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R-S-H wrote:
Tonight, maybe two or three hours to go, it seems I'll be able to finish main parts of my private LazY Puppy development. Everything seems to work fine, all known issues and/or bugs are solved and fixed. Also, I ain't got further ideas for new programs to write.

So, I can spend some time to work on the translations to English language - from time to time. Mainly I will use this version now without developing anything - except upcoming bug fixing. That's why I started this here - to build my own Paradise Puppy.

I have to contact now the owner of smokey01.com, where the LazY Puppy files are hosted, to get knowledge and information about how much space I can use for uploading new files (ISO, Applications etc.). When it comes to a point that all English translations are finished and LazY Puppy 3 would be ready to upload, I would like to upload some additional files and applications that would run out of the box - not SFS files, nothing to install.

But this would be a huge number of Mega Byte - somewhat around 5 GB. I use this all from a 16 GB USB flash drive.

Ok,

meanwhile, have fun with LazY Puppy (like I do!)

RSH

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Silly Question: Once the jdk sfs is loaded, where can I find the java.exe? Been runing around chasing my tail looking in the files trying to find it.

PS: Read the Mollath link. Wow! An eye opener in deed.

Send the responsible People of the Bavarian Justice, Police, Doctors of psychiatric Hospitals plus the ugly sucking Guys of the HVB to the Hague!!!
After this, pack 'em into a Space Shuttle and send 'em up to the Sun!!!
http://econoblog101.wordpress.com/2012/ ... -paranoid/

Hi.

To load the LP2_jdk1.6.0_45.sfs and then to search for the JAVA binary inside the running OS is not a good choice. Too many files and directories.

Do a left-click onto the LP2_jdk1.6.0_45.sfs (don't load before that) and search for the binary. It mounts the SFS so, you can see its content - left-click again to unmount the SFS.

You'll find one JAVA binary in /bin and also one JAVA binary in /jre/bin.

I don't know which one is the relevant for your purposes. Might be the one in /bin, but I'm not sure since I don't know anything about JAVA - except that it is needed for some programs.

Note: I'm now unreachable at least for a week or two. I got some hard work to do, so I need to stay away from programming and visiting the forum.

Thanks again.

Hello RSH et al!

Sorry I've been gone so long. After an initial flirtation with Lazypuppy I reverted to lupuplus and have been stagnating with it.

I've just downloaded 2.02 -5, but to avoid disappointment (or at least dull it), I'd like to ask if anyone can answer any of the following questions about it:

1. does it fully support NTFS (ie. read and write)?

2. does it fully support USB3.0 (ie. hot plugging devices)?

3. does it support large high speed SDXC cards

4. is there a way to install xfprot on it?

5. can deb packages be installed in it?

6. can it support Asian character display and input?

7. is there a way of saving, copying, moving files with Asian characters in the filename?

Hi otropogo, it's nice that U are still around.

1. does it fully support NTFS (ie. read and write)?
Yes

2. does it fully support USB3.0 (ie. hot plugging devices)?
No

3. does it support large high speed SDXC cards
No

4. is there a way to install xfprot on it?
Yes, but you must wait until Herr RSH makes SFS file for U.

5. can deb packages be installed in it?
No, I would suggest U try Squeeze puppy.

6. can it support Asian character display and input?
Yes

7. is there a way of saving, copying, moving files with Asian characters in the filename?
Yes



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Hi.

Thanks to the last saviour for clearing this up.

But, if I remember correctly, there is something like a guide to make the lucid ready for USB 3 on the forum - might be in the lucid 528 update thread (maybe)

I've had read this but could not really understand what I would have to do. It's always double time and work for me, because of the different languages and I'm still a Puppy Linux newbie.

RSH

R-S-H wrote:Hi.

Thanks to the last saviour for clearing this up.

