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Posted: Thu 15 Dec 2011, 21:45
by rhadon
@shinobar
the last days I was playing with pmedia=ataflash instead of atahd (Slacko 5.3). Also played with rc.shutdown, but often changes in rc.shutdown were not saved at the end of the session. Other changes like copying or deleting got saved.

Since I use alsa_snapmergepuppy-20111210-shinobar.tar.gz, everything seems to work fine.

Thank you
Rolf

Posted: Thu 15 Dec 2011, 22:30
by playdayz
Are you planning on including a fix that will be included for the main release 528.iso or is this a separate issue?
Brown Mouse, I think you are asking about this.

Release Candidate for Lucid 5.2.8-004
This has the same fixes as the test02-lupu-528x.iso, specifically shinobar and rerwin's repairs to snapmergepuppy and 10alsa. It appears to fix the problem with usb-flash/sound disappearing, as well as possibly other problems, as in rhadon's message above. It also has the latest Install Flashplayer to adjust to the fact that Adobe has started moving the flashplayer binary around. Apart from those changes it contains Instant Update 002. No other changes are included as the main purpose is to consolidate a fix for the usb-flash/sound issue.

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/lupu-528.004.iso
4d8c53f27d605775b1791fb32791c704
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DevX for lupu-528.004?

Posted: Fri 16 Dec 2011, 02:33
by kevin bowers
Playdayz,
After all these fixes and retractions and more fixes, which DevX file should go with lupu-528.004? Or does it need its own? BTW, I'm in awe of the Puppy developer team, especially you, Shinobar, Rerwin, and Smokey01, you guys busted tail for what looked like about a half-dozen Puppy users with sound problems. OK, maybe it was for the sake of a job well done, equally admirable. Thanks and kudos!

Posted: Fri 16 Dec 2011, 08:23
by Sage
Exactly what is the strategy? A gold version soon? And how does this affect 3HD?
Whatever, must echo the congratulatory. Polishing brings an inner glow - very professional to dot the 't' s and cross the 'i' s, so to speak!

Posted: Fri 16 Dec 2011, 10:04
by Sylvander
A. Downloaded the Lupu-528.004.iso file.

B. Edited the isolinux.cfg file on the iso, and renamed it Lupu-528.004-ataflash.iso

C. Made a CD-RW using Lupu-528.004-ataflash.iso

D. Deleted the "old" SFS file beside the lupusave file, and copied the "new" SFS into its place.

E. Rebooted using the Lupu-528.004-ataflash CD-RW.
It found and used the "old" lupusave file.
There was no notification of a need to update the lupusave file.
Is this because...
Lupu-528.004.iso
Is IDENTICAL to...
test02-lupu-528x.iso ?

F. Anyway...
It's working just as well as before. :D 8)
Unable to tell any difference.

LUPU 5.2.8 Hardware not working

Posted: Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:24
by pupzo
Hi

i was really hoping that some one could help me with something i have been struggling with, i have a Zotac Zbox Nano AD10.
http://www.kitguru.net/desktop-pc/zardo ... us-review/

im struggling to get the graphics card(AMD Radeon HD6310) and audio to work on lupu 5.2.8.

i have installed numerous drivers for the graphics and cant seem to find a match, i was hoping that you could help me debug this to get it functioning.
i want to get the full potential of my graphics card and if possible extend the screen so i can have 2 screens, i have it all connected and while using the VESA driver it only clones the display.

sound, i tried the alsa driver wizard but it seems like the HW is not configured correctly. so it does not detect the audio and fails at some point. but it has never worked.

thanks kindly

Posted: Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:18
by Sage
Runs like the clappers on an old A850 board - everything works.

Posted: Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:30
by playdayz
After all these fixes and retractions and more fixes, which DevX file should go with lupu-528.004?

