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Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 02:46
by Tman
I compiled LXTerminal and its dependency, vte in Exprimo SMP. ( no problem :wink: )
The standard urxvt terminal does not have a copy and paste function (as far as I know).

My only problem with LXTerminal is that it won't load the /root/.bashrc file at startup, so I have to type . /root/.bashrc after LXTerminal launches.
If anyone has found a more automated way to do this, please let me know.

http://www.smokey01.com/Tman/apps/dpup-apps/lxterminal/
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Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 21:46
by Jim1911
Hi pemasu,

I requested some Bible software for linux on the Saluki thread which would also be great additions to Dpup Exprimo if you or someone else could prepare them. It's above my skill level. These are both super Bible resources for Linux.

1. Bibletime Bible study software for linux. Size probably will require sfs. Also see Bibletime here.
2. Xiphos Bible study software for linux. Size probably will require sfs.

Thanks,
Jim

Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 22:38
by pemasu
http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/QT-4.8.0-dpup/bible/

It has needed clucene, sword and bibletime. You need also Qt4-4.8.0 libs....basic or essentials are ok.
Bibletime didnt launch from menu entry for me....but from console "bibletime" it starts ok. You can increase the font size by using qtconfig, launch it from console.

I dont know how workable the result is...my first time to compile those.

Anyway...I was last weekend in funeral of true christian believer. He had spent a lot of his retired time with church activities. His funerals were really touching. The priest had known him many years...his old friends told stories of his religion activities...

So...your asking came at the good moment :D

Xiphos wants Gnome 3 and gnome libs. I am afraid it is out of exprimo territory :D

Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 23:29
by Jim1911
Hi pemasu,

WOW, that was super quick. :D Thank you, IMO, of the two I requested, Bibletime is a better choice than Xiphos, although it would be good to have both.

However, it's not working on my laptop. I'll give it another try on my desktop.

Terminal error

Code: Select all

# bibletime
(BibleTime 2.9.1) FATAL: Error initializing directory cache!
Please report this bug! (http://www.bibletime.info/development_help.html)Aborted
# 
System info report shows software installed.

Your Exprimo continues to work great. It's fast, stable, and has almost everything.

Thanks again,
Jim

Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 23:32
by pemasu
Jim1911. Yes I got that also. But somehow it started to work after couple of restarts. I dont think that I did anything special. Of yeah...I tested with 'strace bibletime' what stops it...and I noticed that it was indexing something...and a lot...and then the bibletime worked.

Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 23:43
by Jim1911
pemasu wrote:Jim1911. Yes I got that also. But somehow it started to work after couple of restarts. I dont think that I did anything special. Of yeah...I tested with 'strace bibletime' what stops it...and I noticed that it was indexing something...and a lot...and then the bibletime worked.
Reboot and restart X don't help. I can't find the strace command.

I'm headed to my desktop to give it a try there. Also looking forward to seeing your new kernel. Exprimo continues to get faster and better.

Thanks,
Jim

Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 23:45
by pemasu
Strace can be find straight from debian repo. I just dont understand how it could achieve the fixing. It just traces all system calls and shows them. But...it started to work immediately after using it.
Strange...I need to test with fresh frugal install without all my development stuff installed.

Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 23:52
by Jim1911
pemasu wrote:Jim1911. Yes I got that also. But somehow it started to work after couple of restarts. I dont think that I did anything special. Of yeah...I tested with 'strace bibletime' what stops it...and I noticed that it was indexing something...and a lot...and then the bibletime worked.
I get the same error on my desktop.

Thanks,
Jim

Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 23:55
by pemasu
Maybe google that error message would give some light to the problem. Task for tomorrow.

Also launching bibletime in debug mode would be good idea: # bibletime --debug

Posted: Mon 05 Mar 2012, 08:53
by pemasu
Okay...new day...
I have debugged bibletime with strace command. The launching stops when it does not find /usr/share/bibletime/locale folder.
When I did install bibletime_NLS pet....bibletime launches immediately.