But, if I remember correctly, there is something like a guide to make the lucid ready for USB 3 on the forum - might be in the lucid 528 update thread (maybe)

I've had read this but could not really understand what I would have to do. It's always double time and work for me, because of the different languages and I'm still a Puppy Linux newbie.

RSH

thanks RSH and The Last Saviour, will keep watching while continuing to use Lupuplus, Knoppix, and Windows.

I need lupuplus for xfprot and non USB3.0 SDXC (strangely, it supports SDXC on an internal slot, but not on the USB3.0 connection - but transfer speed is greatly reduced). If I need to change devices without rebooting, I'll have to use Windows or Knoppix.

I also need to use Windows to write or read DVD-RAM disks and DLA.

Very frustrating, but I can't give Windows up in any case because I need OCR, Quicken, some other apps, and full access to my printer functions.

Hi.

I have uploaded the new LP2_LazarusFPCSuite.sfs with right permissions. It should now load with sfs_load 1.9.x.

I have also uploaded the new LP2_Gambas-3.4.1.sfs, which has been compiled by 666philb by a request of der-schutzhund (LazY Puppy User, the teacher who has installed and is using LazY Puppy on 20 Computers at Realschule Lemgo (a public School in Germany)). Gambas 3.4.1 is especially compiled for Lucid, so it will work in LazY Puppy.

The SFS is converted to LazY Puppy SFS P.L.U.S. format and has already the LP2_DevX.sfs declared inside the SFS as the needed dependency. So, just download, create a RunScript and have fun with that.

Gambas 3.4.1

Hi.

I have uploaded some more new SFS files:

LP2_Aisleriot-2.30-Lucid.sfs - Game
LP2_Check_Network_IP-0.1-de.sfs
LP2_Games.sfs - the original Lucid Games in SFS
LP2_Ginkgo_CADx-2.12.0.4889_linux_x86.sfs
LP2_GNU-Paint-0.3.3-6_i386.sfs - simple Paint Program
LP2_LoveGames.sfs - Game(s)
LP2_PureBasic-5.11.sfs - Development
LP2_PureData_0.42.5-3_i386.sfs - Music
LP2_Screeny-0.7-full.sfs - needs gettext in LazY
LP2_TakeAShot-1.1.sfs - Screenshot Tool
LP2_VKeybd_0.1.18d-1.1_i386.sfs - virtual MIDI Keyboard
LP2_Worker-2.19.6-i686.sfs - File Manager

All to find at my LazY Puppy Repository at smokey01.com/RSH/

Even though I can not understand why people do waste time playing computer games (when there is so much more interesting stuff to do with computers and also without computers), I've uploaded some Games.

RSH

Hi.

For those of you who can handle German user interface or who might want to try to turn this into his personal English version or just for your interest:

I have build a full featured LazY Puppy from Three Headed Dog!

It can load Enlightenment e17 WM at boot up (by LazY Puppy boot option, menu.lst is in ISO), which has some themes installed.

JACK-Audio, XorgHigh und GetText is installed!

I do create these LazY Puppy versions using my Puppy-Transformer, which is the successor of my VSP-LazY-Puppy-Bulder-Script. The Puppy-Transformer uses the main SFS from my LazY Puppy to create a new LazY Puppy; so, there will be some menu entries without programs to download. Mostly portable Apps for wine and Linux standalone binaries - I have uploaded some as well.

In the ISO is a file named lped (LazY Puppy External Directories). Do copy this to the boot partition (not boot directory).



Enlightenment e17

LazY-THD and Enlightenment e17


After booting into desktop, just wait until e17 is refreshed (boot sound is playing then).

Enlightenment e17 themes installed:

AL-Grayish-Bodhi.edj
A-Special-Macpup3.edj
MP5282-black-5.edj
MP-Egypt-1.edj
MPElectric-1.edj
MP-Faces.edj
MP-Metal-1.edj
MP-Moonlight-3.edj
MP-New-Light-1.edj
MP-Vision-2.edj

Size of Enlightenment e17 SFS (WM_e17_LP3.sfs): 55MB



Openbox and Variomenü-Desktops

Openbox and VarioMenü are a genius combination and now defacto declared to LazY Puppy Standard (some greetings to SFR and der-schutzhund at this point)!

