tahrpup 6.0, 6.0.2 & 6.0.5 CE

[charlie6]

Hi 666philb ,
(maybe are you already aware of this ..?)

Short explained:
when running mtpaint, pressing F7 does not display the settings window in the screens above-left corner;
pressing F12 does not popup the «dock» side panel (get it with Menu/View/Display side panel).

This might be a bug specific to Tahrpup (or Trusty??) as the reported behaviour was already present in version 5.8.3 (don570 PM me he could reproduce it on 5.8.3); and does not happen on other puppies.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=915

Read also this post and following ones in mtpaints thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=250

This already happens with mtpaints version 3.44.88.

Thanks for your time !
Best regards, Charlie

[666philb]

Hi 666philb ,
(maybe are you already aware of this ..?)

Short explained:
when running mtpaint, pressing F7 does not display the settings window in the screens above-left corner;
pressing F12 does not popup the «dock» side panel (get it with Menu/View/Display side panel).

This might be a bug specific to Tahrpup (or Trusty??) as the reported behaviour was already present in version 5.8.3 (don570 PM me he could reproduce it on 5.8.3); and does not happen on other puppies.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=915

Read also this post and following ones in mtpaints thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=250

This already happens with mtpaints version 3.44.88.

Thanks for your time !
Best regards, Charlie

hi charlie

if JWM is the problem (the JWM version is a bit hacky in tahrpup) it's not something i can really put through updates as it's too big of a change. the newer one breaks puppys jwm themes and the older one has other bugs and looks too different. so i reckon we'll just have to live with it or install our own.


cheers

[charlie6]

Hi 666philb,
thanks for your answer

if JWM is the problem...

yep! if using icewm, F7 and F12 work as expected on mtpaint.
Using icewm could then be a workaround.

That's OK for me
Cheers, Charlie

[MochiMoppel]

if JWM is the problem (the JWM version is a bit hacky in tahrpup) it's not something i can really put through updates as it's too big of a change.

F12 problem: This is a tahrpup issue. The pre-customized file /root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal contains the key binding <Key key="F12">root:3</Key>. Very unusual. Remove it and F12 in mtPaint will work as expected

F7 problem: The Settings Toolbar opens here behind the main window, so you might miss it. It's there. Could be a JWM issue.

[don570]

F7 problem: The Settings Toolbar opens here behind the main window, so you might miss it. It's there. Could be a JWM issue.

To make the settings window pop in front of main document window
the solution is to upgrade to the most recent version of JWM

http://www.joewing.net/projects/jwm/sna ... 132.tar.xz

simple compile

./configure --prefix=/usr
make
make install

restart window manager

The frame color will be blue for the forward window and black for
the other windows.
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[666philb]

The frame color will be blue for the forward window and black for
the other windows.

it's annoying that it breaks puppys themes .... tahrs default stark-blueish theme

Code: Select all

<JWM>

<WindowStyle>
    <Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font>
    <Width>3</Width>
    <Height>22</Height>     
    <Active>
       <Text>black</Text>
       <Title>#F1F8FE</Title>
       <Outline>black</Outline>
    </Active>
    <Inactive>
       <Text>black</Text>
       <Title>#FCFEFF</Title>
       <Outline>black</Outline>
    </Inactive>
</WindowStyle> 

<TaskListStyle>
<Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font>
<ActiveForeground>black</ActiveForeground>
<ActiveBackground>#A1D4F8</ActiveBackground>
<Background>#FFFFFF</Background>
</TaskListStyle>

	<!-- TRAY PROPERTIES -->

	<TrayStyle>
		<Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font>
		<Foreground>black</Foreground>
		<Background>#FFFFFF</Background>
		<Opacity>0.75</Opacity>
	</TrayStyle>

	<!-- PAGER PROPERTIES -->

	<PagerStyle>
		<Outline>black</Outline>
		<Foreground>#DCDAD5</Foreground>
		<Background>#9898A8</Background>
		<ActiveForeground>#F899CA</ActiveForeground>
		<ActiveBackground>#DA4976</ActiveBackground>
	</PagerStyle>

	<PopupStyle>
		<Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font>
		<Outline>black</Outline>
		<Foreground>black</Foreground>
		<Background>yellow</Background>
	</PopupStyle>

	<MenuStyle>
		<Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font>
		<Foreground>black</Foreground>
		<Background>#FFFFFF</Background>
		<ActiveForeground>black</ActiveForeground>
		<ActiveBackground>#C1E0FA</ActiveBackground>
	</MenuStyle>

</JWM>

now needs to be something like this

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<JWM>

<WindowStyle>
    <Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font>
    <Width>3</Width>
    <Height>22</Height>
    <Corner>1</Corner>     
    <Foreground>black</Foreground
    <Background>#FCFEFF</Background>
    <Active>
       <Foreground>black</Foreground>
       <Background>#F1F8FE</Background>
       <Outline>black</Outline>
    </Active>
</WindowStyle> 

<TaskListStyle>
<Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font>
        <Foreground>#000000</Foreground>
        <Background>#FFFFFF</Background>
        <Active>
            <Foreground>#000000</Foreground>
            <Background>#A1D4F8</Background>
        </Active>
</TaskListStyle>

	<!-- TRAY PROPERTIES -->

	<TrayStyle>
		<Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font>
		<Foreground>black</Foreground>
		<Background>#FFFFFF</Background>
	</TrayStyle>