So...I have now repackaged bibletime so that NLS stuff are inside. Bibletime just wants localization to be included....so it is also babeltime... :D

Posted: Mon 05 Mar 2012, 10:15
by jpeps
pemasu wrote:Okay...new day...
I have debugged bibletime with strace command. The launching stops when it does not find /usr/share/bibletime/locale folder.
When I did install bibletime_NLS pet....bibletime launches immediately.

So...I have now repackaged bibletime so that NLS stuff are inside. Bibletime just wants localization to be included....so it is also babeltime... :D
works...

Although it takes far less resources to read Mark Twain

Posted: Mon 05 Mar 2012, 15:53
by Jim1911
pemasu wrote:Okay...new day...
I have debugged bibletime with strace command. The launching stops when it does not find /usr/share/bibletime/locale folder.
When I did install bibletime_NLS pet....bibletime launches immediately.

So...I have now repackaged bibletime so that NLS stuff are inside. Bibletime just wants localization to be included....so it is also babeltime... :D
It works great. I've posted info about it on the Bibletime thread and the same info on the HOWTO set up your own Bible study thread.

Thank you for providing us with this fine program from the CrossWire Bible Society.

Jim

Posted: Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:27
by jakfish
Running Dpup Exprimo on Lenovo Ideapad S10-3t multi-touch netbook.

Great pup, and many thanks for it. All is well except touch screen: screen resolution, wifi, sound, touchpad. Everything is fine. It's a first-rate OS.

The S10-3t needs cando drivers, but I do not find the hid-cando.ko (googling tells me the driver should be stock in kernels beyond 2.7)

For yucks, I followed tempestuous's HowTo Touch Screen, then modprobed hid-multitouch.ko. That activated the touch screen, but without any kind of calibration.

I was wondering if there were any suggestions/workarounds. I tried a remastered snowpup that had a cando driver, and I got the exact same problem: touch screen, but hopelessly uncalibrated.

I'm coming from an eee 900//puppeee setup, a wondrous setup, and so is yours.

All best,
Jake

Posted: Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:32
by pemasu
There isnt module hid-cando in kernel 3.1.10 specs. I wonder what module do its job. Needs investigating.

Posted: Fri 09 Mar 2012, 13:59
by pemasu
What I have found so far....

CONFIG_HID_MULTITOUCH: HID Multitouch panels
General informations

The Linux kernel configuration item CONFIG_HID_MULTITOUCH:

prompt: HID Multitouch panels
type: tristate
depends on: CONFIG_USB_HID
defined in drivers/hid/Kconfig
found in Linux kernels: 2.6.38–2.6.39, 3.0–3.2, 3.3-rc+HEAD
modules built: hid-multitouch
Help text

About calibration. I have no knowledge since I dont have touch screen devices...but if there is something which should be enabled but isnt....I can improve the kernel or compile missing module.

Generic support for HID multitouch panels.

Say Y here if you have one of the following devices: - 3M PCT touch screens - ActionStar dual touch panels - Atmel panels - Cando dual touch panels - Chunghwa panels - CVTouch panels - Cypress TrueTouch panels - Elo TouchSystems IntelliTouch Plus panels - GeneralTouch 'Sensing Win7-TwoFinger' panels - GoodTouch panels - Hanvon dual touch panels - Ilitek dual touch panels - IrTouch Infrared USB panels - LG Display panels (Dell ST2220Tc) - Lumio CrystalTouch panels - MosArt dual-touch panels - PenMount dual touch panels - PixArt optical touch screen - Pixcir dual touch panels - Quanta panels - eGalax dual-touch panels, including the Joojoo and Wetab tablets - Stantum multitouch panels - Touch International Panels - Unitec Panels - XAT optical touch panels - Xiroku optical touch panels

Posted: Fri 09 Mar 2012, 14:15
by pemasu
About multitouch devices...it seems that there is change from 3.1 kernels to 3.2 kernels....since I have also 3.2.9 kernel dpup exprimo build and thread for it also...this applies more to that 3.2.9 kernel version dpup exprimo...but I post it here since I started the search in this thread:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... 35&page=67

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mu ... h_Displays

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=133851

Posted: Fri 09 Mar 2012, 14:26
by jemimah
pemasu wrote:What I have found so far....

