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Re: downloaded was xz not gz.
Posted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 11:05
by Billtoo
BarryK wrote:
Actually, easydd can handle either, however, the various Windows image writer apps only understand zip or gz compression.
I used easydd, ran it from xenialpup64.
Difficulties Making Bootable USB
Posted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 12:29
by peterw
Barry K
I must be doing things wrong. In Fatdog easydd could not run on the xz image. I will try that again in xenialpup since Billtoo has had success?
I used the "gunzip --stdout beaver64-8.7.1-8gb.img.gz | dd of=/dev/sdb bs=1M" command on the new gz image and that wrote out the system in two partitions. However, it would not boot on two machines. The boot flag had been set. Tried grugdos boot loader and it recognised Quirky and install bootloader but that stopped with "kernel panic".
Posted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 12:56
by Sage
Still too much misunderstanding!
First: decompress/extract the required .img file with almost any other major Linux distro, i.e.most of them, just right click and "extract here" -exactly as I stated. I did NOT say to extract using Windows. Just follow what I said - you end up with the uncompressed .img file. Then, with almost any major [LINUX] distro, install the Linux version of USB Image Writer and use that to install your .img file to your USB stick. Do not use the Windows USB Writer utility, use the Linux one. For simplicity do not use one of the Puppy distros, which are excellent, but different to the majors in many respects, as they are 'compact' distros and written for folks a lot more competent with the coding, CLI & co. than the average user, including YT.
writing .img- or .iso-files onto flash sticks
Posted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 13:01
by lp-dolittle
@ sage
sharing your fondness for running Quirkies and Puppies totally in RAM, I'm astonished at your dd-phobia which I, of course, partially can understand, in view of the command's potential effects.
It's absolutely not my intention to give you unwelcome advice, but a simple workaround could provide you with the option to exactly follow Barry's instructions for preparing flash sticks.
If you boot a recent Quirky live-CD, on a 'HD-free' PC, you can download any .img-file and write it onto a flash stick using dd (easydd) without risking to play havoc since everything happens in RAM (and on the flash stick). As far as I can see from your posts, the required hardware ('HD-free' PC) is easily available to you.
kind regards
Posted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 13:24
by roadkill13
I installed 8.7.1 to hdd last night using the Quirky universal installer on my Dell Optiplex 745 USFF.
# inxi -F
System: Host: QUIRKYPC29678 Kernel: 4.18.9 x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: JWM git-1685 Distro: Quirky 8.7.1 beaver64
Machine: Device: laptop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 745 serial: JR9TYD1
Mobo: Dell model: 0GW726 serial: ..CN6986179L0353.
BIOS: Dell v: 2.6.6 date: 06/26/2011
CPU: Dual core Intel Pentium Dual E2180 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
clock speeds: max: 1987 MHz 1: 1987 MHz 2: 1982 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6
drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1280x1024@60.02hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965Q version: 2.1 Mesa 18.0.5
Audio: Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.18.9
Network: Card: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCIE
driver: tg3
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full
mac: 00:1a:a0:6c:73:4b
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (0.4% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD5000AAKX size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 98G used: 2.1G (3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info: Processes: 104 Uptime: 4 min Memory: 226.7/3872.7MB
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56
I noted the same anomaly with the system not being able to boot with menu.lst entry generated by the grub configuration utility. I used the same work around as before.
title Quirky Beaver64 8.7.1 (sda1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro
I did install Chromium from the package manager, otherwise I am running the stock install. Everything is working as expected so far. Thank you for this.
Beaver 8.7.1 (Sept. 21), 2018
Posted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 14:58
by Billtoo
I installed to a 32gb sandisk flash drive with easydd:
System: Host: QUIRKYPC23549 Kernel: 4.18.9 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM git-1685
Distro: Quirky 8.7.1 beaver64
Machine: Device: desktop System: LENOVO product: 7491B8U v: ThinkCentre M58e serial: MJ01509
Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: INVALID BIOS: LENOVO v: 5HKT39AUS date: 06/17/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E8400 (-MCP-) speed/max: 2527/3003 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GT216 [GeForce GT 220]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: NVA5 version: 3.3 Mesa 18.0.5
Network: Card: Marvell 88E8057 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2
Drives: HDD Total Size: 350.8GB (1.2% used)
Weather: Conditions: 54 F (12 C) Time: September 22, 10:52 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 104 Uptime: 51 min Memory: 213.0/3947.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56
Updated petget and installed a few applications.
