Do we Vivaldi yet?

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cthisbear · #1 Post by **cthisbear** » Mon 24 Aug 2015, 11:33

Do we Vivaldi yet?

https://vivaldi.com/download/#alternate

https://vivaldi.com/story/

Chris.

01micko · #2 Post by **01micko** » Mon 24 Aug 2015, 11:57

I see Ruarí Ødegaard is on the team; had plenty of contact with him. Opera engineer (one of many of course). Also active on the Slackware forum at LQ. Good bloke.

Later.. running well for me. I suppose we need some sort of install script. I look into it.

Here is rurari's blog http://ruario.ghost.io/

Anyone following my twitter account or the Vivaldi team blog has probably worked out that I have left Opera and started working for Vivaldi. If you missed the news, the short version is that Opera shutdown the Oslo office working on the desktop browser. Most people were laid off

cthisbear · #3 Post by **cthisbear** » Tue 25 Aug 2015, 00:04

01micko:

Thanks mate.
I saw it on Majorgeeks....looked interesting.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/

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Sorry....only just saw this....>>>>> vivaldi browser

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97978

Cheers....Chris.

rokytnji · #4 Post by **rokytnji** » Tue 25 Aug 2015, 01:21

Just something Ruarí Ødegaard gave me/pointed me to, back when I was installing Vivaldi in Puppy by hand. I was also installing Vivaldi by hand in Salix Linux.

https://gist.github.com/ruario/b5aca855f2d05ba14836

But you may be better off going with pepper flash included Vivaldi pet instead built by 666philipb in the link cthisbear posted.

Just more flotsam and jetsam from a scooter tramp puppy user.

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/forum/vivaldi ... in-vivaldi

I got schooled on turning off sandbox in Vivaldi by Ruarí Ødegaard to launch it in Salix. He was still working for Opera then, though. I see he is a admin there at Vivaldi now.

Short quote

Me

Well? Whaddya think? Chown and Chmod did not work out for me.
[vivaldi-snapshot]$ ls -l vivaldi-sandbox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root users 13688 Feb 16 04:29 vivaldi-sandbox\

I was able to launch it by turning off sandbox. Using this switch to launch it

$ vivaldi-snapshot --no-sandbox

Ruario reply

I think it is a truly terrible idea. The sandbox is setuid for good reason. It allows the Chomium backend to setup an environment where the processes are isolated and cannot do things they should not. You have just removed one of the biggest safety features of Chromium based browsers.

I get into trouble sometimes experimenting.

saintless · #5 Post by **saintless** » Sat 29 Aug 2015, 20:49

This sounds nice:
https://vivaldi.com/story/
But while Vivaldi says "Get new computer",
Opera just works.

mcewanw · #6 Post by **mcewanw** » Tue 01 Sep 2015, 00:09

But worked okay on newer computer in MintPup :-) even as root user after creating directory /root/.vivaldi and starting the program with:

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vivaldi --user-data-dir /root/.vivaldi

installed with dpkg -i using the 32bit deb file provided by vivaldi

William

EDIT: But in quick tests, I found vivaldi slower loading pages from Puppy forum than my Firefox ver 40.0.3 - but I suppose it is released as a "Technical Preview" so the end product may be faster.
EDIT2: On second tests, I must withdraw my previous statement - seemed to be at least equally fast (rendering) to my Firefox and maybe a bit faster (need more tests - but looks good and playing youtube videos fine using html5). Seems to have a lot of interesting features - good to have an alternative anyway. I'm using a core 2 duo 2.1GHz cpu system with 2GB RAM so I can't comment how well it performs on lower spec hardware.
EDIT3: Actually, I'm already beginning to like it! Hope it has good plugin support for downloading and so on - that's why I tend to use firefox despite its increasing bloat (and I haven't checked vivaldi resource usage as yet). I'm not sure about having its left panel though (even though it can be toggled pretty much off it takes a bit width) - but I expect that can be moved to top or bottom or whatever. No, seems to be leftside or rightside only, so toggle off best for me (though I'd rather it wasn't there at all, its okay tho)
EDIT4: Ah, that's better: there is another sidepanel toggle button just on the bottom status bar which gives me full width as desired (and I love that screen magnifier slider on the status bar! (and provides 'Notes' facility that can accept Markdown notation as well as plain text)

saintless · #7 Post by **saintless** » Tue 01 Sep 2015, 06:22

I guess this is not a problem for most people but I see second old hardware report in this forum:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 621#842621
I can't find anything about the supported hardware. Only the same question without answer here:
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index. ... browser%29
Maybe Vivaldi has dropped support for CPU without sse2 flag (like latest Skype 4.3 for linux) or something similar.
I don't mind Vivaldi developers made this choice. I wouldn't change Dillo + Iceweasel combination anyway.
But Opera team decision to support older hardware seems much more user friendly to me.

Toni

rokytnji · #8 Post by **rokytnji** » Tue 01 Sep 2015, 18:32

err. Ok.

http://www.opera.com/download/requirements/

Linux

Ubuntu 14.04 or later
Pentium 4 processor or later that supports SSE2
512 MB of RAM
300 MB of free disk space

Vivaldi is built on Chromium. Minimal Chromium Browser specs might be what you want to search.

saintless · #9 Post by **saintless** » Tue 01 Sep 2015, 19:43

Pentium 4 processor or later that supports SSE2
512 MB of RAM

Thanks, but nothing like that here.
P-III 650Mhz (no SSE2), 256Mb RAM and Opera 12.16 works well browsing this forum:
http://kazzascorner.com.au/saintless/De ... _scrot.png
Chromium gives no sse2 flag and doesn't start. This answers the question about Vivaldi I guess.

rokytnji · #10 Post by **rokytnji** » Tue 01 Sep 2015, 23:27

Opera abandoned presto. So running 12 is like running a unsupported browser.

https://dev.opera.com/blog/300-million- ... to-webkit/

But like choice in life. Who am I to say what is cool to run and what is not.
Edit: UZBL is a dead browser so I am freaking pot calling the kettle black.
Plus, only P3 I have runs Iceweasel, Dillo, and UZBL. I never tried what I am suggesting below. Being a wimp/woosy, and all.

Try this on your p3, 256mb ram, debian doggy. My atoms can take it on OK.
3rd edit: Forget I said that. Must be the beer talking.

http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2015/04/ ... bit-linux/

Now you are gonna corner me into trying Vivaldi on my AntiX Pentium 3 Ibm T23 Laptop. Out of curiosity. Then Maybe 32 bit Opera 33 next.

2nd edit: No sse2 on mine makes my above statement useless also.
So scratch that out.

4th edit: all these edits came into play because of

But Opera team decision to support older hardware seems much more user friendly to me.

The net is leaving us behind saintless.

Nobody is supporting legacy gear much anymore as far as browser support goes.

saintless · #11 Post by **saintless** » Wed 02 Sep 2015, 06:21

rokytnji wrote:4th edit: all these edits came into play because of
But Opera team decision to support older hardware seems much more user friendly to me.

Yes, I'm wrong about opera team decision.
I thought the version for 32-bit linux from Opera repo is up to date but it is not (apt downloads 12.16):

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deb http://deb.opera.com/opera stable non-free

The 33 developers version doesn't even give "old hardware" message:

root@debian:~# opera-developer
Illegal instruction

The net is leaving us behind saintless.

I agree

Still I can do all I need on this machine and it proved to be very good testing base.
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