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Just discovered that NimbleX is back after a period of inactivity. NimbleX 2012 Beta......
http://forum.nimblex.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4166

Just gave it a quick live run....not bad. Full KDE4 with most everything included,newer up to date kernel and no, it's not 200 mb anymore.

Cool thanks for telling us. As I get it?
Nimblex where a kind of Slax or Slackware
with a personal touch? How does it work
compared to Proteus and other Slax versions?

Currently running Bodhi Linux 2.1.0 - a little disappointing imo 100+ mb increase in download size and 20-30mb increase in ram usage on my laptop from the previous version.

Been a while since i last tried crunchbang but think i will give that a go next.

stu91 wrote:Currently running Bodhi Linux 2.1.0 - a little disappointing imo 100+ mb increase in download size and 20-30mb increase in ram usage on my laptop from the previous version.

Been a while since i last tried crunchbang but think i will give that a go next.

Good idea IMO; Crunchbang's a bit dark for my taste but you can change that and it works very well even on an older machine.

The latest one I've tried is Sabayon X (Xfce version); the download was ridiculously slow but when I finally got there I found it to be a good distro with attractive wallpaper.

nooby wrote:Cool thanks for telling us. As I get it?
Nimblex where a kind of Slax or Slackware
with a personal touch? How does it work
compared to Proteus and other Slax versions?

All three are based on Slackware and use the Linux Live Scripts, or modified Linux Live Scripts in the case of Porteus. The previous versions of NimbleX were much smaller,200 mb or less, and mainly intended to run live or frugally.The newest Beta release is over 400 mb now.
I have no idea about running on NTFS though....

Has anyone tried Slax 7 ? I have it running on a Dell laptop 486.
Cheers

The *special* thing about NimbleX is that it lets you choose which programs to include in the iso you download. That means no more arguments about which text editor, browser, etc., should be included. No more need for all these derivatives which detract from the main release.

_redacted.

Colonel Panic wrote:

stu91 wrote:Currently running Bodhi Linux 2.1.0 - a little disappointing imo 100+ mb increase in download size and 20-30mb increase in ram usage on my laptop from the previous version.

Been a while since i last tried crunchbang but think i will give that a go next.

Good idea IMO; Crunchbang's a bit dark for my taste but you can change that and it works very well even on an older machine.

The latest one I've tried is Sabayon X (Xfce version); the download was ridiculously slow but when I finally got there I found it to be a good distro with attractive wallpaper.

Yes its been a while since i last used Crunchbang (pre puppy) if i remember it was pretty much all black.

Decided to crunchify Bodhi - base ram usage is about 75mb now so not to shabby, think i will leave it installed for a bit

stu91 wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:

stu91 wrote:Currently running Bodhi Linux 2.1.0 - a little disappointing imo 100+ mb increase in download size and 20-30mb increase in ram usage on my laptop from the previous version.

Been a while since i last tried crunchbang but think i will give that a go next.

Good idea IMO; Crunchbang's a bit dark for my taste but you can change that and it works very well even on an older machine.

The latest one I've tried is Sabayon X (Xfce version); the download was ridiculously slow but when I finally got there I found it to be a good distro with attractive wallpaper.

Yes its been a while since i last used Crunchbang (pre puppy) if i remember it was pretty much all black.

Decided to crunchify Bodhi - base ram usage is about 75mb now so not to shabby, think i will leave it installed for a bit

That looks really good. Love the wallpaper. Solar eclipse, a recent one?

Also, is that Conky in the background? I like the config there.

Zenwalk 7.2, which I installed today, is another good one IMO; just one app per function but they're all good and Youtube videos play"out of the box."

nooby wrote:Has any of you tested this one from Bell Lab?
The creators of Unix?
This one is named Plan9 and link is here
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/

Just tried this, failed miserably, and then read up on it. The principles behind the design are great, but it's just not usable, as a modern desktop OS at all. It's a shame too, because just reading the design principles makes me want for it to have left Linux in the dust years ago. Things could have been SOOO much nicer, and it would have been a dream base for Puppy. You know when you read about something that made perfect sense, should have been great, but got no attention for whatever reason and fizzled out of mainstream? That's Plan9, sadly.

Sorry if this was already addressed. I found the post with a Google search and there are too many pages of posts after it to bother reading them all now.

Is there a flavor of Linux that uses the Puppy style of "it's your computer, do what you will with it" root-for-all goodness that I love so much WITH complete support for a mainstream distro's repos?

Puppy gets closer to this all the time it seems(and it will be great when it happens), but still there is now too.

Thanks sketchman happy that you cared about it.
I know almost nothing about software so I just love
to read about people who have dreams and then sadly
their dreams does not get enough support for to find out
if it would had work in real life.

But we have at least Linux and hope we can keep it
so that the Patent Troll not sue us for using it.

sketchman wrote:

nooby wrote:Has any of you tested this one from Bell Lab?
The creators of Unix?
This one is named Plan9 and link is here
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/

Just tried this, failed miserably, and then read up on it. The principles behind the design are great, but it's just not usable, as a modern desktop OS at all. It's a shame too, because just reading the design principles makes me want for it to have left Linux in the dust years ago. Things could have been SOOO much nicer, and it would have been a dream base for Puppy. You know when you read about something that made perfect sense, should have been great, but got no attention for whatever reason and fizzled out of mainstream? That's Plan9, sadly.

