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Smithy


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Aug 2015, 06:05    Post subject:  New Subsection in the Hardware Subforum
Subject description: Apple Mac
 

Never really got some quantifiable info on Puppy on Macs, but would it be an idea
to create a subsection in Hardware Forum for the macs?
Reason being, that those old macs have had shabby treatment, only firefox 3xx available on the mini etc etc (Firefox 3 is quite nice though Smile. I bet Puppy would be a good replacement for the older macs (especially intel based) and keep them from being thrown away. At least the info will all be in one place.
Whaddya ya reckon?
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Ted Dog


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Aug 2015, 11:16    Post subject:  

why not, Fatdog64 runs better on MacTels (my 2010 minimac) than Apples' OSX does Wink used OSX tools to shrink its overuse of the harddrive and now have a big empty NTFS that both OSX and FatDog can use to share files.
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gcmartin


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Aug 2015, 12:26    Post subject: How big is the MAC community which wants to convert?  

Actually, Intel MACs can run almost any x86/x86-64 distro or OS.

The truly "older" MACs were PowerPC vs Intel CPUs.

There is little info in Puppyland.

One of the forum problems is its inability to be upgraded as resources are not available to do the upgrade/migration.

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Aug 2015, 15:28    Post subject:  

Thats a good point, from a linux view its just another PC that likes to route hardware everything as a USB devices, like the RaspPi does. But for some reason the owners think Apple Hardware somehow is special
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Aug 2015, 15:32    Post subject:  

We could just start a thread under Hardware and ask for a sticky.
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Aug 2015, 23:18    Post subject:  

I'm running a manual frugal install of LxPupTahr from a 64gb flash drive on my macmini.

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Memory 16534MB (206MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System LxPupTahr - 15.05
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sat 15 Aug 2015 09:26:25 PM EDT
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation

SCSI Disks
ATA APPLE HDD HTS545
HL-DT-ST DVDRW GX40N
Kingston DataTraveler 3.0

Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 3.14.20 (i686)
Version #1 SMP Thu Jan 8 12:54:43 GMT 2015
C Library GNU C Library version 2.19 (stable)
Distribution LxPupTahr - 15.05
Current Session
Computer Name puppypc17787
User Name root (root)
Home Directory /root
Desktop Environment LXDE

It's working well.
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peebee


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PostPosted: Sun 16 Aug 2015, 02:15    Post subject:  

Billtoo wrote:
I'm running a manual frugal install of LxPupTahr from a 64gb flash drive on my macmini.

Hi Billtoo

Interested that you have the "Activate Broadcom" desktop icon showing.

Have you activated the wl driver? Are you using it OK?

I've never had any feedback, good or bad, whether this mechanism requested by rcrns51 works for people with Broadcom wifi.

Thanks
peebee

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Smithy


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PostPosted: Sun 16 Aug 2015, 04:32    Post subject:  

Great starter info Ted Dog and GC Martin.
Here's a half decent database for starters.
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/index-macmini.html

May be if darkcity was interested, (I think it's his sort of bag) a wiki thing could be made, along the lines of:
MAC Type:
Model Number:
Specs:
Puppy Available: Yes/NO (Caveats)
Boot Methods Available: CD/DVD, USB, Hard Drive.
Puppy Versions and Derivatives Currently Available. (Link to thread).
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sun 16 Aug 2015, 06:03    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
I'm running a manual frugal install of LxPupTahr from a 64gb flash drive on my macmini.

Hi Billtoo

Interested that you have the "Activate Broadcom" desktop icon showing.

Have you activated the wl driver? Are you using it OK?

I've never had any feedback, good or bad, whether this mechanism requested by rcrns51 works for people with Broadcom wifi.

Thanks
peebee


Hi peebee,

I didn't need to use the Activate Broadcom icon on the macmini but I
moved the flash drive to an HP desktop that has Broadcom Corporation BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n
and when I ran the network wizard all that showed up was eth0.

I clicked on the Activate Broadcom icon and rebooted, ran the network
wizard again and wlan0 was there, continued with the setup and wireless
works now.

EDIT: I compiled the ati driver for the graphics card, going to run this on the HP now:

root# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: LxPupTahr, version 15.05

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Oland [Radeon HD 8570 / R7 240 OEM]

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: fglrx

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): fglrx
Loaded modules: amdxmm dbe ddc extmod fb fglrxdrm glesx glx kbd mouse ramdac vbe vgahw

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x284 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
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