LazY-THD Desktop AudioStudio


LazY-THD Desktop GraphicsStudio


LazY-THD Desktop Development


LazY-THD Desktop Favorites


LazY-THD Desktop Installing


LazY-THD Desktop Internet


LazY-THD Desktop Multimedia


LazY-THD Desktop VideoEditing


LazY-THD Desktop Science


For Desktops: Guides, Desktop, Settings, and Utilities (Tools) the user has to put icons onto the desktop (which then is also the VarioMenu-Group) by himself.

There is some more information in the German forum, Google translate might help you for that - if needed

Download:

LazY-THD-100-03-Xorg.iso
WM_e17_LP3.sfs (put this SFS into boot directory of LazY-THD)
PortableApplications-2.tar.gz (unpack into boot partition, not boot directory!)

End Download:

Have fun (maybe) with LazY-THD 1.0.0,

RSH

Wow! I liike iit!
Will have to buy another flash drive. Will have to put colored electrical tap on them so I know which is which. Lol

Hello people.

I decided to post a request in the English, Spanish and French forum to sign petition in an urgent case of German Justice Crime - the Mollath Affair. I thought this was meaningful and useful, and I couldn't see any reason why I should not be allowed to do this

I posted this following text, identical in all three forums:

Hi.

Here is a link (English language) where you can read about the Mollath Affair. Please read this information and sign this petition to free Gustl Mollath.

It is an Open Petition and already signed from several persons of different countries in the world.

Info: http://econoblog101.wordpress.com/2012/ ... -paranoid/

Sign here: https://www.openpetition.de/petition/on ... tl-mollath

By now 44,296 people have signed. We need 100,000 and there are just 59 days to go.

I don't know if your vote will count, but since there are many people from different countries have signed, do it also.

PLEASE!

Thank you very much.

This obviously represents a forum abuse, and is also treated as spam, which could be just removed.

After about 3 hours, I could see Flash logging in and my posts removing by the Hands of Ghosts from the English and the Spanish forum (the French he probably overlooked)!

As the screenshot shows, the forum's own search function finds Gustl Mollath now only in the German and the French forum.


I must say: this is also censorship!!!

You can not deal that way with forum members that have made significant and valuable work for Puppy Linux - and I have done this without any doubt!

I can not recognize a forum abuse or any form of spam and I can not see to have used some not existing special rights when doing these three posts, that would justify the removing of my posts done.

However: the moderators have the power to delete the things where they think it would be necessary and obviously they do it. I can't do anything against such action!.

Of course, my request to you to be active in this case remains.

This removing of my posts reminds me of the deletion of some posts I've made some time ago in the German forum as puppytutorial which was a user account where everyone could use and log in. They deleted my posts!!!

Finally also the most willing guy someday gets filled up and wants to go his own way - it looks like I've reached this point. Puppy Linux isn't that smart to take such things again and again and again - even LazY Puppy isn't that smart!

Everything that I've uploaded to the server of smokey01.com will stay there until smokey01 has a need to remove it.

In the matter of Gustl Mollath I will try to be active in another form of activity.

This terrible situation should not persist and further action in this matter may not remain unobserved, so, please sign the petition

RSH

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LazY Puppy Development is now closed!

This thread is now closed!

Sorry Guys, but I can't take it anymore!

LazY Puppy Development may be closed, but this thread is not [yet] closed.

Does anyone else have any comment about the use or abuse of this thread?

Lieber Herr RSH;
Sorry to know that you had quit this project.
As you only have problem with this forum, not this project. Why not find another forum to continue LaZy?
It's not the unseen hand but the jealousy hand. Remember I rank you as #1 developer here. He can't really tolerate that statement. So if this posting is deleted it means my analysis is correct.

