(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Ha.

"Idiot, you are." Yoda says to me.

Works fine as long as you choose the right screen res. Picked 800x600 last time and it cut the monitor rather than giving me a desktop. This time I chose 1024x768 and it's there.

Would be more comfortable if I had the NeoMagic driver present and working, but then again it gave me no end of trouble in Igu's Guy Pup. Could be Guy Pup didn't have the driver working perfectly, could be something's up with this old laptop... dunno.

What I do know is that I have a black screen with a white cursor. I move the cursor over to a specific area on the left side of the screen, and the "taskbar" (dock?) pops out absolutely immediately. Be nice if I knew how to change the wallpaper, but I'm not sure I want to push my luck that far

Congrats, synth, you've made a fairly modern OS that works on a very, very old laptop (this thing is at least 15...) and with very useable performance (from what I can tell so far) at that. Well done, sir, well done.

...that said it's 3am here (well, 5min till...) and I really don't feel like staying conscious any longer today so it's off to bed for me.

turbo pup is an excelent creation.

Where can I find the devx for turbo pup v1.0?

Sincerely,
Srinivas

Wallpaper changer doesn't work. Locks up hard instead (mouse moves but nothing else works). Not sure what's up with that...

snayak wrote:turbo pup is an excelent creation.

Where can I find the devx for turbo pup v1.0?

Sincerely,
Srinivas

Use the 4.2 devx with Turbopup as it's a 4.2 remaster:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... vx_420.sfs

@starhawk
- from memory, synth deliberately went 'back to black' and jettisoned the wallpaper and other trinkets to streamline performance. Check out sc0ttman's "Akita" thread, where he's pushed the TurboPup base to gel with Wary5 pets (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67811). Beta4 has just been released, and it's working very nicely for me on a Lenovo T60. sc0ttman might give you some pointers on wallpaper issues if you want to stick to synth's original.


EDIT: AAAAaargh! You were just THERE on the thread earlier today - I have told you absolutely nuttin' you didn't already know. Mucho

Heh-heh. I know puplite (what Akita will soon replace) -- somewhere I think I've still got the CD-RW of PupLite 4.0 that I used a very long time ago

Somehow I managed to miss the whole "I'm using TurboPup as a base!" thing... I'll send him a PM in a little bit.

Still looking for that driver.

Just curious, does anyone know when synth logged in last? I'd send him a pm but if he hasn't been around in a year, I'm not going to waste my time or Murga's bandwidth.

Still looking for that driver.

driver expert, tempestuous

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/privms ... post&u=217

Aitch

Waaay ahead o' ya. He rather sharply pointed me back here.

starhawk wrote:Wallpaper changer doesn't work. Locks up hard instead (mouse moves but nothing else works). Not sure what's up with that...

Stick this into /root/.jwmrc
You should stick it somewhere under

Thanks, man! That's very useful.

Hmmm... slight problem, even if I put it under /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc, it refuses to be persistent on reboot. Thought I'd found the culprit (duplicate line) which I removed, rebooted, and the problem is still there.

Of note, I did modify your code a little bit, but I don't see my change affecting anything... here's what it reads...

Starhawk,
Dell Latitude cp's work well with most puppys. I have a cpi that I run 3.x and 4.3.x on and an older cp that I use for an old laptops compatibility platform. It has a p-1 with mmx, 166 mhz, 128m ram, of which half is now gone most of the time, for the socket being bad. MMX is late p-1, standard architecture in p-2s. It's the break-over for graphic puppies. With a non-mmx p-1 cpu you spend a lot of time watching screen redraws. With 512m swap my cp runs puppies through early 5.1.1 in frugal installs (I haven't tried it with newest 5.2 or 3.x kernels), running extra sfs, leaving its cd-rw/dvd free (it writes from a 1g save-file on the hd). It is noticeably slow with only 64m ram now, but it has less trouble installing puppies than newer SATA buss laptops with power-conserving non-jolt-start cd drives, which take so long to spin up modern puppies have quit looking for files by the time they are ready to send data.

The NeoMagic video was one of the first LCD/TFT systems. The X-Window system runs just about all neo-magics with a generic "LCD" driver. Nothing special is needed, the refresh is 60, mostly for redraw, since all that's done is light transistor arrays for pixel colors. Puppy's Xs, even the 2.x series, which have trouble with some CRTs, always find mine, 800x600x16 on the cp, 1080x768x16 on the cpi, with the bigger screen. Some puppies suggest 24 planes depth, and you have to change to 16. None of the old LCD/TFT screens can handle 24: Too many additional transistors needed for too little noticeable result, so all had only 16 planes. Since the system just feeds resolution-number of transistor-cluster pixels, as pixel-number resolutions go up screen-image size goes up. The correct resolution for whatever your unit' s screen will fill the screen. Bigger won't work and smaller will give a smaller image, using the resolution number of pixels, leaving the unused extra black, for a border around the image.

Thanks, dude, but (no offense) yer a little late to that party. Figured that out awhile back...

meanwhile, anyone know how to change "mut" back to "pmount" without needing pmount to work...? Thought that enabling mut would enable the system to see my flash drive... instead it just broke pmount

EDIT: screw it, just gonna reinstall... I guess I don't care...

Reinstalled. Also, this probably makes a difference... "under" != "in between" when referring to a pair of XML tags!

PEBCAK.

EDIT: persistent on reboot now. derp=very yes!

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When trying to boot (for the first time) a frugal install of Turbopup extreme I’m getting the following error:

“searching for puppy files in computer disk drives....pup_420.sfs not found. Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console.
/bin/sh: can’t access tty: job control turned off

I seem to recall some people having success putting a wait state in...but I don't know where...it seems possible a slow start HDD may be the problem, not finding the files within a specific time-window....
It used to happen with some CD players too...IIRC

Aitch

Thanks Aitch. I had a closer look at the boot parameters I put in the menu.lst and realised I made a typo in the spelling of the folder name in the psubdir=<foldername> parameter.

Have edited my post.

Anyone else having issues with not finding pup_420.sfs may be interested in one cause found by gnuxo here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 9&start=98

His problem was caused by the puppy 420 core being unable to handle the ext4 partition he used on his HDD. This problem would therefor also be possible in Turbopup, Arcade 10 and Puplite and early Akita aswell possibly.

Here's a wallpaper for turbopup if anyone wants it...

I stuck TP on an old rig for testing to see if I can make it useful.

Lot of stuff missing here... I guess stashbox is gone? A lot of software for TP was there... hopefully it can be recovered and posted elsewhere?

Synth: Great work. Maybe you could update on where things are at with your development. I'm sure everyone understands if you needed a break.

Just a thought, maybe Synth, aitch, scott, ttuuxxx and the rest could gather the pieces into one place, like the missing opera, missing flash 10, and all the other packages that were built for a pretty decent puplet. It would be cool to have it brought together again.

Eathray