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New installation of Quirky 6.0.5 to a usb 3.0 hard drive running on a Mac mini pc.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 10 May 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 Linux 3.12.6 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller:
Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.0
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 10.0.1

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 2: @1200 3: @1200 MHz

It's working great.

I installed the 3.12.11 kernel pet that BarryK posted in his blog. I was expecting to see the kernel version that uname -a reports change from 3.12.6 to 3.12.11, but it didn't. So how can I make sure that after installing the kernel pet QT effectively runs the new kernel? Or is there something else I need to do to enable the new kernel?

EDIT 1 - It appears that this dotpet is intended for the Woof build system, so I need to build a new image. Back to study... [Forum time now 25 May 2014, 02:05]

EDIT 2 - For deployment: need to replace vmlinuz in the first partition of the USB key image file. [Forum time now 25 May 2014, 04:29]

EDIT 3 - Indeed installing this dotpet and copying one file is enough to boot up kernel 3.12.11 - no need to recompile or use woof2. This dotpet overwrites three files and adds a bunch of new files, so first we're going to make backup copies:

# cp /boot/vmlinuz /boot/vmlinuz.3.12.6
# cp /etc/modules/modules.builtin /etc/modules/modules.builtin.3.12.6
# cp /etc/modules/modules.order /etc/modules/modules.order.3.12.6

Now go ahead and install the dotpet. Finally, if you installed QT on a USB key, copy the new kernel file to your actual boot partition. Shutdown QT and connect the USB key to another puppy. Assuming that /dev/sdb is your USB key:

# mkdir -p /mnt/sdb1 /mnt/sdb2
# mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
# mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/sdb2

# cp /mnt/usb1/vmlinuz /mnt/usb1/vmlinuz.3.12.6 # backup
# cp /mnt/sdb2/boot/vmlinuz /mnt/sdb1/vmlinuz

Disconnect and reboot QT with this USB key. Check results:
# uname -a # should report 3.12.11
# dmesg | grep -E 'zram|aufs' # should output two lines

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but you did reboot before running uname didn't you?

Keef wrote:Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but you did reboot before running uname didn't you?

Yes, I did.

Hi step,

Before you installed the kernel dotpet had you installed the devx-6.0.5-tahr.pet and the kernel_src-3.12.6-patched.sfs?
The kernel dotpet, will I suspect, at least require the tools in the devx. A reboot after installing those and before installing the kernel dotpet might be a good idea.

The kernel source sfs can be found here: http://www.bkhome.org/sources/kernel-3.12.6/

Hi ETP, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have edited my post to reflect where I'm going next: Woof Woof studying

X windows doesn't come up. I installed version 6.1.4. Console video is fine. The laptop has a 32 mb nvidia geforce2 m video in it capable of 1600x1200 (comes up as NV11) but with fewer colors on its LVDS screen.

The odd thing is that the log said that the nouveau module wasn't found.

The reason i was trying this particular distro is because I read a review I really liked, and it has a newer kernel and xorg, which usually is a good thing with this computer.

Any ideas how to get x working?

thanks....

bobc wrote:I installed version 6.1.4.

This thread is about version 6.0.x Tahr, which I think is quite different from version 6.1.x (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 is newer than Quirky 6.1.4 and it installs to the HDD or to a usb key/HDD only.

step wrote:

bobc wrote:I installed version 6.1.4.

This thread is about version 6.0.x Tahr, which I think is quite different from version 6.1.x (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 is newer than Quirky 6.1.4 and it installs to the HDD or to a usb key/HDD only.

Sorry, I thought this was the Quirky thread because it was the only Quirky thread I found.

X worked fine on tahrpuppy-5.8.0.7, but that came from a link on the tahr puppy thread

Anyway, your answer actually led me to an answer to my question. I'm the release text for the Tahr 6.0.5 it says that the other xorg drivers are not included with quirky, which explains why X windows doesn't work.

Sorry for posting in the wrong thread. I didn't know there was more than one Quirky.

I downloaded the quirky-20140419.tar.gz from ibiblio and used it to produce Quirky
Tahr 6.0.6.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Thu 5 Jun 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.6 Linux 3.12.11 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.1
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 2: @1200 3: @1200 MHz

I'm running it from a sdhc card and it's working but has some of the same
problems as Tahr Puppy.

Lxterminal,htop and Chromium from PPM work fine, Firefox didn't.
The latest VLC 2.1.4 is installed OOTB.

It took approx 5 hours to produce using the Quirky build system, and
I most likely made an error or two.