I had already posted that petition into my network. Expect to get xx,xxx signs if that link is in English. So watch out.

Best regards.

the last saviour wrote:Lieber Herr RSH;
Sorry to know that you had quit this project.
As you only have problem with this forum, not this project. Why not find another forum to continue LaZy?

Hi.

I had to quit this project for several reasons. This deleting-my-posts-stuff was just the butt-kick to make me able to do this. I sometimes do have problems to quit things - even when I'm knowing, it's time to do so.

Don't want to be missunderstood: I'm still using it and I'm still glad to have it. Meanwhile I did remove my Installation of Kubuntu and if there wouldn't be a need to do a scan disk from time to time on my FAT32 drives, Windows would follow!

So, I quit, because:

- LazY Puppy (Lucid) is somehow outdated (Kernel 2.6.33.2)
- LazY Puppy can't handle USB 3
- I do need three or four times longer developing DE/EN stuff
- I'm much faster when doing only DE stuff (so, I can do lot of more work in less time)
- I can't even work that fast in only DE like new ideas and concepts do come to my mind (maybe from outer space - I don't know)

So, there are a lot of reasons to change my focus. It's not LazY Puppy I'm really interested in - it is its concept of using SFS files instead of installing programs.

LazY Puppy did come already with the SFS concept in version 528-4. Then it has been 10 SFS Suites containing several programs categorized in the SFS Suites like Audio, Graphics, Video etc.pp. Which was something that sunburnt often says (sfs files and roxapps don't fill up the save file - or similar) This LazY Puppy concept has been pretty much refined by the invention of LazY Puppy's SFS P.L.U.S. and its programs.

This, the concept of LazY Puppy, SFS P.L.U.S. and its useful programs etc.pp. is what I'm interested in. There might come the day where I do have a need to use/buy newer hardware like USB 3 flash drives which would result in a need to have a newer LazY Puppy.

And I don't want to do all this stuff over and over again.

So, developing (without publishing anything) only in DE makes me able to rework some of my programs and to work also on new ideas and programs.

I will do a post later of a really new and great concept (with an already existing (DE) program) about the so called application-starter like PupMenu and PupApps. This really never has been seen before and I doubt it has been thought before. I have mentioned this already in the German forum.

So, meanwhile I did create the VSP-LazY-Puppy Builder Scipt, which has turned now into my LazY Puppy Transformer. The LazY Puppy Transformer makes me able to create a LazY Puppy SFS Module (not the StArtLPx2_202.sfs) from always my newest version either from within the running LazY Puppy or from within the running Puppy to build a new LazY Puppy from. Then I'm just installing the Openbox windowmanager, switching the wm to openbox, loading the LazY Puppy SFS Module, executing a script, which guides me through some steps need to be done manually and executes the LazY Remaster Suite after finishng the script.

I'm able now to build a new full featured LazY Puppy in about 20 Minutes - DE only.

SInce there is no further need to have a DE LazY Puppy anymore -because of the meanwhile available DE language packages- I do have to change/translate all this stuff into English language. So, I can do future LazY Puppy work just for an EN iso - which would also save time for me to use it for some other real life needs.

So far I can say: the chances are really good that I might com up with a new EN-only LazY Puppy based on newer 3.x.x Kernels. I did some of this already for the DE users like a LazY Precise based on 5.6 and a LazY LxPup based on 13.01.

Created with the VSP-LazY-Puppy Builder (it wasn't turned into the LazY Puppy Transformer then).

the last saviour wrote:Remember I rank you as #1 developer here.

Thank you very much!

Yes, I do know: I did made some work, that is somehow really great stuff. But, only: it depends on LazY Puppy with its old kernel and is not or only in parts of older versions available for the users of other puppies.

