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Stella looks good, and what a good, thorough review Colonel Panic cites. However, the boot time is a little too long for my taste. The leanness of Lubuntu makes things very zippy.

Though Stella has far better stock apps.

I've thinned Lubuntu even more, going with Midori 0.4.3 (0.4.7 got rid of its MenuBar for some reason) in place of Chromium.

Chromium allows so few visual adjustments to its GUI, it's ridiculous.

Jake

Not Linux but kind of cool to understand what will become of it?

Plasma Active 3

http://plasma-active.org/
http://kde.org/announcements/plasma-active-three/

About Plasma Active

Plasma Active is openly developed Free software.
Its reference implementation builds on the Mer operating system
and runs on a number of devices, including popular x86-based
tablet computers and ARM-based hardware such as the Archos G9 series.

Maybe it is something I fail to get so I do welcome a big laugh LOL
if it is not what it did seem to my naive reading.

nooby, that's a great find. I've never heard of plasma active before. Wonder if it works with a physical keyboard, and does it have a working word processor?

I couldn't tell, though it does seem to have KDE PIMs, and KDE has a word processor, right?

Jake

Hehe I have no idea what it is . I am not that bright.
One guy somewhere on internet told that it had borrowed
from BSE and IOS and Android? but that it where independent
of these. Maybe he wanted to create a flame war and just teased?

I trust the links should have all info needed. Reading wikipedia
I got the impression it is just another overlay but that is not how
they present it is it. So I would love that someone really getting it
would explain if it is a new thing or not?

Haha I am a pessimist. There only exist one OS and that is Unix
and variations of Unix? Just teasing.

edit When I where much younger I had a CP/M computer
but the commands did look almost as twin to DrDOS or MsDOS

where these really that much different from Unix?

Distrowatch list a few new ones core17 one of them.
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue ... 15#waiting
https://sites.google.com/site/corenlightenment/

is that not an odd url? sites.google.com?

Live CD/USB linux bootable operating system, with persistency.
A distro which is a remaster. (remix, Spin-off) of Tiny Core Linux,
featuring Enlightenment (DR17) desktop environment.

Thread about it on Tiny Core forum since august
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.ph ... 758.0.html

I have not looked there since a long long time
so I had no idea it even existed.
Those who develop TinyCore
are usually very cautious about any spin off
and have been very critical to such attempts
but wow august that is a long time and
his thread is still there so that guy must have
done something that they accept as okay to them?

So have any of you done a frugal install on NTFS
using core 17 or maybe it does only work on ext3?


Edit. I where wrong. He got in trouble with the TinyCore forum rules too.

Topic locked due to section forum rule.

« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2012, 01:54:09 AM »

So not sure what that means. Typical of TC forum to not explain
what it means.

Edit 2

Got it to boot on NTFS using the ntfs-3gz.gz something
But I find the E17 Enlighten to be slow on my Netbook
compared with the original Core-plus I write from Core Plus now
but don't understand much of it. I used maybe a crazy way to boot
I give details later have to reboot first.

Turing OS ? http://turingos.org/

Turing Linux is an operating system (OS) comprising a minimal base just sufficient to support VirtualBox (VB), providing quick access to other OSs. This is useful for teaching or learning GNU/Linux and for testing or exploring other OSs, without having to re-boot to switch between them. Multiple OSs can be run at the same time. It has 4 layers, ranging from the CLI-only core (and no VB), to core + GUI, to core + GUI + VB, to the enhanced layer which includes a few tools to make the distro usable for a few other basic common tasks (such as web browsing). Any of these layers could be used as a starting point for a new distro. Each layer also contains Remastersys which can be used to generate an ISO file of the current system.

Just buggfixing
http://ompldr.org/vZnd6ZA/dirty.jpg

Is it just me or has the community noticed the PCs that are being used by community members. They are using advance/current platforms which have much RAM and enormous CPU/MB capabilities.

This community may need to splinter into 2 groups: Those who have processors since 2006 with RAM all the way to 64GB, and, those who have pre-2006 PCs.

The distro developers must also continue to announce which class of PCs they are building and intend to support with their distros. The world of PCs have become much too broad.

And, lastly, even though I have publish little about it, KVM ability in CPUs have been around commonly since 2006. Maybe we'll need to splinter that off into "Virtual Puppy OS processing with KVM" and "Virtual OS processing without the assist feature".

We are approaching a time when we should begin to anticipate the coming wave of Touch implemented OSes that is changing what we do (whether we like it or not, change is ALWAYS met with resistance.....ALWAYS!!!)

Her to help

Yes I get that I should be able to google KVM
but felt unsure about it. Maybe you can edit
your post to include some explanation?

Netbooks are rather new but they are often
only 1GB at most and cheaper CPU that is
one kernel instead of 2 or 4 and most likely
not KVM eitehr whatever that is.

But they are very new I bought my three 2009 and 2010?
and the oldest maybe 2008?

so will 2006 really help?

and another thing. Each time somebody tell Developers
to do something then we lose then and they almost never get back
so I would prefer that one always praise and cheer them and never
ever tell them what they should do. We can not afford to lose them
that carelessly.

James C wrote:Manjaro Linux....... based on Arch and using k-3.4.9-1.
http://blog.manjaro.org/

I'm giving that one a try now as I've been looking for a good Arch-based distro for a whole now (ArchBang wouldn't install on my machine for some reason).

It's fast and works well but for me the default theme is way too dark and it's difficult to lighten it (I couldn't find a way to change the top button bar, even though everything else could be altered).