Working well,
Thanks.
Installing to USB stick
Posted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 18:09
by peterw
Sage
Thanks for your help. I do understand your instructions and using them I have installed Quirky to a USB stick. It basically works on a Acer C720 Chromebook apart from (what I expected) the touchpad and its buttons - peculiarity of Chromebooks. Also, I have not got the sound working yet.
I need to experiment more with the Quirky recommended ways of installing. Perhaps, I will try dd'ing the decompressed image and not do it all in one.
Posted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 18:32
by tronkel
I have a 2 year old HP laptop to which I can't install Quirky 8.7.1. It can see all the partitions on the disk, but on choosing a specific partition to install to, the installer keeps issuing an error message saying that the partitions are unreadable and to maybe try another one instead.
This Quirky 8.7.1 version installed to an older HP PC with no issues. Quirky Xerus 8.6 also installed with no problems to this laptop.
Is there perhaps a firmware package missing that is required so that the installer can see the disk partitions partitions on this specific HP laptop? It's a bog-standard HP cheapo that in the past has always ran Quirky/Puppy/ as well as many other distros with zero problems.
Can't install Beaver-8.7.1 onto my hdd
Posted: Sat 22 Sep 2018, 20:09
by FeodorF
Hi Barry!
I'm trying to install Beaver-8.7.1 onto my box. Yeah, it's the one with dual core and only 2 GB of ram.
I've tried the 'sync' in line 133 and 115 in /usr/local/install-quirky/install-quirky-to-frugal without luck.
The script will stop at ..writing inodes.. at 84% (there is less than 1.5 GB of compressed ram left).
Doing an install of Quirky 8.6 to the hdd works fine.
Any ideas?
Greetings, Feodor
Beaver 8.7.1 (Sept. 21), 2018
Posted: Sun 23 Sep 2018, 03:35
by Billtoo
Installed to a 32gb SDHC card (in usb adapter) :
System: Host: QUIRKYPC8336 Kernel: 4.18.9 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM git-1685 Distro: Quirky 8.7.1 beaver64
Machine: Device: laptop System: Acer product: Aspire V5-571P v: V2.17 serial: NXM49AA03531512EC36600
Mobo: Acer model: Aspire V5-571P v: V2.17 serial: NBM491100831501E946600
UEFI [Legacy]: Phoenix v: V2.17 date: 02/27/2013
Battery BAT0: charge: 27.0 Wh 95.9% condition: 28.1/37.0 Wh (76%)
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-3227U (-MT-MCP-) speed/max: 966/1901 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: intel Resolution: 1366x768@60.10hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile version: 4.2 Mesa 18.0.5
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Broadcom Limited BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n driver: bcma-pci-bridge
Drives: HDD Total Size: 532.0GB (0.9% used)
Weather: Conditions: 54 F (12 C) Time: September 22, 11:03 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 126 Uptime: 1:09 Memory: 151.5/5754.6MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56
Udated petget and installed favorite applications.
The touchscreen is supported.
Thanks for Quirky 8.7.1.
Posted: Sun 23 Sep 2018, 06:15
by Sage
lp-dolittle - you are missing a decade and a half of discourse. I retired twenty years ago and never a coder, I leave that to BK*. I don't use Puppies as mainline DT distros, mainly for demos, diagnosis and repair, rarely ever installed, hence the desire for .iso as well as .img, There's piles of excellent machinery out there that doesn't merit landifill for another decade. If you want all-signing dancing, get yourself a major Linux distro with all the built-in drivers, extensively tried & tested, abandon the devil's OS completely. Professionals probably best off with RH.
*Nota Bene his latest blast of today's date.
Posted: Sun 23 Sep 2018, 09:38
by BarryK
roadkill13 wrote:I noted the same anomaly with the system not being able to boot with menu.lst entry generated by the grub configuration utility. I used the same work around as before.
title Quirky Beaver64 8.7.1 (sda1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro
Ah, found the cause. Quirky Beaver 8.7.1 has the Busybox 'fdisk' applet, not the full one from 'util-linux'. The busybox one is less functional, stuffs things up.
