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Posted: Wed 20 Apr 2011, 01:01
by tubeguy
With Gkrellm and icewm. LOVE that wallpaper!
Also FF 4 and Aqualung.
Posted: Wed 20 Apr 2011, 01:51
by 01micko
rcrsn51 wrote:Spup-100 is suffering from the same problem as Lupu-525. If you boot off a flash drive with no internal hard drive, you get "Searching deeper .. spup_100.sfs not found".
I'm betting that the latest Wary does the same thing.
[Edit] It does.
Confirmed. Also confirmed by 'perthie' on BK's blog.
Posted: Wed 20 Apr 2011, 02:54
by Lobster
Been using Spup with the ATI crystal graphic to watch streaming video.
Been using Xchat and Seamonkey.
Got a bit confused adding Xaralx from slackware but got it working well enough to use. The dependency thing is difficult to sort out for those of us weaned on Quickpet . . .
Seems a solid spup to me
regular loss of connection.
Posted: Wed 20 Apr 2011, 08:54
by Béèm
No pattern to detect could be every minute or so, but could be also long periods in between, but regularly I loose my connection.
Having then the url not found message from the browser.
I found out, that when waiting a bit and retrying, I have access again.
Quite annoying and don't know how to diagnose further.
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eth1 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"WiFi_9C" Nickname:"ipw2100"
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz Access Point: 00:23:08:E4:98:9C
Bit Rate=11 Mb/s Tx-Power:16 dBm
Retry short limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Encryption key:XXXX-XXXX-XX Security mode:restricted
Power Management:off
Link Quality=98/100 Signal level=-58 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:4
#
If someone has an idea?
Re: regular loss of connection.
Posted: Wed 20 Apr 2011, 11:44
by peebee
Béèm wrote:No pattern to detect could be every minute or so, but could be also long periods in between, but regularly I loose my connection.
Hi Beem
Have you tried the lupu stay-connected pet:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=1095
Cheers
Peter
Posted: Wed 20 Apr 2011, 13:13
by Béèm
peebee, I forgot about that one.
Hopefully it'll work in spup being made for lucid as far as I see.
But for me it masks the underlying problem.
Posted: Wed 20 Apr 2011, 13:52
by rcrsn51
Béèm wrote:peebee, I forgot about that one.
Hopefully it'll work in spup being made for lucid as far as I see.
But for me it masks the underlying problem.
The original stay-connected is
here. I'm a little surprised that it has gone from being a quick fix to a standard Puppy wifi repair tool.
Here is my (limited) understanding of the issue. Some wireless routers periodically poll their clients to see if they are still active. Some clients, when idle, won't respond. So the connection is dropped. I don't know if this is a function of the client's wifi adapter driver or WEP/WPA or something else.
Posted: Wed 20 Apr 2011, 14:38
by DaveS
LOL... Gnumeric hangs when selecting ALL Cells, then selecting 'format all cells' from the right click pop-up in a .ods document. To be fair, that is a pretty extreme command, so irrelevant I think
Posted: Wed 20 Apr 2011, 17:44
by Béèm
rcrsn51 wrote:Béèm wrote:peebee, I forgot about that one.
Hopefully it'll work in spup being made for lucid as far as I see.
But for me it masks the underlying problem.
The original stay-connected is
here. I'm a little surprised that it has gone from being a quick fix to a standard Puppy wifi repair tool.
Here is my (limited) understanding of the issue. Some wireless routers periodically poll their clients to see if they are still active. Some clients, when idle, won't respond. So the connection is dropped. I don't know if this is a function of the client's wifi adapter driver or WEP/WPA or something else.
Thanks for the update and explanation.
It seems to me that I have this problem more often with the latest puppy's of Lucid,spup with the same router/WiFi adapter.
Maybe a WiFi adapter driver issue? A newer kernel?
My laptop isn't the newest one.
Posted: Wed 20 Apr 2011, 17:57
by rcrsn51
@Béèm: Does stay-connected fix your problem?
Posted: Wed 20 Apr 2011, 18:34
by Béèm
rcrsn51 wrote:@Béèm: Does stay-connected fix your problem?
I haven't installed yet as the last couple of hours I didn't have any interruptions. Amazing.
As soon as I start to have interruptions again, I'll try it. And report back.
Posted: Wed 20 Apr 2011, 21:15
by DaveS
01micko wrote:Code: Select all
<Group>
<Name>igucal</Name>
<Option>nolist</Option>
<Option>layer:12</Option>
</Group>
Add that to /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc, run "fixmenus", restart JWM.
