(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

That's it! Thank you!

...BTW, original source is here --> http://gpedde.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2qdfvr

Just took a little googling to find it. BTW, to get an image from dA, right-click the "download" button and tell your browser to "open link in new tab" Much easier than messing with popup windows IMO.

EDIT: gee, those URL tags never appear on their own over here... wonder why...

EDIT2: d'oh! Thanks for the link, ally!

Just downloaded the original from Deviant Art,zipped it up and was uploading it as you posted.Glad you found it.

Nothin hard, just a little google work

Glad you posted what you had, or I wouldn't've found it at all.

...tried out Android-x86 and I have to say I'm rather a bit disappointed. I'm not sure whether it was my netbook's hardware, or Android itself, but I couldn't connect to the 'Net. From what little info Android would give me, it appears that something went wrong between our MiFi4620L (where the Internet comes in) and the netbook with IP address issuing, but I've no clue what or how to fix it.

Of course, Android with no Internet connection is a lot like a car with no wheels. Can't do much with it.

So out it goes.

More distrohopping.......

Nice and clean...

...but I really hope you like the color green with that distro!

Just for the fun to see if it worked.
I downloaded the iso and made
an iso frugal boot of Kiwi Linux

title kiwilinux frugal iso boot
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /kiwilinux.iso
kernel /kiwilinux/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/kiwilinux.iso splash --
initrd /kiwilinux/casper/initrd.lz

It is a version of Ubuntu that has many codex
already installed from scratch. It has Chromium
Browser and it could see streaming video
without any need to install Adobe Flash.

Video clips on youtube and on my NTFS HD worked too.
I could delete things without being root and did not need sudo.

But that maybe makes it vulnerable to exploits. I know too little.

Latest Ubuntu has changed how it boot so it fails to use that code.

But kiwi worked well. http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=07437

nooby:

Test this for kooliepup....>>> CAELinux 2011

I sent it to him....but there are problems.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80664

He can't install it.

I don't think he would mind me releasing this part of his email.

" Boots to live desktop after an incredible amount of seeking, and a
lot of the progs run.

Install fails at 45% on 3 machines, again after constant seeking
for many minutes.
Can't copy or mount the disc no matter what I try. "

So how about it mate.
You are the installation specialist.

This one should be right up your alley.

Regards....Chris.

Chris you understand such things better than what I do.

Very odd I edited this file but my text did not make it

Anyway I did dl but the 2008 version unfortunately that where
a Debian version and such doesn't boot on NTFS only on
Linux partitions.

so I give up on this one. But Sickgut has long experience of
booting Debian frugally his Pussylinux do boot frugally
so maybe one could make use of his way of doing it?

Unless kooiepup love to be full install.

Old text follows below

Like you say here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 117#650117

" CAELinux 2011 is only available in 64bit version,
this means that you will absolutelly need an X86_64 compatible CPU
to run this version.

Most recent Intel and AMD CPUS are 64 bit :
for example Intel Core2Duo or Core2Quad, Core i3, i5, i7
and XEON 64 bit or AMD Athlon 64, Athlon X2, Athlon FX, Phenom,
and Opteron.

Please note that most Intel CoreDuo (not Core2Duo),
Atom and Pentium 4 are NOT 64 bit compatible!
Please check your hardware compatibilty first!!
Using a 64 bit OS is necessary to use more than 2Gb RAM per application and thus allows for large "industrial scale" simulation capabilities.

If your CPU is not 64 bit, you can still use our previous release CAELinux 2008 which is available in both LiveDVD and VMWare virtual machine version: see this page for more information on CAELinux 2008. "

I have a 64bit computer Compaq Sr5622SC

google suggests

Processor
AMD Athlon X2 4450e
Figure 2: AMD Athlon X2 logo
Image of AMD logo

Operating speed: Up to 2.3 GHz
Number of cores: 2
Socket: AM2
Bus speed: 2000MT/s

Processor upgrade information
Socket type: AM2+
Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:

Phenom with Quad Core (Agena) technology (AM2+) up to 9600 (up to 95 watt TDP)
Athlon64 X2 with Dual Core technology up to 5600+ (up to 89 watt TDP)
Athlon64 less than 4000+
Sempron less than 3800+

I don't get much out of that. So much to think through.
My ADHD make a blur out of all the details to consider.

But the most important thing to take in is that most OS
are not made for frugal install. I am too lazy to try a DVD
or USB install for to help kooliopup.

