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I tested LMDE using rcrsn51 isobooter
on a 2GB usb and that worked well.
One can edit files and save them back to the
HD on the computer and it boots fast. Country keyboard
I go into terminal and write setxkbmap se so if you are
from other country just replace se with no, dk, de, fr, nl, es, whatever needed.

I have thought of that it should be an easy way to make a full
install to a usb but then that has to be a bigger one than 2gb?

wonder how much wear and tear it would produce on that usb flash?

nooby wrote: I have thought of that it should be an easy way to make a full
install to a usb but then that has to be a bigger one than 2gb?

wonder how much wear and tear it would produce on that usb flash?

I booted the live dvd and used the mint installer to install it to a
fast 16gb 60MB/s SDHC card.
I told the installer to install grub to the SDHC card, I can boot from
the hard drive by pressing f12 during startup and choosing the boot
device.
Grub4dos is the bootloader on the hard drive and has all my puppy
installs listed there.
Working good so far

This seems to have slipped under the radar.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/operaos/

2011 project based on Slitaz-3. Only 65MB.
All you get is a browser/email.

Just tried it.
Great, if you are a fan of Slitaz, as I am.

So they use Opera instead of Midori/FireFox?

Did you do full install on a separate partition on the HD
or on a usb formatted to Fat32 or

did you do frugal install on NTFS? What code to get it to boot?

I refer you to your post which has the menu.lst entry for Slitaz.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 429c86d4a4

For me, Slitaz is for remastering.

Yes that one was for Slitaz 3.0 so that may work
since then he has changed to Slitaz 4.0 and made
changes of kernel? In forum some complain that
their computers are not comapatible with the new kernel.

I found the boot code for a firefox core version of S4

title SliTaz 4.0 frugal root root lacks get-flash-plugin
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /sz4boot/bzIimage slitaz lang=en kmap=fi-latin1 rw root=/dev/null vga=normal autologin
initrd /sz4boot/rootfs.gz

if you know how to make a home=sda1 then you can add that one
to the kernel line but me having ntfs seems to be out of luck?

What I don't like about Slitaz 4.0 are that it does not have AdobeFlash
and it does not play MP4 out of the box and if one can not save
changes to home=sda1 then it is too much work to make use of it.

Hope everyone's had or having a good Easter .

With still no sign of WattOS I've installed Sparky 2.1 and, because I'm not over keen on its standard desktop, changed the window manager from Openbox to Fluxbox (but kept Conky), and it's working well. It's a good and lightweight distro although somewhat purist (Iceweasel rather than Firefox, for example).

I went from XP to 7 on the Windows box. Kinda wish I hadn't but I don't want to spend half the day going back. Will be sticking with Precise for the foreseeable future, I just can't seem to break it or slow it down.

http://www.linuxliteos.com/

I really like this, for a Ubuntu-based distro.
Not all that light, by Puppy standards, but does have some good stuff in it.
Root logins, remasterable, intelligent menuing, quite fast.

It's a goer.

64gig new ssd drive on my M&A companion Netbook. AntiX 13 beta 2 (base iso)
Pretty much like a atom based 9" netbook. wireless is internal usb instead of pci.
Best version yet.

Testing the latest Fuduntu which works good
using IsoBooter that rcrsn51 have a thread about.

Edit I wrote using Fuduntu when I wrote this
Now I edit when back in lupu again.

Very easy to prepare on a 2GB USB stick
even I could do it. I can see flash on Youtube
and local TV and it has VLC mediaplayer
and I can access the HD and play my music files
and I can edit my HTML files and save them
without needing to be root or to use su or any such.

What does not work is to save changes like keyboard setting
or date and time setting.

But it is a great way to get to know other distros.
Take at most a minute to change from one OS to another
on same USB formatting it using gparted and adding the iso
and the isobooter file and then it just works .

I want to test frugal install of latest
Slax 7.0.6 and Porteus 2.0
Here is the code I want to try out. different versions for grub4dos

title Slax 7.0.6 March 2013
kernel (hd0,0)/slax/boot/vmlinuz vga=773 load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=0 rw printk.time=0 slax.flags=perch,xmode
initrd (hd0,0)/slax/boot/initrfs.img


title Porteus 2.0 or slax login=root root toor
root (hd0,0)
kernel /porteusboot/syslinux/vmlinuz from_dev=/dev/sda1 from_dir=/porteus login=root changes=/porteus/porteussave.dat max_loop=256 fsck kmap=se
initrd /porteusboot/syslinux/initrd.xz


I finally got the courage to test both of them and had success.
i made frugal install on NTFS formatted HD the default Ms Vista desktop.

