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Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 09:52
by pemasu
Peebee. That it is not caused by interfering nouveau. The stuff has been removed. If there would be still nouveau hanging....you would need running xorgwizard > probe or choose nv and reboot before you would get rid of loaded nouveau kernel module. It is something which some nvidia graphics users have to live with. I have quite old xorg version in this squeeze. 01micko with his slacko and with newer xorg has solved that problem I believe. I could ask 01micko if there would be generic hack to some puppy scripts to avoid that. I put it to my to do list.

remasterpup2

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 10:47
by shinobar
pemasu wrote:I extracted the remasterpup2 from the rerwin's pet. Of course I dont know if that is all it needs and if it is dpup exprimo compliant. If someone wants to give it a go...here is the pet which overwrites the existing one.
Someone with remasterpup2 content knowledge can also give valuable comments.
I have not tested but it does not support xz compression, means it makes larger remastered .iso file.

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 11:26
by pemasu
Shinobar. Thank you of the info. Now I remember that in the version I picked up, you posted that you had improved the script to handle .xz compression. Probably the lack of it made the replacement script faster ?

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 11:30
by nooby
Would this be a good Puppy for Sylvander new computer?
He asks around here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79789
I did recommend this Dpup you have in this thread.
t's an "Intel Dual Core System", Intel Pentium G620T 2.2Ghz CPU, 4GB DDR3 1333 Mhz RAM, 250GB SATA HDD, SATA DVD-RW, HD onboard graphics and sound.
some puppies he tried fail to get to the Desktop.
So I thought that Dpup having the latest kernel and drivers
would be just fine? He has a 64 bit multi core but that should work?

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 16:03
by edoc
I have 5x3428 booted via CD on a laptop and via USB stick on a netbook.

The CD boot won't hold a wireless connection.

The USB boot is stable (I am using that now).

The CD boot laptop has an AtherosAR5413 802.11abg NIC

The USB netbook has an Atheros 9285 NIC

Ideas re. the CD boot wireless instability solution, please?

Thanks!

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 17:12
by pemasu
AtherosAR5413 802.11abg NIC uses kernel module driver ath5k. It does not need firmware so it is ath5k module only which concerns.
I had my previous laptop with ath5k using wireless chip. It was troublesome. Some Puppies kept wireless connection some didnt. I am sorry. There isnt much I can do...but you can try following....

Dhcpcd might also be culprit with that module. You could use Frisbee enable-disable manager and disable Frisbee and then reboot and with next reboot use SNS which uses other dhcpcd daemon. I have dual system in my build.

Of course you could post pmodemdiag command created tar ball here....and also the output of this command:
lspci -nn > lscpi.gz
Just to check if there would be something to catch on....probably not.

01micko suggested that sometimes forcing the connection speed to be low...might help:
in console: echo "iwconfig wlan0 rate 5.5M fixed" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.local
and reboot after that which means save file creation.

Or do in console:
# ifconfig wlan0 down
# iwconfig wlan0 rate 5.5M fixed
# ifconfig wlan0 up

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 17:37
by edoc
Thanks - will have a look.

It just seems odd as that has been my primary and rock-solid laptop through several versions and now suddenly is unstable.

Always a new adventure!

:-)

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 19:40
by edoc
Is this relevant?


http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k

The Linux kernel 2.6.38 has some bugs in ath5k. We recommend to install the Linux wireless compatibility package if you are running this kernel and your internet connection is slow or unreliable.

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 20:05
by pemasu
Should not be anymore with 3.4.2 kernel but who knows if there is something odd with this kernel also.
I just had problems with my wireless chip and ath5k. I remember that I tried to compile compat-wireless without luck. Iguleder had problems also with ath5k, but he didnt manage to compile compat-wireless one neither. But it has been a long time now.....

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 20:16
by Iguleder
That's right. I had many issues with external wireless drivers, especially when I tried to build them against 2.6.32.

Now I stick with the vanilla 3.0 tree and might switch to 3.2 somewhere in the future, since both are supported for years. I don't like switching kernels, because of issues like this one.

Why don't you just use 3.2, pemasu?

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 20:23
by edoc
5X3428 does not appear to come with a default E-mail app, only Firefox as the default Web browser.

Is there an E_mail app, eg Thunderbird, that tends to be the most popular?

Is there a significant downside to the Seamonkey suite which Thunderbird addresses?

Is there any probability of problems if one loads Seamonkey?

Thanks!

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 20:29
by pemasu
I believe most email apps work in dpup exprimo. I use Thunderbird. I just download the thunderbird tar ball.....extract it to the /mnt/home....drag symlink of .thunderbird folder to the /root and then I drag thunderbird binary to the desktop and give it icon. I do that base installation seldom. Lastly I had to do that when I had that hdd crash.
Thunderbird updates automatically in that /mnt/home location with my adjustments.
I havent created pet for it....because it would be old in couple of weeks.

Seamonkey should work just fine.

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 20:32
by Gnuxo
...There's a mail client addon for firefox as well.

I like Claws Mail personally. But I've used Slypheed and even Alpine for mail before.

