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Thanks @Cinclus_Cinclus. You re-enforce the case I wrote about. The post describing those cases could be worded a little more accurately. But, I think, by now, most have gotten the message we share with better clarity.

What I had found is that any system that has "xz" support correctly writes the USB for booting in this distro's case. There was no requirement for f2fs as it only confused things in understanding where that specific case/command was used to generate the USB.

Thanks again for pointing this out.

Running Quirky 6.0.5 from a 32gb usb 3.0 flash drive, pc is a compaq
Presario S6700NX desktop pc.
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky Tahr, version 6.0.5
Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (rev 01)
Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (Secondary) (rev 01)
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Modules requested to not be loaded: glx
Drivers requested to be loaded: modesetting
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): modesetting
Loaded modules: dbe extmod fb kbd mouse shadow
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory 1553MB (269MB used)

This is an older install that was moved to this pc, updated to 6.0.5,
updated PPM and added Firefox 29.0,libxrandr2_1.4.2-1 and
arandr_0.1.7.1-1

It's working well.

I moved my 32gb usb 3.0 flash drive from the compaq desktop to a
gateway desktop pc in order to use the proprietary nvidia driver.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun 4 May 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 Linux 3.12.6 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.15.0
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1204x343 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 331.67

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Core 0: @1600 1: @1600 2: @1600 3: @1600 4: @1600 5: @1600 6: @1600 7: @1600 MHz

Added xbmc 12.3 from PPM.

just moved a flash drive install to a different machine. quirky tahr 6.5 (four?) connected, booted, did everything well in its new location. new machine had what i thought were hard drive issues, but it's grinding and grumbling with it removed so i guess it's a fan issue or some other moving part...think that's the last remaining one though. anyway, i remember this being a question at some earlier time and, yes, you can move a usb installation of quirky tahr from computer to computer. (in this case, a dell and an asus netbook) and have it go smoothly. all my autostart/automount stuff went correctly, it synced with drop box after having been on a shelf for a couple of weeks...

very nice.

Puppus Dogfellow wrote:just moved a flash drive install to a different machine. ... it [went] smoothly...
very nice.

I agree, moving a flash drive install from PC to PC goes smoothly with QT 6.0.5. It's one of the reasons I like it; using the same configuration on all PCs. I moved the same usb key from/to a dell notebook, two acer notebooks, two hp notebooks, a samsung netbook and even a couple of old desktops. Had zero issues so far.

New installation of Quirky 6.0.5 to a usb 3.0 hard drive running on a Mac mini pc.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 10 May 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 Linux 3.12.6 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller:
Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.0
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 10.0.1

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 2: @1200 3: @1200 MHz

It's working great.

I installed the 3.12.11 kernel pet that BarryK posted in his blog. I was expecting to see the kernel version that uname -a reports change from 3.12.6 to 3.12.11, but it didn't. So how can I make sure that after installing the kernel pet QT effectively runs the new kernel? Or is there something else I need to do to enable the new kernel?

EDIT 1 - It appears that this dotpet is intended for the Woof build system, so I need to build a new image. Back to study... [Forum time now 25 May 2014, 02:05]

EDIT 2 - For deployment: need to replace vmlinuz in the first partition of the USB key image file. [Forum time now 25 May 2014, 04:29]

EDIT 3 - Indeed installing this dotpet and copying one file is enough to boot up kernel 3.12.11 - no need to recompile or use woof2. This dotpet overwrites three files and adds a bunch of new files, so first we're going to make backup copies:

# cp /boot/vmlinuz /boot/vmlinuz.3.12.6
# cp /etc/modules/modules.builtin /etc/modules/modules.builtin.3.12.6
# cp /etc/modules/modules.order /etc/modules/modules.order.3.12.6

Now go ahead and install the dotpet. Finally, if you installed QT on a USB key, copy the new kernel file to your actual boot partition. Shutdown QT and connect the USB key to another puppy. Assuming that /dev/sdb is your USB key:

# mkdir -p /mnt/sdb1 /mnt/sdb2
# mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
# mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/sdb2

# cp /mnt/usb1/vmlinuz /mnt/usb1/vmlinuz.3.12.6 # backup
# cp /mnt/sdb2/boot/vmlinuz /mnt/sdb1/vmlinuz

Disconnect and reboot QT with this USB key. Check results:
# uname -a # should report 3.12.11
# dmesg | grep -E 'zram|aufs' # should output two lines

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but you did reboot before running uname didn't you?

