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labbe5

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:48    Post subject:  Ashley Madison data breach  

The Ashley Madison data breach is one reminder how important privacy is, as well as encryption.

Police has linked some suicides to the data breach, and an unprecedented effort is going on to catch the hacker(s) responsible, to face stiff justice.

The company behind Ashley Madison is facing lawsuit, because of this scandalous data breach, resulting from improper protection of private personal data.
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LeithR

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:54    Post subject:  

I agree that this was a terrible breach of security but I find it difficult to be sympathetic to the users of the site.
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PostPosted: Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:48    Post subject:  

PLUS 1

No one wants it to happen at a bank or a store, but it happens. And I understand the aggrivation, I think such things have happened to a great majority of internet users... and yet no one from those "entities" have faced iron bars for their third-party insecure "friends". Now we want justice for those who scandalize marrriage, not just the personal ID and wallet. Someone needs a clue Sherlock.

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starhawk

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:58    Post subject:  

I find it rather easy to be sympathetic. The data breach was not something these users wanted, expected, or were made aware was possible. They did not put themselves in that particular compromising position -- only the people who stole and then released/publicized the data are responsible for that.

Yes, it causes complications in the users' lives, due to actions of their own that they are responsible for -- but that is an entirely secondary effect to their information and deeds being spread around the Internet.

As a side note, the proper term in this context is not 'hacker' but rather 'cracker'. See here, on The Jargon File, which is well respected, at least amongst those who know of it --> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cracker.html
Contrast with this definition of 'hacker', same source --> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html
Secondary source, more long-winded: http://www.geek.com/forums/topic/hacking-and-cracking/
Tertiary source, also rather windbaggy in comparison: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/hacker-vs-cracker/

Terminology is an incredibly important thing to use correctly, along with the rest of your language, whatever it be. Ideas and concepts become words, sentences, and paragraphs -- but the use of language to communicate those ideas and concepts results in a linguistic structure being applied, in a sense, to the ideas and concepts themselves, changing both structure and form. That is -- ideas/concepts and vocabulary reflexively affect each other within the mind of any given individual (or, indeed, group of like-minded individuals -- at least, enough that there's noticeable trends as a direct, demonstrable result).

tl;dr thoughts affect word choices, but word choices affect thoughts as well -- so make sure you use the right word(s) for the stuff you want to say.

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:17    Post subject:  

Agreed, this is a crack, not a hack. No need for me to look it up.
Probably extorsion based.

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Ted Dog


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PostPosted: Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:34    Post subject:  

VP Bidin says it was Russian crackers.
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tlchost

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2015, 03:06    Post subject:  

Ted Dog wrote:
VP Bidin says it was Russian crackers.


President lays blame at feet of the republicans, again.
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Ted Dog


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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2015, 08:24    Post subject:  

Yeah that not what his son said ( you know the one booted from US military for being on cocaine while his dad is second in chief ) Then lied to his wife about his affairs and online about his age.
Only 99,000 where from Texas and they have been self pruning. Funny do not see many if any women's names released.
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bark_bark_bark

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2015, 14:34    Post subject:  

tlchost wrote:
Ted Dog wrote:
VP Bidin says it was Russian crackers.


President lays blame at feet of the republicans, again.


Why would republicans want to shut own a site they all use, like Ashely Madison?

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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2015, 14:52    Post subject:  

There seems to be a push to politicize the breach. Its an effort to say one group is bad.

Should we be entertaining US politics, too? The original post has pointed to the hardships encountered by the breach, NOT politics. Couple members have contributed "the foul" use of technology to breach, too. Thus, it is Not some US President slant that is, now, being thrown about in this thread to evoke hatreds.

If the use of technology is criminal and it causes hardship, we should be understanding of it...versus trying to push hatreds for any group.

Edited the 2nd paragraph to insure its message intent on this technical forum.

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2015, 15:04    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
Thus, it is Not some US President slant that is, now, being thrown about to evoke hatreds.

I'm guessing that tlchost's comment was a little play on words to associate "cracker" with "southern republican".

But maybe I'm giving him too much credit.
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Ted Dog


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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2015, 16:54    Post subject:  

lol up over my head.. forgot cracker was a racist term for White Guy.

Still waiting for MSM (main stream media) to try and blame Trump for the shooting this morning of that TV crew in Virgina. O' Georgie Boy Ramos made last nights news interesting. Embarassed
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tlchost

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2015, 17:01    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:

Edited the 2nd paragraph to insure its message intent on this technical forum.


Uhm this area is for Off-Topic posts...if we use your logic, then it should be renamed Off-Topic Technical Posts.

Please don't even attempt to act as censor.

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2015, 17:06    Post subject:  

bark_bark_bark wrote:

Why would republicans want to shut own a site they all use, like Ashely Madison?


Sorry your ID was exposed, but at least we now know what you do in your spare time.
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2015, 17:25    Post subject:  

I do not think Bar_Bar_Bar joins those boy-girl sites, Check his new sig line Rolling Eyes
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