Thanks for this info Mick. Using it, I have been able to assign icons of choice to display when using an iconified tasklist (my preference)...cool
Like This:
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<Group>
<Name>tkspider</Name>
<Option>icon:games48.png</Option>
</Group>
spup-100 built from latest woof
Posted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 12:36
by Billtoo
I did a frugal install of spup on an hp desktop which has two monitors
connected to it.
Display
Resolution 3840x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer ATI Radeon HD 5570
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
OpenGL
Vendor ATI Technologies Inc.
Renderer ATI Radeon HD 5570
Version 4.1.10600 Compatibility Profile Context
Direct Rendering Yes
# glxgears
39856 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7971.128 FPS
40467 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8093.214 FPS
40449 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8089.608 FPS
40508 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8101.524 FPS
#
It's working nice on this pc.
Posted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 13:25
by rcrsn51
01micko wrote:rcrsn51 wrote:Spup-100 is suffering from the same problem as Lupu-525. If you boot off a flash drive with no internal hard drive, you get "Searching deeper .. spup_100.sfs not found".
I'm betting that the latest Wary does the same thing.
[Edit] It does.
Confirmed. Also confirmed by 'perthie' on BK's blog.
Wow. I'm surprised how fast this issue fell off the radar, considering Puppy's mandate to support old hardware. BTW, Minnesota deserves full credit for reporting this problem and identifying the cause.
I'm also surprised by the lack of interest in the BootFlash issue, since it affects any future Puppy built with Syslinux 4.
(I'm Perthie)
Posted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 13:35
by nooby
I should not comment at all due to lack of knowledge but this exchange give me the impression that one need two different puppies?
One group of puppies that works well pm older computers and then some puppies that try to use the latest gear and work well on them?
To combine both seems not easy is it?
I mean even Lupu520 failed on my relatively new Acer D250 and that one is only at most 2 or 3 years now? So what is older then. Computers from 2003 to me is older maybe okay every computer with less than 250 MB as default installed?
Posted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 13:46
by 01micko
rcrsn51 wrote:Wow. I'm surprised how fast this issue fell off the radar, considering Puppy's mandate to support old hardware. BTW, Minnesota deserves full credit for reporting this problem and identifying the cause.
Well I guess we better press the issue. It's a true showstopper. IIRC it may have began with the "simple filenames" (circa 11/2010). There is also something affecting dvd/cd saveback (pupmode=77) installs, though I need to do more testing for concrete proof/evidence on that one.
Concerning the usb bug, I first heard of the issue on IRC earlier this week.. I was embarrassed to respond as I had just seen Minnesota's post. Didn't believe it at first but didn't deny it either. Was that you too?
Posted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 21:19
by smokey01
01micko wrote:rcrsn51 wrote:Wow. I'm surprised how fast this issue fell off the radar, considering Puppy's mandate to support old hardware. BTW, Minnesota deserves full credit for reporting this problem and identifying the cause.
Well I guess we better press the issue. It's a true showstopper. IIRC it may have began with the "simple filenames" (circa 11/2010). There is also something affecting dvd/cd saveback (pupmode=77) installs, though I need to do more testing for concrete proof/evidence on that one.
Mick I haven't tested the dvd/cd saveback on spup-100 but I can confirm it doesn't work on lupu-525.
Edit: I just tested the dvd/cd saveback with spup-100 and I can confirm it doesn't work either.
I even tried setting the cd/dvd device from the setup menu to make sure that wasn't the culprit.
Looks like it might be a woof script problem. Is Barry aware?
libraries missing
Posted: Fri 22 Apr 2011, 04:58
by turf
i installed firefox and dependencies shows
missing libs:
libmozalloc.so
libmozsqlite3.so
libxul.so
where can i get these libs and how can i add them?
Re: libraries missing
Posted: Fri 22 Apr 2011, 12:43
by 01micko
turf wrote:i installed firefox and dependencies shows
missing libs:
libmozalloc.so
libmozsqlite3.so
libxul.so
where can i get these libs and how can i add them?
Where on earth did you get your firefox package?
If you go to the PPM (puppy package manager, menu>setup>) you'll see a button for the spup repo. Enable that, choose the Internet category and get Firefox, no dependency issues, posting from said now, and it's Firefox 4.
Posted: Fri 22 Apr 2011, 12:48
by pemasu
Firefox can sometimes give you some trouble. But The Chosen One is real beast. Firefox is no match to it.
http://alanbecker.deviantart.com/art/An ... I-50891749