Pemasu, where are you?

EDIT:
I switched to icewm,added some apps from PPM including xbmc-12.3
Can't get kdegames to work yet

Pretty bored so did another install of Quirky Tahr 6.0.5. No troubles at all.

I built another Quirky 6.0.6 with the Quirky build system, added the
pae kernel from Slacko 5.7 this time (hope that's okay).

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun 8 Jun 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.6 Linux 3.10.32 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.1
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

The PPM isn't working properly, it gives a "faulty download" error
when it downloads anything.
I've compiled a few things (conky,lxterminal,htop,dillo) plus
installed an icewm pet for wary from the forum.

Apart from the PPM problem this is working well.

EDIT: Installing dpkg_1.17.5ubuntu5.2_i386.deb from packages.ubuntu.net fixed PPM.

Are Quirky and Quirky "Tahr" 64-bit only?

I burned a CD with Quirky "Tahr" and it won't boot. I am assuming I need 64-bit when I have only two 32-bit machines.

Will it work if I put the two 32-bit machines together to make a whole 64-bit? Hee hee.

But seriously, folks, can I run Quirky and Quirky "Tahr" on these machines?

Blackfish wrote:Are Quirky and Quirky "Tahr" 64-bit only?

Both are 32 bit releases and run on either 32 or 64 bit hardware.

Thanks.

I wonder why they won't boot?

Maybe something went wrong with the creation of the CD. I dunno. I will keep trying.

Ah, now I see what went wrong. The file I downloaded is an .xz file. I need an .iso file. Where can I download that? I don't know how to open an .xz file.

I mean to say, all these other Puppy distros I have used were easy. Just download the .iso, burn it to CD, and boot-up.

This .xz thing does not boot. Or does it? What do I not know but need to know here?

Blackfish wrote:Ah, now I see what went wrong. The file I downloaded is an .xz file

There are two ways to install Quirky distro
therefore two scripts are available.

You should carefully read Barry's instructions

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... ky-6.1.htm

If you install the xz file then you should use precise 5.7.1.

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don570 wrote:
If you install the xz file then you should use precise 5.7.1.

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You mean to say I should have Precise Pup 5.7.1 installed on the hard drive in order to use this file?

Method A: If you are going to install quirky using quirky-6.1.usfs.xz to a USB stick,
then you run install-quirky-to-drive.sh from Precise puppy 5.7.1.


The method D mentioned by Barry in his install notes is the easiest of all
and I don't think there is any restrictions in what version of linux
(or even Windows) that is used. It's fast and not as confusing as method A.


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I built another Quirky 6.0.6 with the Quirky build system which is
downloadable here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/project/
The build system that is, not the one that I made, it's not available
anywhere
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3227U CPU @ 1.90GHz
Memory 3436MB (60MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Tahr
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Tue 10 Jun 2014 02:24:26 PM EDT
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 3.12.11 (i686)
Version #1 SMP Fri Mar 14 19:14:25 GMT-8 2014
C Library GNU C Library version 2.19 (stable)
Distribution Quirky Tahr
Display
Resolution 1366x768 pixels
Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Version 1.15.1
OpenGL
Vendor Intel Open Source Technology Center
Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
Version 3.0 Mesa 10.1.3
Direct Rendering Yes

I needed to install xauth_1.0.7 from PPM before kdegames would install
in PPM,dbus-1.2.4.2permissive-q1.pet,dbus_DEV-1.2.4.2permissive-q1.pet,dbus-glib-0.82-q1.pet,and dbus-glib_DEV-0.82-q1.pet were needed to get kdegames working after installing it in PPM.
Another that needed extra dependencies installed was xbmc-12.3,
libx264-142_0.142.2389+git956c8d8-2 and libcaca0_0.99.beta18 which
were available in PPM.
I found the dbus pets here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_packages-common/

I also needed to install mesa and all it's dependencies in PPM even
though some showed up as already installed, then did a reboot and
direct rendering was working, xbmc won't work if direct rendering isn't working.

The latest openssl was included in the build:
# openssl version -b
built on: Mon Jun 2 19:23:47 UTC 2014
#
Vlc is version 2.1.4

This is running from a 32gb usb 3.0 flash drive and I chose ext4 in the Quirky
installer.
I ran the Quirky installer from my Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 install.

Anyway, this is working well and I hope this info is helpful to anyone
that wants to give the Quirky build system a try, needs a high speed
internet connection and about 10gb free space for the build
directory, and several hours to complete.
It was fun but I'm not going to do it again anytime soon