Keef wrote:Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but you did reboot before running uname didn't you?

Yes, I did.

Hi step,

Before you installed the kernel dotpet had you installed the devx-6.0.5-tahr.pet and the kernel_src-3.12.6-patched.sfs?
The kernel dotpet, will I suspect, at least require the tools in the devx. A reboot after installing those and before installing the kernel dotpet might be a good idea.

The kernel source sfs can be found here: http://www.bkhome.org/sources/kernel-3.12.6/

Hi ETP, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have edited my post to reflect where I'm going next: Woof Woof studying

X windows doesn't come up. I installed version 6.1.4. Console video is fine. The laptop has a 32 mb nvidia geforce2 m video in it capable of 1600x1200 (comes up as NV11) but with fewer colors on its LVDS screen.

The odd thing is that the log said that the nouveau module wasn't found.

The reason i was trying this particular distro is because I read a review I really liked, and it has a newer kernel and xorg, which usually is a good thing with this computer.

Any ideas how to get x working?

thanks....

bobc wrote:I installed version 6.1.4.

This thread is about version 6.0.x Tahr, which I think is quite different from version 6.1.x (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 is newer than Quirky 6.1.4 and it installs to the HDD or to a usb key/HDD only.

step wrote:

bobc wrote:I installed version 6.1.4.

This thread is about version 6.0.x Tahr, which I think is quite different from version 6.1.x (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 is newer than Quirky 6.1.4 and it installs to the HDD or to a usb key/HDD only.

Sorry, I thought this was the Quirky thread because it was the only Quirky thread I found.

X worked fine on tahrpuppy-5.8.0.7, but that came from a link on the tahr puppy thread

Anyway, your answer actually led me to an answer to my question. I'm the release text for the Tahr 6.0.5 it says that the other xorg drivers are not included with quirky, which explains why X windows doesn't work.

Sorry for posting in the wrong thread. I didn't know there was more than one Quirky.

I downloaded the quirky-20140419.tar.gz from ibiblio and used it to produce Quirky
Tahr 6.0.6.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Thu 5 Jun 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.6 Linux 3.12.11 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.1
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 2: @1200 3: @1200 MHz

I'm running it from a sdhc card and it's working but has some of the same
problems as Tahr Puppy.

Lxterminal,htop and Chromium from PPM work fine, Firefox didn't.
The latest VLC 2.1.4 is installed OOTB.

It took approx 5 hours to produce using the Quirky build system, and
I most likely made an error or two.

Pemasu, where are you?

EDIT:
I switched to icewm,added some apps from PPM including xbmc-12.3
Can't get kdegames to work yet

Pretty bored so did another install of Quirky Tahr 6.0.5. No troubles at all.

I built another Quirky 6.0.6 with the Quirky build system, added the
pae kernel from Slacko 5.7 this time (hope that's okay).

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun 8 Jun 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.6 Linux 3.10.32 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.1
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

The PPM isn't working properly, it gives a "faulty download" error
when it downloads anything.
I've compiled a few things (conky,lxterminal,htop,dillo) plus
installed an icewm pet for wary from the forum.

Apart from the PPM problem this is working well.

EDIT: Installing dpkg_1.17.5ubuntu5.2_i386.deb from packages.ubuntu.net fixed PPM.

Are Quirky and Quirky "Tahr" 64-bit only?

I burned a CD with Quirky "Tahr" and it won't boot. I am assuming I need 64-bit when I have only two 32-bit machines.

Will it work if I put the two 32-bit machines together to make a whole 64-bit? Hee hee.

But seriously, folks, can I run Quirky and Quirky "Tahr" on these machines?

Blackfish wrote:Are Quirky and Quirky "Tahr" 64-bit only?

Both are 32 bit releases and run on either 32 or 64 bit hardware.

Thanks.

I wonder why they won't boot?

Maybe something went wrong with the creation of the CD. I dunno. I will keep trying.