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 20:51
by edoc
This came from SNS:
Information about this interface:
Interface: wlan0 Driver: ath5k Bus: pci MacAddress: 00:02:6F:63:48:B4
Description: Support for 5xxx series of Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN

STEP1a: ifconfig wlan0 up
STEP1b: iwlist wlan0 scan
wlan0 Scan completed :
Cell 01 - Address: BC:AE:C5:C5:2E:BD
Channel:6
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality=47/70 Signal level=-63 dBm
Encryption key:on
ESSID:"ASUS"
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
Mode:Master
Extra:tsf=0000000c04d1712c
Extra: Last beacon: 5246ms ago
IE: Unknown: 000441535553
IE: Unknown: 010882848B962430486C
IE: Unknown: 030106
IE: Unknown: 2A0104
IE: Unknown: 2F0104
IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
Group Cipher : CCMP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP
Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
IE: Unknown: 32040C121860
IE: Unknown: 2D1AEE181BFFFF000001000000000000000000000000000000000000
IE: Unknown: 3D16060F0400000000000000000000000000000000000000
IE: Unknown: DD090010180206F0050000
IE: WPA Version 1
Group Cipher : CCMP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP
Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101800003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
STEP1c: ifconfig wlan0 down
STEP2: iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
STEP3: iwconfig wlan0 channel 6
STEP4: iwconfig wlan0 essid "ASUS"
STEP5a: ifconfig wlan0 up
STEP5b: wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -iwlan0 -c"/etc/simple_network_setup/wpa_supplicant.conf-ASUS-00:02:6F:63:48:B4"
Running: wpa_cli -i wlan0 status
wpa_state=ASSOCIATING
STEP6a: dhcpcd wlan0
dhcpcd[18586]: sending commands to master dhcpcd process

*********************************************************
LAST 10 LINES of /var/log/messages:
Jul 20 19:25:27 puppypc15993 user.debug kernel: [ 3559.798146] wlan0: deauthenticating from bc:ae:c5:c5:2e:bd by local choice (reason=3)
Jul 20 19:25:27 puppypc15993 user.info kernel: [ 3559.799450] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
Jul 19 16:25:27 puppypc15993 daemon.info dhcpcd[18658]: sending commands to master dhcpcd process
Jul 19 16:25:29 puppypc15993 daemon.debug dhcpcd[14910]: wlan0: using hwaddr 00:02:6f:63:48:b4
Jul 19 16:25:29 puppypc15993 daemon.debug dhcpcd[14910]: wlan0: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks', reason PREINIT
Jul 19 16:25:30 puppypc15993 daemon.debug dhcpcd[14910]: wlan0: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks', reason NOCARRIER
Jul 19 16:25:34 puppypc15993 daemon.info dhcpcd[14910]: wlan0: waiting for carrier
Jul 19 16:25:34 puppypc15993 daemon.info dhcpcd[14910]: control command: dhcpcd --release wlan0
Jul 19 16:25:34 puppypc15993 daemon.info dhcpcd[14910]: wlan0: removing interface
Jul 19 16:25:34 puppypc15993 daemon.debug dhcpcd[14910]: wlan0: executing `/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-run-hooks', reason STOP

Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 22:52
by Terry H
Have been away for 2 days so only just able to check out Exprimo 5.X.3.4.2.8.

Frugal install completed successfully. Broadcom 4311 wifi working fine on initial boot, save file created and all working well on reboot.

All is good. Excellent work!!!!

Posted: Fri 20 Jul 2012, 00:29
by edoc
Gnuxo wrote:...There's a mail client addon for firefox as well.
Firefox feels a little too Google & MS-heavy-handed.

It is something other than Thunderbird?

Is it a minimalist E-mail client?
Gnuxo wrote:I like Claws Mail personally. But I've used Slypheed and even Alpine for mail before.
I tried but could not get comfortable with any of those.

I may just stick with Seamonkey. I have an old SM 2.4.1 PET that I load then upgrade.

Posted: Fri 20 Jul 2012, 00:37
by don570
Note to pemasu

Try out this version of Puppy Clock. I stopped the error flow :)

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=73168


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Posted: Fri 20 Jul 2012, 00:51
by rerwin
pemasu wrote:Thank you majorfoo for testing and giving feedback of remasterpup2 a la rerwin. I have replaced the script in woof.
pemasu, shinobar, majorfoo,
Please be aware that the remasterpup2 in lucid pup is not intended for use in "post-zzz" woof-based puppies, such as exprimo. However, I some time ago posted a version built on the woof version of remasterpup2, along with other related mods. That is the one appropriate for exprimo. Here is the posting with several fixes for porting from lucid into woof.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 813#633525
I am not aware that Barry has responded to that posting. Maybe that version can be merged with a version that supports xz compression (unless it already does).

The main difference is in the calculation of the string appended to the generated sfs files. Lupu uses a shorter string. Barry later increased its length for woof. The risk of using the lupu version is that it might cause boot-up problems. Please use the woof version.
Richard

Posted: Fri 20 Jul 2012, 01:06
by Gnuxo
Firefox feels a little too Google & MS-heavy-handed.

It is something other than Thunderbird?

Is it a minimalist E-mail client?

It's called Simple Mail.

It's rather nice. You can configure it to recieve only, send only or both and you can choose where the mail is stored. I usually store it outside the save file.

It's pretty minimalist.


@Pemasu

I got the Smplayer 0.8 and Youtuber works nicely with it too. So it's good for sticking with Mplayer. I like VLC though.

remasterpup2-20120720

Posted: Fri 20 Jul 2012, 01:50
by shinobar
UPDATE: remasterpup2-20120720.pet
Merged most recent woof + rerwin's fix against precise alpha + rodin's fix seen in slacko + shinobar's fix.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 564#641564