CONFIG_HID_MULTITOUCH: HID Multitouch panels
General informations

The Linux kernel configuration item CONFIG_HID_MULTITOUCH:

prompt: HID Multitouch panels
type: tristate
depends on: CONFIG_USB_HID
defined in drivers/hid/Kconfig
found in Linux kernels: 2.6.38–2.6.39, 3.0–3.2, 3.3-rc+HEAD
modules built: hid-multitouch
Help text

About calibration. I have no knowledge since I dont have touch screen devices...but if there is something which should be enabled but isnt....I can improve the kernel or compile missing module.

Generic support for HID multitouch panels.

Say Y here if you have one of the following devices: - 3M PCT touch screens - ActionStar dual touch panels - Atmel panels - Cando dual touch panels - Chunghwa panels - CVTouch panels - Cypress TrueTouch panels - Elo TouchSystems IntelliTouch Plus panels - GeneralTouch 'Sensing Win7-TwoFinger' panels - GoodTouch panels - Hanvon dual touch panels - Ilitek dual touch panels - IrTouch Infrared USB panels - LG Display panels (Dell ST2220Tc) - Lumio CrystalTouch panels - MosArt dual-touch panels - PenMount dual touch panels - PixArt optical touch screen - Pixcir dual touch panels - Quanta panels - eGalax dual-touch panels, including the Joojoo and Wetab tablets - Stantum multitouch panels - Touch International Panels - Unitec Panels - XAT optical touch panels - Xiroku optical touch panels

You can try the xinput calibrator. I haven't gotten any feedback whether it works or not, but it seems the only thing available.

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Softwar ... calibrator

Posted: Fri 09 Mar 2012, 18:18
by pemasu
xinput calibrator: A generic touchscreen calibration program for X.Org
Version: 0.7.5
Website: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Softwar ... calibrator
Source: http://github.com/tias/xinput_calibrator
Bugs: http://github.com/tias/xinput_calibrator/issues
Xinput_calibrator is based on a simple calibrator that was proposed on the Xorg mailinglist. The first release(v0.2.0) improved upon it by reading axis valuators from Xinput, hence making it generic for all touchscreen drivers.
xinput_calibrator is created to fill the gap of touchscreen calibration software, featuring:
works for any standard Xorg touchscreen driver (uses XInput protocol)
mis-click detection (prevents bogus calibration)
dynamically recalibrates the evdev driver
outputs the calibration as xorg.conf.d snippet or HAL policy file
and more

another newbie

Posted: Fri 09 Mar 2012, 19:23
by turbo
Hello , have been using exprimo for 2days, started with the 5.3.2.9 iso, but then discovered the 5x13-6 smp version, so am now trying it. Not sure which version is best for my computer, any opinions appreciated. I will attempt to attach this 'report-video' info in case it would be of help to developers.
Nice distro, and works very well so far, printer was configured easily, and internet connects flawlessly.
Still poking around to see what more I might need, besides bigger fonts in Firefox! lol
*my first post ended up in the wrong place, despite my care at posting.

Posted: Fri 09 Mar 2012, 19:31
by pemasu
turbo. It seems you have nvidia graphics driver. Dpup Exprimo 5.X.13.6 does not have nouveau module for it so it uses nv driver.
Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.2.9.2 kernel has the nouveau module included, so...it will be loaded in it. I suppose both works for you.
The difference in these builds is that the different wireless drivers firmwares is more updated in 5.X.3.2.9.2 version so it should support larger group of wireless chips. Some Puppy apps are more recent in 5.X.3.2.9.2

But these both uses quite new kernel which is optimized for multicore comps.