Shinobar, Rerwin, and Smokey01, you guys busted tail for what looked like about a half-dozen Puppy users with sound problems.
kevin bowers, Yes, lupu_devx_528-4.sfs is the appropriate devx. That would only change if the release number 528 changed.

lupu_devx_528-4.sfs -> ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pup ... _528-4.sfs
bf14b9eea9d67ad2f58dd11dc15832f7 lupu_devx_528-4.sfs

Yes, we had some people work extremely hard on the usb-flash/sound issue. That was not easy because it was deep in the infrastructure, not just a problem with one particular program. I still have my fingers crossed-we will test the 004 iso as release candidate for several days. It wouldn't have been possible without Sylvander.
Exactly what is the strategy? A gold version soon? And how does this affect 3HD?
That's a good idea Sage. The strategy is to test the rc then hopefully post it as official in the first message of this thread and on ibiblio. Then I will post Instant Update 004 for people who are already using Lucid and don't want to download the new iso. The usb-flash/sound issue has not been reported in 3HD (or maybe once) so right now I regard 3HD with Instant Update 001 in the Three-Headed Dog thread to be solid. In the future of Lucid, rerwin is working on some further refinements and I am thinking that perhaps in the future we could have a "Stable" iso and a "Testing" iso. Another possibility is to emphasize Remastering and collect some interesting remasters--the Remastering capability of Lucid is working nicely with some improvements rerwin has made.

Three-Headed Dog -> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70736

Posted: Fri 16 Dec 2011, 17:17
by Sage
Well done - told you this one was worth the enormous effort. The silent majority are smiling with you. Something this good deserves everyone's appreciation and deserves to continue.

Posted: Fri 16 Dec 2011, 18:57
by mavrothal
Here is a strange one with 004 (haven't noticed on earlier builds but can not exclude it either)
While running frugal from a USB, unloading an sfs with SFS_load on the fly, triggers snapmerge!
This is not the case with a frugal install on a HD.
Anybody else seeing this?
Is not really a problem (other than some delay), but is it intentional or a consequence of the recent changes?

Latter: though not formally measured, snapmerge looks considerably slower now in a frugal USB install, both in interval saves and shutdown

Smiling

Posted: Fri 16 Dec 2011, 19:11
by elcurita
To the "lost sound" team =THANK YOU!
Part of the silent majority smiling.

Re: Smiling

Posted: Fri 16 Dec 2011, 20:32
by bigpup
elcurita wrote:To the "lost sound" team =THANK YOU!
Part of the silent majority smiling.
+1

This kind of willingness, to improve and tweak, has made Lucid Puppy 528 the only Puppy I use.

The others I play with.
They just do not have the polished look and feel of Lucid 528.

Posted: Fri 16 Dec 2011, 23:18
by playdayz
Adblock Plus for Chromium-based Browsers--Srware Iron, Google Chrome, Chromium

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... cddilifddb

Here are the browsers -> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 868#584868

Re: Smiling

Posted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 00:35
by sheldonisaac
Some snipping.
bigpup wrote:
elcurita wrote:To the "lost sound" team =THANK YOU!
Part of the silent majority smiling.
+1

This kind of willingness, to improve and tweak, has made Lucid Puppy 528 the only Puppy I use.
I'm on 214X-TOP9 on this computer, because it runs without problems,

I too thank playdayz and the others for 5.2.8, which runs fine on my less-old computers.

Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 - Updated ISO Version 003 - NOV 29, 2011

Posted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 13:05
by Billtoo
I did a full install of lupu-528.004.iso to an Acer desktop pc.
Everything went well except grub4dos didn't search the partitions when
I ran it.
The drive has 4 ext4 partitions on it and I installed lupu to the 3rd
partition.When I ran grub4dos I clicked on the option to search only
the hard drive and it didn't work, I installed
grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.7.1.pet and it worked properly.
Other than that problem everything is good.

Sat 17 Dec 2011 Operating System: Lucid -528 Linux 2.6.33.2
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 290.10

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600
Core 0: 2394 1: 2394 2: 2394 3: 2394 MHz

Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 - Updated ISO Version 003 - NOV 29, 2011

Posted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 13:05
by Billtoo
double post.

