfat partition and run it from there, to install it into the pup that's running from the booted ext partition (rather than putting it into the ext partition and installing it from there)?

Sorry of I'm being difficult. I think I understand the logic of what you're saying (that as long as the .pet is installed by and into the same running system, it should work). It just seems a little strange that it can be read correctly from a vfat partition.

Plus what you say doesn't jibe with what disciple wrote.

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Sep 2015, 16:26    Post subject:  

Hello, Mike7.

There's no contradiction: to extract a file is not the same as to run or
execute a file.

You can extract a Linux package on a windows or dos partition. Problem
is... important symlinks, if there are any, will be lost if you extract the
Puppy package (or any Linux package) there.

On the other hand, when you run a *.pet package stored from a windows
or dos partition, it is immediately "gobbled up" by your running Puppy in
the Puppy's RAM, it's not stored on any disk.

A *.pet package is like a *.zip archive. It can be stored anywhere, you
can list the contents, any inactive process is ok.

But to run it, you have to run it from a Puppy.

The same is true in reverse: you can store a Windows *.zip package
anywhere on your Puppy, but you won't be able to run it. You can unpack
it, but if it has windows-type links in it, they will be lost too.

Linux and WhineDose both have a link function, but they implement it
differently: links from one system are incompatible on the other.

I hope this gets you un-stuck? Smile

BFN.

musher0

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Mike7


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PostPosted: Thu 24 Sep 2015, 16:35    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
when you run a *.pet package stored from a windows
or dos partition, it is immediately "gobbled up" by your running Puppy in
the Puppy's RAM

Okay, I guess that's why it doesn't matter where it's being run from. As long as it's being "run", it's being run in Puppy.

M.

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