So, to fill your saying, #1 developer here, with something like "life" and to give to it something like a "long term" I did also need to quit this here old version. Please, do believe me: it was really successful to do so. If you would see the LazY Puppy Transformer in Action, you surely would be convinced.

But, hey, everyone out there who is using LazY Puppy: please, keep using it.

I don't know much about real LazY Puppy users and how much are out there and I even don't want to open a new thread like "Who am I developing for", but I'm convinced of the LazY Puppy concept, SFS P.L.U.S. and some more programs of LazY Puppy. To make this available for new puppy versions or to build new LazY Puppy versions the easiest way to handle is my focus now - and all of this is now coming together with my new and really amazing concept for the so-called application-starters like PupApps and PupMenu.

They might be just blown away!

About this new concept and its resulting program I'll have to do my next post. I just have to decide now where, in which forum I have to do this, because it is neither an announcement nor an request (maybe partly an request, which depends on what I do want to have/get/reach/achieve?).

Need some minutes to think about it and will post a link here later. Please do read this and you will know...

...since you already know...

RSH

Edit:

Ok, here is the link.

Lieber Herr RSH;

I really appreciate your answer.
Thank you very much.

I don't understand why many people try to release their own Puppy! If it's for their personal use that's should be fine. But if they really want Puppy to be on the market I would suggest someone who has the same concept of Puppy (same desktop and file manager), but different ability of programming knowledge to form a team. No mattter how excellent you are at software and OS I don't think anyone can solve every computer problem. And even it doesn't success, you will waste you time much less than you work alone.

the last saviour wrote: I don't understand why many people try to release their own Puppy! If it's for their personal use that's should be fine.

because we can. get off your high horse.. it's called sharing.. akita is way older than lazy, i share it when i update it.. simple. if you don't like people making their own versions of puppy, don't use them and go and help make the official puppy better, if you can. kao jai mai

I don't understand why many people try to release their own Puppy! If it's for their personal use that's should be fine.

I did not intend to end up developing and publishing LazY Puppy - just wanted to try to build my own puppy for my own purposes. Inspired by the 2 sfs files offered with Muppy 08.3F and impressed by 10wt3ch's Studio 3.3.

After a while I found it a good idea to offer it for the people (it was stored at mediafire then and has had only the ten sfs suites). Then smoky01 did enter the scene offering an account at his server for my use and to store the LazY Puppy over there. The rest did follow step by step, is already known and would not have been possible without all the help from the members of the forum.

Now I'm back to my basic intention, to build my own puppy - now for real.

Which doesn't exclude developing programs for the community generally.

But if they really want Puppy to be on the market I would suggest someone who has the same concept of Puppy (same desktop and file manager), but different ability of programming knowledge to form a team.

Even though I'm working alone on LazY Puppy, I've had already a great team: the community and the single German member of the forum who has made all the testings for my programs developed in 2012. He did not left me, because he was able to see, what will come up in the end. He is using now LazY Puppy as main OS installed on 25 computers (Windows removed) on a public school in Germany.

And I'm sure: at least, in the end, he was surprised - like I am each and every day when booting up my LazY Puppy.

No mattter how excellent you are at software and OS I don't think anyone can solve every computer problem.

Yes, I agree.

This is also an argument to change my focus. I don't want to be responsible for problems and issues that are results of remastering a puppy and/or adding/removing stuff to the OS etc.pp. My responsibility in the future should only be related to the programs developed and published.

So, I'm trying to put all the LazY Puppy Concept Applications together to work nicely from SFS - so called: LazY Puppy by SFS Module. The user than is free to choose which OS to use and must go to the original thread, if something is not working in the OS which has nothing to do with my applications.

And even it doesn't success, you will waste you time much less than you work alone.

Believe me: not a single second was wasted!

RSH

Last Saviour

Many bad aliens live in the high building (~50 fl.), some decoration around the top. Near Time Square?

Did this come from an office memo in the Mc Carthy Witchhunt Trials of the 50's?