And I know why it is missing. It is the old story of the Debian developers playing musical chairs with packages. They love to split a package up into lots of smaller ones. Worse, they keep changing the split-up.
In Xenial Xerus, 'fdisk' is in the 'util-linux' DEB, however, in Bionic Beaver they have taken it out into its own package, a DEB named 'fdisk'.
I am on the lookout for this, but missed this one.
Solution, click "petget" at top of screen to run the Package Manager, search for "fdisk" and you will find it in the "ubuntu-bionic-main" repo. No missing deps, so just install it. I am doing this as I type this report....
Yep, ran "fdisk --help" in a terminal, now it is the full version. You should be good to go for using the Quirky Installer.
confusion
Posted: Sun 23 Sep 2018, 10:16
by lp-dolittle
@ sage
thank you for your response!
As it seems, you misconceived my yesterday post. Sorry for being unable to better explain my proposal.
kind regards
Posted: Mon 24 Sep 2018, 03:03
by BarryK
Have an ongoing problem with SNS (Simple Network Setup), sometimes Internet connection fails, for both wireless and wired, even though the network is up and the dhcp server is running.
I have been reading the man page for 'dhcpcd', it seems, that it may or may not daemonize (run in the background) immediately, before writing to /etc/resolv.conf
There is a "--waitip" option, to make sure that it writes to /etc/resolv.conf before backgrounding, however, I decided not to use that option, instead to put in some tests.
I have modified /usr/local/simple_network_setup/rc.network and sns. Previously only had "sleep 0.1" after running dhcpcd, now will wait longer if necessary.
Beaver 8.7.1 (Sept. 21), 2018
Posted: Mon 24 Sep 2018, 09:32
by Billtoo
I did a new install using easydd on this pc,was using a flash drive
and small monitor, now a usb-3.0 SSD and 32" TV.
System: Host: QUIRKYPC10294 Kernel: 4.18.9 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM git-1685
Distro: Quirky 8.7.1 beaver64
Machine: Device: desktop System: HP product: 260-p029 serial: CNV6240BWP
Mobo: HP model: 81B4 v: 01 serial: PFPSK0BWJ301LW UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: F.04 date: 05/10/2016
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-6100T (-MT-MCP-) speed/max: 1239/3101 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel HD Graphics 530
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: intel Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2) version: 4.5 Mesa 18.0.5
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtl8723be
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1126.5GB (1.0% used)
Weather: Conditions: 56 F (14 C) Time: September 24, 5:00 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 144 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 129.7/3873.7MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56
I installed all the same applications with petget, it's working well
on the bigger screen.
I used Frisbee to setup the internet connection.
Thanks.
Posted: Mon 24 Sep 2018, 18:42
by roadkill13
roadkill13 wrote:
I noted the same anomaly with the system not being able to boot with menu.lst entry generated by the grub configuration utility. I used the same work around as before.
Quote:
title Quirky Beaver64 8.7.1 (sda1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro
Ah, found the cause
That's good to know. Thank you.
Libreoffice writer full screen mode
Posted: Tue 25 Sep 2018, 19:11
by FeodorF
While using the Libreoffice writer I noticed that you can not enlarge it to full screen mode by clicking on the symbol.
I am using the frugal mode with 1280x1024 screen and nvidia NV96 graphics card.
I fixed the problem by moving the window up to the top and enlarging it to the right and the bottom. While you click on full screen mode now, closing it and doing a frugal save everything will be fine at the next boot.
Rem: Calc and Base come in full screen mode by default.
Greetings,
FeodorF
devx 8.7.1?
Posted: Wed 26 Sep 2018, 02:23
by scsijon
sorry, but can't find the devx for 8.7.1 to do some tests.
It can't seem to find the
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... es-beaver/ directory.
Re: devx 8.7.1?
Posted: Wed 26 Sep 2018, 04:24
by BarryK
Re: devx 8.7.1?
Posted: Wed 26 Sep 2018, 06:48
by scsijon
Ah, thanks, I was just following the instructions in
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... -8.7.1.htm and as it failed I looked around there, hadn't thought of the easy sfs directory.
Now i'm home again, I am looking forward of getting up to date with easy and start a first sourcery packagebuild.
I did a lot of script reading while away. It will of course fail, but I should get some idea of if the system is actually puppy compatable or not.