I am not even sure if he do trust my willingness.
His and my trackrecord of exchanges feels
like he does not really trust me Which is
not what I do either. Those time that I manage
to boot anything is more pure luck than any real
know how.


distroWatch says this about it
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=cae

Sometimes such ubuntu versions can boot frugal but
some of them have change the boot procedure enough
to only boot on CD/DVD or USB.

I can maybe see if it download fast then maybe I give it a try.
But I am not optimistic at all. Out of ten Ubuntu varieties maybe
3or 4 have booted the way Kiwi did. Ubuntu 2012 did not boot.

The good thing with my cheat boot is that one don't need DVD or USB
and that one can install from HD partition to other HD partition.

I did that with LM11 in frugal to a full install in usb and it worked.

The link you have in that other post says it take 24 hours and the
speed where 43 kb / sec So I took home the 2008 32 bit instead
to see if that one boots on my netboot? Download 8 minutes so that is okay

I will only do a fast boot and not try to tweak any boot options just
look for what it says as error. I get back within 30 to 60 minutes
edit this post

I had a look at KiwiLinux and it was quite nice.

I didn't see anything it could do that Puppy couldn't. It is much bigger and a lot slower than Puppy though.

Puppy still wins in my opinion.

smokey01 wrote: I didn't see anything it could do that Puppy couldn't. It is much bigger and a lot slower than Puppy though.

Puppy still wins in my opinion.

Ya,...same here. I HAVE to use Debian on my main computer though. That's because my grandson says I have to (it has all the "neat games" he says). Otherwise,...I just go with a Puppy on my other computers. I just don't see the point in running a distro with so much stuff,.. that I don't usually use in the first place. Not to mention (as you said) most other distros are so slooow when compared to a Puppy.

I notice that the only Distro that runs Web browsers truly fast is: Puppy Linux. All the other Distros (I tested) on a PC with the same specs runs slow.

Edit: The only other distro I use is TinyCore, it's very easy to install and it's packages are smaller than the big distros' versions.

bark_bark_bark wrote:I notice that the only Distro that runs Web browsers ... .

I not sure is you are proposing something or not. But, as for some limited understanding that I have, this might help should you be using one/some other distros.

Puppy advances are due to its ability to use RAM as a part of its file-system; this is apparent for those of us who use Live media (and some frugal) as our primary system's operations. This is one of the main reasons why I continue to operate Live media.

Understanding this, have you wondered what would happen to the browser performance should you make the browser's profile use a RAM drive you use/create? I think this is easy and I also think that with the lazy-write approach that is use by most Linux, the profiles location could be "mirrored" to a real media device such that all browser location movements would be captured on a permanent basis should you need.

Hope this helps

nitehawk wrote:

smokey01 wrote: I didn't see anything it could do that Puppy couldn't. It is much bigger and a lot slower than Puppy though.

Puppy still wins in my opinion.

Ya,...same here. I HAVE to use Debian on my main computer though. That's because my grandson says I have to (it has all the "neat games" he says). Otherwise,...I just go with a Puppy on my other computers. I just don't see the point in running a distro with so much stuff,.. that I don't usually use in the first place. Not to mention (as you said) most other distros are so slooow when compared to a Puppy.

Yeah, true although the Slack-based distros such as Vector are fast enough for most of what I want to do.

I haven't found another distro yet which runs Wine (for my Windows programs) as well as Puppy does either. I'm thinking of trying OpenSUSE next to see if Wine runs any better on it but I know it has a reputation for being slow.

Colonel Panic wrote: Yeah, true although the Slack-based distros such as Vector are fast enough for most of what I want to do.

...oh,...I absolutely LOVE a Slack-based distro! I found that Salix runs really well on my old stuff,...except for one little tiny, but important problem.
I can't seem to figure out how to get it to do dialup. I went to their wiki site,..and it sounded pretty complicated to me (my eyes started blurring over, and my mind started shutting down just reading all the instructions). I finally said,..."what-the-heck"!!! I can get dialup to work in any Puppy right off the bat,..so why bother with Salix.

And my CD of VectorLinux 7 seems to have gotten damaged or corrupted in some way,...so I can't get it to install anymore. <alas!>

I feel so dense. Slax I have booted very many okay 4 or 5 or so

I have never ever booted Slack and don't trust it can be booted frugally
while Slax can.

What is the difference? Is it only the attitude of the Devs?
Porteus works good.

Actually,...I have been toying with the idea of trying OpenSuse again. I used it a couple of years or so ago (Xfce/Lxde) and it seemed to work pretty good.

I'm thinking that since my grandson wants Debian (and all it's games) when he comes to visit,...

