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Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 08:29
by 01micko
Thanks Dejan but it seems to be independant of the theme. It might be a dependency issue with gtk being an old puppy version.

Cheers

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 08:33
by ttuuxxx
01micko wrote:Thanks Dejan but it seems to be independant of the theme. It might be a dependency issue with gtk being an old puppy version.

Cheers
Damn I wish I could remember what I did to get that red screen.
hey open a terminal and type
ldd /usr/bin/jwm
and read if your not meeting any of the deps.
good luck
ttuuxxx

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 09:16
by 01micko
ttuuxxx wrote:
01micko wrote:Thanks Dejan but it seems to be independant of the theme. It might be a dependency issue with gtk being an old puppy version.

Cheers
Damn I wish I could remember what I did to get that red screen.
hey open a terminal and type
ldd /usr/bin/jwm
and read if your not meeting any of the deps.
good luck
ttuuxxx
Ok, the error I got is

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/usr/bin/jwm: /usr/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/bin/jwm)
The lib is there but must be too old :?

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 09:36
by ttuuxxx
01micko wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
01micko wrote:Thanks Dejan but it seems to be independant of the theme. It might be a dependency issue with gtk being an old puppy version.

Cheers
Damn I wish I could remember what I did to get that red screen.
hey open a terminal and type
ldd /usr/bin/jwm
and read if your not meeting any of the deps.
good luck
ttuuxxx
Ok, the error I got is

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/usr/bin/jwm: /usr/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/bin/jwm)
The lib is there but must be too old :?
here try these ones, they are the ones I compiled for 4.2
ttuuxxx

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 10:51
by 01micko
:D No lib errors! Yippee!.... hang on... still got the ugly red,, :( :cry: :cry: :(

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 11:06
by Patriot
Hmmm ...
01micko wrote::D No lib errors! Yippee!.... hang on... still got the ugly red,, :( :cry: :cry: :(
Mick, open up your jwm theme files, yes files jwmrc/theme/tray/etc (in geany I presume) and set the document type to xml (turn on the 'colors' bling!). This helps you find where it breaks ...

Rgds

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 11:08
by WhoDo
01micko wrote::D No lib errors! Yippee!.... hang on... still got the ugly red,, :( :cry: :cry: :(
Try increasing your pup_save.2fs size. It looks like you've got plenty of space but looks can be deceiving. The red could be a warning that JWM or whatever is low on resources.

Puppy allocates 128kb blocks. It doesn't take too many of those with little or nothing in them to have your system report plenty of free space when you are in fact almost out.

Hope that helps

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 11:41
by ttuuxxx
01micko wrote::D No lib errors! Yippee!.... hang on... still got the ugly red,, :( :cry: :cry: :(
Hey Mick
a few months back I compiled this really tiny command line Word processor, its no Abiword, but hey it might just be what your pc can handle :)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31598
ttuuxxx

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 11:52
by 01micko
Patriot wrote:Hmmm ...

Mick, open up your jwm theme files, yes files jwmrc/theme/tray/etc (in geany I presume) and set the document type to xml (turn on the 'colors' bling!). This helps you find where it breaks ...

Rgds
No Geany sorry, it´s a pretty barebones puplet this one...
WhoDo wrote:Try increasing your pup_save.2fs size. It looks like you've got plenty of space but looks can be deceiving. The red could be a warning that JWM or whatever is low on resources.
No can do WhoDo... full install on an old small drive... I´m trying to keep it authentic...
ttuuxxx wrote:Hey Mick
a few months back I compiled this really tiny command line Word processor, its no Abiword, but hey it might just be what your pc can handle
Saw that one today as a matter of fact :wink:

Thanks guys... maybe I´ĺl just make a red theme! :lol: 8)

Cheers

Mick

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 12:26
by 01micko
Guys!

Don´t waste too much of your time on my old box! I´ve got it going pretty good, even some eyecandy! :lol: Fastest and most versatile browser for it believe it or not is Elinks! It does more than dillo and netsurf.

Cheers

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 12:38
by ttuuxxx
01micko wrote:Guys!

Don´t waste too much of your time on my old box! I´ve got it going pretty good, even some eyecandy! :lol: Fastest and most versatile browser for it believe it or not is Elinks! It does more than dillo and netsurf.

Cheers
if you have tcl/tk installed you can alo use HV3
http://tkhtml.tcl.tk/hv3-nightly-08_0203.pet , you don't have tcl/tk installed, its in the repo, just use the older version that is really small.
ttuuxxx

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 14:56
by 01micko
Ok, made new `tricolour´ theme... (yuk!) ... but at least it´s kinda coordinated! (I said `kinda´)

Image

Don´t ya love it?!?!?

Hehe :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mick

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 15:18
by DC
Many thanks
to HairyWill, Patriot, Joewing and anybody else who whats a smile. :D

Resizing from the top of a window and full screen iplayer brings me back to jwm.
Important part of day to day use vs nice to have.

DC

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 15:30
by ttuuxxx
01micko wrote:Ok, made new `tricolour´ theme... (yuk!) ... but at least it´s kinda coordinated! (I said `kinda´)

Image

Don´t ya love it?!?!?

Hehe :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mick
Mick try installing a Jwm from 2 series, then just copy the the newer version bin ONLY overtop of the 2 series one. I bet that will work for you.
ttuuxxx

Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 23:57
by BarryK
Interesting that many of us are moving away from 3-D effects and gradients, going for flat-everything. Me to in Woof. It kind of suits the minimalism of Puppy.

Posted: Tue 24 Mar 2009, 06:36
by 01micko
To all helping with my JWM issues in fat_free 2.16.

I don´t wanna hijack this thread! Post here.

That is the thread I started about my 486 and it´s successes and failures. :wink:

Cheers

Mick :)

Posted: Tue 24 Mar 2009, 15:00
by panzerpuppy

Posted: Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:23
by panzerpuppy

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JWM build 45x:
* Added support for pager labels.
Does this mean we finally have numbers for the virtual desktops in the pager? ;)

Posted: Wed 25 Mar 2009, 04:04
by joewing
Pager labels are available now, just add labeled="true" to your Pager tag
and a label should appear with the desktop names. You can also use
Font to specify a font and Text to specify a text color (in the PagerStyle
section).

I've started playing around more with transparency, and in revision 455
I've changed the way it works so that the active window gets an opacity
set in the Active subsection of WindowStyle and the Opacity in the
Inactive subsection has three parts: <min>:<max>:<delta> so that
inactive windows get an opacity assigned based on stacking. This gives
a pretty neat effect I think. Unfortunately it broke the key binding and
window menu for transparency, so I took those out for now (group setting
is still there). I'm curious how people use transparency. Any suggestions?

I'm also curious about the "shade hack". I took that out and it seems to
work fine. Though I'm all too familiar with problems going from system
to system, especially with composite stuff, so maybe it just happens to
work for me for some reason.

Posted: Wed 25 Mar 2009, 10:35
by ecomoney
Im glad the jwm project is continuing, I had heard a rumour it was unmaintained. I think the improvements are fantastic, and am looking forward to the transparent window titles and rounded borders. There is really no reason for puppy linux to look ugly just because it is small.

Im especially happy because the gxine fullscreen bug seems to be fixed by this update (where you must maximise gxine before switching to a full screen view).

I can only find two small faults with the latest version.

1. When trying to move maximised windows by draggin from the window border, they always pop back up maximised again. Surely they should "restore" and end up where the user places them?

2. Using the alt-tab cycles the open applications in no particular order. It would be nice to be able to alt-tab between the last two used applications.

How much extra space/resource would a simple alt-tab task list use?

Many thanks for your work Joe