A number of distros seem to be almost black by default now, including ArchBang and CrunchBang; maybe it's a fashion or something but for me it's not a good one as it looks bleak and it's damn difficult to see what you're doing on an old monitor..

@Jakfish; I agree about Chromium. I think its designers sacrificed everything else (including configurability) for speed.

Colonel Panic wrote:

nooby wrote:Thanks, Surprise that that version of Bloathy produce ä and ö
on an English keyboard?

Yes, oops! It must have selected the wrong keyboard when it loaded. Sorry to anyone who struggled to read my post. It's a good distro anyway even if I can't use it at home at the moment.

I'm testing out Solus and Saline at the moment, two distros based on Debian. Saline uses XFCE as its desktop manager whereas Solus uses Gnome 2 instead. I like the look of Saline a bit better (lovely wallpaper of a school of dolphins swimming underwater, for a start), but Solus comes with Firefox as standard whereas I couldn't find a way to install Firefox from the live disk, so Solus was the one I installed.

It's my first day of using it but already it looks very impressive.

A quick update here; I'm now testing Saline (1.7). It's one of the best looking distros I've used but unfortunately it only uses "free" aps (i.e. not firefox, opera etc.) and Iceweasel crashes on youtube sometimes so I installed Iceape instead. You have to install flash too (I used flashplugin-nonfree).

Otherwise it's working fine so far. I think Swift 2, based on Mint Debian, is less trouble though not as visually attractive (it doesn't really aim to be).

DistroWatch announce Slax 7.0

they write
Tomáš Matějí

Trying out Zenlive 7.2....... seems pretty good so far.Another Slackware based distro with XFCE 4.10.

http://www.zenwalk.org/

Just finished an installation of Vector 7.0 Gold.Seems pretty quick. Sharing the hard drive with Xubuntu 12.04.1, Zenwalk 7.0 and a bunch of Pup's.

James C,..
VectorLinux has always been my all-time favorite for a "bigger" distro than Puppy (when I need a bigger distro than Puppy, that is...which isn't too often). However,....my VectorLinux 7 standard install CD seems to have gotten corrupted somehow. It no longer will install <alas>

I have just broke down and installed Slackware 14,....then used a LOT of the apps off of the VectorLinux CD to "flesh out" Slackware. Stuff like Opera,...Flash,...Win32 codecs,...and the Wine package, (from the Salix repositories). Seems to work fine.

Plus,...Doing a full install of Slackware,..with KDE and the KDEgames (then using just the smaller XFCE desktop)...gives me the games for my grandson,....but a smaller DE for me. But I actually prefer VectorLinix over Slackware.

I am not a proponent for Microsoft or Apple. Or, even Linux. I can use them all for productive work.

I am a proponent for ease of use and "simple user use" of every system design and implementation I've ever been a part of.

One of the things that I find important is the understanding of the design intent by what is put forward for enterprise, business, consumer, casual use.

In doing so, I try as best as I can to guide people on need (requirements) and on desire (Ihow user(s) like to work) as being the MOST important approaches.

One of the most recent changes in the technology landscape is being introduced this week by Microsoft in its Surface and its Window8. The IT landscape is moving to Tablet orientations started by Apple. We are on the doorstep of a in your hand revolution that has gotten much traction in enterprises and governments this year with its roots starting from users using seemingly easy to understand devices in their hands.

One of the problems many of us will have is understanding and keeping clear on what Microsoft is offering. There are 2 CPU versions of Windows8s that kinda look like twins. They are not, but, its important to understand what one has over the other.

Here some understanding
and, there are several others that have posted this week, too.

Again, I MUST RE-iterate....This is neither a recommendation or an endorsement of Apple or Microsoft or LInux or REACTOS or UNIX or .... Its just some information for community understanding.

I installed Bodhi 2.1.0 64 bit version, using gnome.
I like it.

nitehawk wrote:James C,..
VectorLinux has always been my all-time favorite for a "bigger" distro than Puppy (when I need a bigger distro than Puppy, that is...which isn't too often). However,....my VectorLinux 7 standard install CD seems to have gotten corrupted somehow. It no longer will install <alas>

I have just broke down and installed Slackware 14,....then used a LOT of the apps off of the VectorLinux CD to "flesh out" Slackware. Stuff like Opera,...Flash,...Win32 codecs,...and the Wine package, (from the Salix repositories). Seems to work fine.

Plus,...Doing a full install of Slackware,..with KDE and the KDEgames (then using just the smaller XFCE desktop)...gives me the games for my grandson,....but a smaller DE for me. But I actually prefer VectorLinix over Slackware.

Sounds good; I've got an old release candidate of Slack 14 somewhere that I've been meaning to install.

I've always liked Vector too, but these days I feel it's underdeveloped. For example, it offers you a choice of window managers other than the default XFce, which is good, but if you choose Fluxbox the menu isn't set up properly for the apps which come with it; you have to do that yourself.

And for some strange reason the default app for opening pdf files is gimp (a problem it shares with some arch-based distros).

I've reinstalled AntiX but am having trouble installing any new apps (!), so I'm off to their forum next to find out how to access some more repos.

I installed ubuntu 12.10 64 bit version on a newer hp desktop.
It's fast and running well althought a popup wanting a bug report came
up a couple of times, to do with compiz.

EDIT: I added mint 13 xfce4 to another partition on the hard drive and it's working well.
Bodhi,Ubuntu 12.10, and Mint 13 xfce4 are all nice, I think Mint is the one that I'll use most.

When it comes to Ubuntu, I prefer the latest LTS release over the current releases. It saves me a lot of time.