I will get one of my spare hard drives (maybe a 20G or a 40G one). And just put Debian and all games on it. Then when he comes over,..I can easily switch hard drives in my main computer.

That way,...I can use my main 160G hard drive triple-booted with WXP,..Racy Puppy,...and what-ever-distro-I-want!!! That just might be VectorLinux SOHO,...or something like OpenSuse,...(Mageia 2 actually didn't seem to do all that well on my stuff).

nitehawk wrote:...oh,...I absolutely LOVE a Slack-based distro! I found that Salix runs really well on my old stuff,...except for one little tiny, but important problem.
I can't seem to figure out how to get it to do dialup. I went to their wiki site,..and it sounded pretty complicated to me (my eyes started blurring over, and my mind started shutting down just reading all the instructions). I finally said,..."what-the-heck"!!! I can get dialup to work in any Puppy right off the bat,..so why bother with Salix.

Yeah, fewer distros seem to support dialup these days. I think Mint still does but I'm not sure. I had to give up using Zenwalk 6 because I couldn't get online with it using dialup (I've got breadband now)

nitehawk wrote:And my CD of VectorLinux 7 seems to have gotten damaged or corrupted in some way,...so I can't get it to install anymore. <alas!>

Oh shame I've had that problem with Vector more than any other distro for some reason.

nitehawk wrote:Actually,...I have been toying with the idea of trying OpenSuse again. I used it a couple of years or so ago (Xfce/Lxde) and it seemed to work pretty good.

I'm thinking that since my grandson wants Debian (and all it's games) when he comes to visit,...

I will get one of my spare hard drives (maybe a 20G or a 40G one). And just put Debian and all games on it. Then when he comes over,..I can easily switch hard drives in my main computer.

That way,...I can use my main 160G hard drive triple-booted with WXP,..Racy Puppy,...and what-ever-distro-I-want!!! That just might be VectorLinux SOHO,...or something like OpenSuse,...(Mageia 2 actually didn't seem to do all that well on my stuff).

Sounds like a great idea that - if you've got somewhere safe and clean to put the drive when you've taken it out of the machine (or an anti-static bag away from magnets).

Mozillux What is that all about.
http://www.mozillux.org/mozillux-en.html

Mozillux is built upon a Debian/Ubuntu base. Each software is carefully tested and analysed before being integrated into the operating system.

Fast, Mozillux is finely tuned by an experts team. Each software is carefully set-up to integrate with precision the operating system.

Secure, Mozillux is completely impenetrable to virus and any kind of malwares. Your documents and emails are safe. Your whole internet activity is protected.

Everything is there, you don't need to buy anything more. Each software is a full version, ready to use immediately. There are no ad-softwares, nor limited-test-softwares.

You can use Mozillux-DVD for all your usual office needs. Edit documents, texts or spreadsheets, drawings... Surf the internet, connect to your social networks, share, join... Chat with your friends in direct, or by emails... Play, watch TV, listen radio or your favorite music... Access your files on distant computers or dedicated networks, and all of this at full speed and completely secured.

Wether you use Mozillux at work or at home, you are safe.

so it seems to be a "live" DVD that one use like Puppy then?

But can it save on that DVD or not. oops they answer further down?

Mozillux usb modules requires your computer have USB2 ports

So most likely you boot the DVD and then save changes to the USB?

Would be cool if any of you gave it a go and tell here if you like it.

The download files is a zip and the DL page is in french
and the chapta failed to be seen in my Firefox.

I finally took the plunge and downloaded the last two Frugalware DVDs (the last one is only 1.1 MB) and have now installed the whole thing. You have to install the packages manually from the last four DVDs as the installation process doesn't prompt you to insert said DVDs.

I don't want to put anyone off trying Frugal but it seems quite rough around the edges to me, probably because the team working on it is a lot smaller than the ones most popular distros have at their disposal (they admit this on their forum).

The default desktop environment is KDE, which comes with a full range of included software except KOffice (it has LibreOffice instead) and the one program it's worth getting KDE for IMO; Amarok. Apart from this, I couldn't get Gnome to work which isn't a problem for me since XFce, which I like, is an option. However, you have to shut it down using Ctrl-Alt-Delete because there's no menu or button to click on. Also, LibreOffice Writer doesn't have spellchecking enabled which for me is a nuisance.

Still, Frugal is fairly light on resources and may be worth trying for someone who wants a distro that needs some tinkering with; it's a sort of cross between Slackware and Arch. Most people though are probably better off with something like Mint (or maybe OpenSUSE, which I haven't yet tried).