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witekjeden

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Aug 2015, 12:39    Post subject:  Q4-pup
Subject description: How to create
 

Hi.
There is a new wersion of Q4os:
http://q4os.org/downloads1.html
Question: how to compile the Puppy or the Puppy-like system from Q4os? Is this possible? Please step by step.
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Q4os is the only(?) system with the legendary KDE3.5.xx (Trinity) desktop so it will be great job convertion into Puppy.
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Aug 2015, 13:06    Post subject:  

Do you want to add Trinity to Puppy?
Look here: http://www.google.com/cse?cx=015995643981050743583%3Aabvzbibgzxo&q=trinity&sa=Search&cof=FORID%3A0#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=trinity&gsc.page=1

Saludos.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Aug 2015, 13:24    Post subject:  

Yes, i know. But i think about complete new system compiling every new version of Q4os, something like long time support. Q4os has an active developers team and it is the hopefull base distro in my opinion.
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Sorry for my english crashes.
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Aug 2015, 19:42    Post subject: KDE requested by the OP  

JustLighthouse has a ready to run approach for KDE. Save yourself some agony steps and investigate the benefit the benefit that PUP brings to you.

And post any observation on that thread for others to see.

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Bindee

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug 2015, 00:52    Post subject:  

You may be wasting your time as i bought up the idea of the virtues of Q4os and people just got their panties in a twist and said it didn't belong here and trashed the thread and got it deleted.

Though oddly everything else such as slackware , mint and Ubuntu and such is.

Go figure.... <headscratch>
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug 2015, 01:19    Post subject:  

witekjeden is the idea to create a Q4Puppy or to do a Mintpup, Debiandog kind of thing??
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug 2015, 02:48    Post subject:  

Actually Bindee, when you started a new thread on the same subject, your question actually made sense. The original was ambiguous to say the least, and got derailed by some weirdo putting in irrelevant wikipedia links. Don't you hate it when people do that?
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug 2015, 03:04    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug 2015, 07:02    Post subject:  

witekjeden wrote:
Q4os is the only(?) system with the legendary KDE3.5.xx (Trinity) desktop so it will be great job convertion into Puppy.

There is KDPUP with the same KDE version.

witekjeden wrote:
Yes, i know. But i think about complete new system compiling every new version of Q4os, something like long time support. Q4os has an active developers team and it is the hopefull base distro in my opinion.

You should be able to use Q4os live cd to make frugal install saving changes in save file or save partition (I guess q4os use the official Debian method for building live system and the same persistence method):
http://live.debian.net/manpages/4.x/en/html/live-boot.7.html
http://live.debian.net/manpages/4.x/en/html/persistence.conf.5.html
Only then you will have real long term support. You can't get long term support if you don't use the official package manager and repository and if you don't keep the same system structure.
Most probably you will not get help building Puppy because Q4os is based on Debian Jessie and boots with systemd (but maybe I'm wrong).

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witekjeden

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug 2015, 10:18    Post subject:  

darry1966 wrote:
witekjeden is the idea to create a Q4Puppy or to do a Mintpup, Debiandog kind of thing??


Only Q4pup. Debiandog and Mintpup exist, Q4pup not yet.

saintless wrote:

You should be able to use Q4os live cd to make frugal install saving changes in save file or save partition


Yes i know, there is the live iso of new version Q4os. Built new system is not easy for me but maby i try. What version Woof You suggest for crete 32bit system?
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug 2015, 11:57    Post subject:  

witekjeden wrote:
What version Woof You suggest for crete 32bit system?

Sorry, I know nothing about woof building.
But reading Q4os sources list it has active Debian Jessie main, contrib, nonfree, backports, chrome repositories and q4os special repository with higher priority over official Debian. I guess what makes Q4os different is uploaded in this special q4os repository. You will have to find the special packages installed in Q4os and mod woof build script to download the needed packages from this special q4os repository instead the versions from official debian repo. I think there is a list of installed packages included in the live cd and the same information you can find reading /var/lib/dpkg/status file.
I'm sure someone will give you link to good instruction about woof building. This is what I can find:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/woof
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47331

Edit: I think what darry1966 points is different type of building for DD and MintPup which has nothing to do with Puppy or woof:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90629

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug 2015, 13:06    Post subject:  

saintless wrote:

Edit: I think what darry1966 points is different type of building for DD and MintPup which has nothing to do with Puppy or woof:

Sorry my bug. Good question, better Puppy.
OK, thanks for reply, now i must think about it.
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