Lucid 5.28-004 RC

Posted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 15:30
by majorfoo
D/L iso, booted live cd to desktop - No internet connection
I had to set up manually

I have not had any sound problems as do full installs on 7 different puppies.

Full install of this version works with no problems

My congratulations and thanks to all worked so hard to make this version great.

majorfoo

Re: Smiling

Posted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 16:42
by ttuuxxx
[quote="sheldonisaac

I'm on 214X-TOP9 on this computer, because it runs without problems,

I too thank playdayz and the others for 5.2.8, which runs fine on my less-old computers.[/quote]
That's excellent ti know :) thanks :)
ttuuxxx

Testing 003 & 004

Posted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 17:36
by ETP
playdayz
In a previous post in this thread (page 50) I commented that whilst I have never lost sound on a USB stick, I had when copying a pup over to USBHD with the exception of Racy-5.2.2 k3.0.7.

Having said that I only possess one pc and my sticks and therefore Alsa are not being presented with different combinations of sound chips and devices. It seems that Alsa works best with a clean start so that it can create its inodes – which makes sense when moving a USB device between PCs.

These comments apply to a manual frugal install to a fat 32 USB 2 stick with syslinux 4.04 boot and ext2 save file. The screenshots are of 003.
I started by using another pup to mount lupu_528.sfs before launching for the first time.

Noteworthy in the first shot are:
119 items in /dev/sound – the bulk of which are from 2005 (harmless orphaned inodes?)
The 3 pci items dated 25 Nov 2011 in /dev/snd/by-path
The 3 mixers in /dev
It seems that all of this stuff comes from the pc that authored the ISO.

The second screenshot show the situation after the first re-boot and creation of a savefile.

Here alsa has done its thing and created the necessary for 2 devices.

Taking my cue from BK’s approach in racy where, with an earlier version of alsa, he purges everything in rc.sysinit I wrote a standalone script to do the same. (slightly modified for the later version in 528 and catching a bit more)

Code: Select all

#!/bin/bash
rm -f /dev/*mixer* 2>/dev/null #changed to zap mixer, mixer 01, mixer02 etc
rm -f /dev/snd/*
rm -f /dev/snd/by-path/* #added for alsa v1.0.24
yaf-splash -close never -fontsize large -bg blue -fg white -timeout 5 -text "Now reboot!" &
The third shot shows having run the above and rebooted.
This last shot looks a lot better and is inline with what I see in Racy but with the extra directory /dev/snd/by-path. I like Barry’s approach and was contemplating suggesting that it be included in rc.sysinit . In particular it gets rid of any detritus already in the ISO as the clean state is saved.

At this point ISO 004 was posted !
With 004 the detritus comes back from the SFS due to the changes made and the clean state is not being saved. Running the script is negated upon reboot.
This post is therefore now food for thought as to which approach has the most merit and least risk. It may also be possible to just author a clean ISO (from the alsa point of view) in the first place.

Posted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 19:29
by playdayz
Taking my cue from BK’s approach in racy where, with an earlier version of alsa, he purges everything in rc.sysinit I wrote a standalone script to do the same. (slightly modified for the later version in 528 and catching a bit more)

Code:
#!/bin/bash
rm -f /dev/*mixer* 2>/dev/null #changed to zap mixer, mixer 01, mixer02 etc
rm -f /dev/snd/*
rm -f /dev/snd/by-path/* #added for alsa v1.0.24
yaf-splash -close never -fontsize large -bg blue -fg white -timeout 5 -text "Now reboot!" &
ETP, This was the next step, but the previous step (the 004 iso) seems to have "solved the problem," hopefully, but my fingers are still crossed. rerwin is working along similar lines for a more comprehensive revision--you might want to pm him and collaborate. We might go to something like a stable iso and a testing iso.

The 119 items in /dev/snd seem to be a product of Woof at the time, since they are present in the original Woof build. A related question is what remastering does to /dev/snd, as the 004 iso is remastered rather than built in Woof. rerwin would know about that too since he has enhanced the remaster script.

Ultimately BarryK is the one to hear the results of these investigations.