Sorry if this was already addressed. I found the post with a Google search and there are too many pages of posts after it to bother reading them all now.

Is there a flavor of Linux that uses the Puppy style of "it's your computer, do what you will with it" root-for-all goodness that I love so much WITH complete support for a mainstream distro's repos?

Puppy gets closer to this all the time it seems(and it will be great when it happens), but still there is now too.

Eric S. Raymond wrote a good article about Plan 9 once. Here it is;

http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/plan9.html

Raymond says this amongst other things;

"Why didn't it take over the world?

One could argue for a lot of specific reasons — lack of any serious effort to market it, scanty documentation, much confusion and stumbling over fees and licensing. For those unfamiliar with Plan 9, it seemed to function mainly as a device for generating interesting papers on operating-systems research. But Unix itself had previously surmounted all these sorts of obstacles to attract a dedicated following that spread it worldwide. Why didn't Plan 9?

The long view of history may tell a different story, but in 2003 it looks like Plan 9 failed simply because it fell short of being a compelling enough improvement on Unix to displace its ancestor. Compared to Plan 9, Unix creaks and clanks and has obvious rust spots, but it gets the job done well enough to hold its position. There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most dangerous enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just good enough."

Colonel Panic wrote:Compared to Plan 9, Unix creaks and clanks and has obvious rust spots, but it gets the job done well enough to hold its position. There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most dangerous enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just good enough."

I read that too, thought about how infected the world is with Windows despite the plethora of Linux distros available, and had to smile and chuckle a bit.

It's funny how "just good enough" can hold the world back so easily.

I'm using Absolute 14.01 now and loving it. Logged in as root(with NO password ) for good, set up XFCE4, and will enjoy the luxury of a mainstream package repo for a good long while, ....hopefully .

sketchman wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:Compared to Plan 9, Unix creaks and clanks and has obvious rust spots, but it gets the job done well enough to hold its position. There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most dangerous enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just good enough."

I read that too, thought about how infected the world is with Windows despite the plethora of Linux distros available, and had to smile and chuckle a bit.

It's funny how "just good enough" can hold the world back so easily.

I'm using Absolute 14.01 now and loving it. Logged in as root(with NO password ) for good, set up XFCE4, and will enjoy the luxury of a mainstream package repo for a good long while, ....hopefully .

Great. How do you change the window manager in Absolute though? I tried and failed to get it to boot up in something other than IceWM (not that there's anything wrong with IceWM, but XFCE's got some additional features).

I installed Scientific Linux yesterday. It's quite good and stable but you have to install the plugins (such as Flash) yourself; they don't come as standard (unlike Stella). One cool feature it does have though is continually changing astronomical wallpaper.

Colonel Panic wrote:How do you change the window manager in Absolute though? I tried and failed to get it to boot up in something other than IceWM (not that there's anything wrong with IceWM, but XFCE's got some additional features).

As long as everything is installed properly from the Slackware repo, just set the option to use a text based login from the IceWM menu and reboot. Then login and type "startxfce4" instead of "startx". There is probably a more automated way to do it and have it boot straight into XFCE, but I'm not familiar with it.

Hello I will be trying out Zorin OS 6.1 soon. I heard it's "Ubuntu but better than Ubuntu" or something like that. Also reinstalled Windows XP because Windows games run better on it than on wine.

sketchman wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:How do you change the window manager in Absolute though? I tried and failed to get it to boot up in something other than IceWM (not that there's anything wrong with IceWM, but XFCE's got some additional features).

As long as everything is installed properly from the Slackware repo, just set the option to use a text based login from the IceWM menu and reboot. Then login and type "startxfce4" instead of "startx". There is probably a more automated way to do it and have it boot straight into XFCE, but I'm not familiar with it.

Thanks. I've got a DVD of Slackware 14 (rc5) so I could install the relevant packages from that instead of the online repos.

It would be good to be able to boot straight into XFCE though.

Been using Lubuntu 12.04 for over a month now, full install from live cd onto 6gb partition of 120GB SSD that also boots Windows 7, and can also boot Android 4.0 from sd card and Dpup Exprimo 5.15 from USB.

For the netvertible Lenovo S10-3t, Lubuntu 12.04 is the definitive Linux in terms of speed, cpu temperature control, and battery life. Fastest boot I've found and with a four-second shutdown.

Obviously, Lubuntu has the maddening root issues along with the other documented annoyances in this thread.

But this post:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerMan ... vingTweaks

and specifically, the Aggressive Link Power Management drops cpu temp 5-10 degrees C, and the battery life is the best I've found for the S10-3t, even better than Lenovo's own Win7 power management.

Of course, I use Puppy on my other laptops either b/c puppeee has good temp control or (with some machines) I don't need great battery life.

But ALPM is something definitely worth exploring if folks are interested in staying away from the a/c adapter.

Jake