Slax had Firefox 19.0.02 IIRC
but Porteus had FF 17.x and both told me they where updated.
so that is somethign me had problem with on Puppy Slacko too
but managed to get 20.0 to work on Puppy Lupu 528-005
Both Slax and Porteus had Adobe Flash built in as I remember

Then feeling victorious I also tested Knoppix 7.0
but unfortunate it did not have Adobe Flash built in.

All three can save in a kind of save file on the HD.
So them do frugal and persistence.

Which others are there that can do frugal on NTFS?
I am starting to forget. I know Gparted do due to being slax?
but it has old firefox and not much of multimedia it is
only a rescue OS so what to expect.

I've also been trying out Porteus 2.0 (32 bit version) on my old Pentium-M 1.6GHz 1GByte laptop. I particularly like the Razor Qt desktop version, which seems to run fine on this old machine.

I like Porteus, because it has a facility that reminds me of tinycore: you can simply add and remove installed applications by simply moving the respective application module in or out of their storage folder. The only problem I'm having with it is that I can't get cpufreq scaling to work properly; I like to run my old laptop cool, and Puppy Slacko lets me do that correctly.

It would certainly be very easy to produce a very small (or large and full) Porteus distribution via mix and match. The apps supplied by default in the Razor Qt desktop version are a nice choice though (including firefox, gimp and easypaint, avidemux (video editor), perl and gcc development environment). I also note that it includes a thunor version of gtkdialog (and Pburn) so probably very easy to get most Puppy gtkdialog apps running on it (murga forum puppy developer big_bass adopting Porteus may be behind that...).

All in all, I find Porteus a lovely, quite sophisticated small Linux distribution with Slackware compatibility (so tons of available apps). The main concern I have, however, is how long a distribution ends up being supported, which includes how many developers and testers are active. Only time will tell. Puppy has been around a long time; that support (including this forum) is one of its greatest strengths. I hope Porteus becomes as popular as Puppy for that same reason, and hopefully end up with a nice active forum too.

Much though I like the lovely polish of Razor QT desktop Porteus 2, it remains the case, however, that on this Pentium mobile 1.6 GHz laptop machine at least, Slacko 5.3.3 runs in the available resources much better. Youtube videos play fullscreen faultlessly in Slacko 5.3.3 on this machine whereas Porteus stutters badly using 100% CPU when displaying less than half a fullscreen video... But as far as I remember, in earlier tests, Slacko 5.5 stutters on this old Pent-M when playing videos too... Good old Slacko 5.3.3 stays, but I will be using Porteus elsewhere because I love the ease by which it can be customised loading and unloading packages (Porteus "modules").

My current distro that I really like is the latest Crunchbang 11. I keep bouncing between Puppy 5.2.8 and Crunchbang. Love it

rmcellig wrote:My current distro that I really like is the latest Crunchbang 11. I keep bouncing between Puppy 5.2.8 and Crunchbang. Love it

I had it on a USB booted using rcrsn51 isobooter method
and that worked well. Does it have Adobe Flash in the browser
already installed? I don't remember and all my 2GB and 4GB USB
are already filled with Solyd linux, Mint LXDE Funduntu Zorin
so not which of those I should change for Crunchband instead.

What is it that you like about #! or what the symbol is.

I like the speed and leanness of it. It has a great interface which incluses one of my favorite if not my favorite window manager/DE's, Openbox. Installing software is very easy by using the command line with apt-get or Synaptic Package Manager.

I love using fast and simple distros like Puppy and #! instead of using some of the more bloated distros out there. The bottom line for me is, what do I need to do, and can Puppy and #! do it for me with the least amount of bloat. The answer is yes. Overall though, Puppy always wins the race for me. Excellent distro!!

Thanks I skipped TinyCore on an old 1GB and installed
a frugal live version of #! on it just to check up on how it behaved
and it seems to works as good as any of the others.

is it not odd that the isoboot code allow several OS to not need
sudo for to edit files on the HD if one install it on USB flash?

Usualy any linux forbid even access to the NTFS HD
and some actually do that from isobooter too.

So some odd "quirk" makes them behave different with this kind of install.
the only bad thing is that they don't remember changes.

In that way Slax Porteus is good them allow you to download
and add the program withot having a save file but they allow
save file too just in case you need one?

Debian does not seem to care about such?
Sickgut is the exception him want us to have persistence on frugal install

nooby wrote:is it not odd that the isoboot code allow several OS to not need sudo for to edit files on the HD if one install it on USB flash?

Here is a possible explanation. ISObooter simulates running off a Live CD. So you are logged in as the "root" user that has the necessary privileges to perform the install procedure.

But once you do an install, you become a regular user. So you need sudo. Or you may be completely restricted from some operations.