	<!-- PAGER PROPERTIES -->

	<PagerStyle>
        <Outline>#000000</Outline>
        <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
        <Foreground>#DCDAD5</Foreground>
        <Background>#9898A8</Background>
        <Active>
            <Foreground>#F899CA</Foreground>
            <Background>#DA4976</Background>
        </Active>
	</PagerStyle>

	<PopupStyle>
		<Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font>
		<Outline>black</Outline>
		<Foreground>black</Foreground>
		<Background>yellow</Background>
	</PopupStyle>

	<MenuStyle>
		<Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font>
        <Foreground>#000000</Foreground>
        <Background>#FFFFFF</Background>
        <Active>
            <Foreground>#000000</Foreground>
            <Background>#C1E0FA</Background>
        </Active>
        <Opacity>0.85</Opacity>
	</MenuStyle>

</JWM>

basically all themes will need changing

[bigpup]

666philb,

Here is something I found about Pale Moon and Flash Player.

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=8141

[666philb]

666philb,

Here is something I found about Pale Moon and Flash Player.

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=8141

hi bigpup,

with the latest palemoon the flash is out of date problem has disappeared for me... . i did need to re-activate flash on a few sites that had auto blocked it, by clicking on the flash/warning icon on the left hand side of the address bar, and choosing allow always

[bigpup]

The latest version of Pale Moon fixed Flash Player for me, also.

Seems the version that comes installed in the Tahrpup 6.0.2.iso will have the update Flash Player problem, until you update Pale Moon.

Time for a new iso

[charlie6]

Hi,

F7 problem: The Settings Toolbar opens here behind the main window, so you might miss it. It's there. Could be a JWM issue.

To make the settings window pop in front of main document window
the solution is to upgrade to the most recent version of JWM

http://www.joewing.net/projects/jwm/snapshots

simple compile

./configure --prefix=/usr
make
make install

restart window manager

The frame color will be blue for the forward window and black for
the other windows.
_____________________________________________

___________________

latest JWM jwm-1137.tar.xz seems to fix the F7 issue only;
F12: MochiMoppel workaround allows mtpaint dock to display is F12 pressed; but Menu no longer displays when mtpaint not used.
+ window border keeps sticked to blue ...

[MochiMoppel]

F12: MochiMoppel workaround allows mtpaint dock to display is F12 pressed; but Menu no longer displays when mtpaint not used.

I didn't consider this to be a "workaround". The wm should never grab keys that are normally used on a per-application level. This includes plain function keys and Ctrl- and Shift- combinations. Traditionally window managers make use of Alt- key combinations and JWM uses already Alt-F1 as a shoutcut for the main menu. Why would tahrpup need 2 keyboard shortcuts? I've never seen this use of F12 by a wm anywhere and I consider this to be a mis-configuration.

[666philb]

The latest version of Pale Moon fixed Flash Player for me, also.

Seems the version that comes installed in the Tahrpup 6.0.2.iso will have the update Flash Player problem, until you update Pale Moon.

Time for a new iso

hi bigpup ... the plan is for a new iso in octoberish with the latest 3.14 kernel .... i should have a bit more time then

[Mayou]

Openshot is ok.
Kodi is nice, but does not open any of my videos.
No audio with Avidemux QT from Quickpet ! pls could you check that .

[666philb]

Openshot is ok.
Kodi is nice, but does not open any of my videos.
No audio with Avidemux QT from Quickpet ! pls could you check that .

hi Mayou

avidemux has sound for me... you might need to look in it's preferences to set it up.

kodi plays videos for me

[cimarron]

Sorry, posted in wrong thread.

[rcrsn51]

With all due respect to everyone who worked on the ffmpeg issue, there is a 4 MB PET posted here.

It is the ffmpeg from Precise with some extra libs, and should give you the 100% compatibility that avconv does not.

[Dpup]

Want to view and convert many short Video Clips from GoPro Hero4 Silver wearable action camera and several other similar cameras taken in 1080p for viewing on Android phones, tablets, e-readers, PC's laptops, Am using Puppy Tahr 6.0.2 updated to 6.0.3. FFConvert crashes consistently, appears incomplete for MP4 transcoding, Avidemux from quick pet works, but better solution is a batch transcode capability. Tried to get qwinff to work, fails. Then tried Wine 1.6.2 stable from PPM, and Wine 1.7.23 from tahr pet repository, both worked batch transcoding with portable windows Winff 1.4.0 using Android compatible preset with easily adjustable max bitrate, frame rate, frame size, aspect ratio etc. Tested the puppy Tahr 6.0.3 set in several PC desktops, netbooks, laptops, all plays fine on Android and other devices even my old XDA Android dual boot converted Nook Color Jelly Bean and Nook HD KitKat e-readers used by kids. VLC in Puppy 6.0.3 also plays fine and even easily creates great still photos of interesting parts of videos. Hope this helps others looking for a easy to install video batch transcode capability. Am aware the Winff application has been brought up many times over the years for use on Puppy Linux, but did not see anyone post the simple Wine solution.

[666philb]

FFConvert crashes consistently,

hi Dpup ... in ffconvert try changing the 'codec' on the 'detail' tab.

if that fails try rcrsn51s ffmpeg.pet a few posts above see if ffconvert works then

[rcrsn51]

if that fails try rcrsn51s ffmpeg.pet a few posts above see if ffconvert works then

From looking at the ffconvert code, it appears to use avconv in preference to ffmpeg. So you might need to rename /usr/bin/avconv.

[Dpup]

@666phib, rcrsn51

Thanks for the quick response, I downloaded and installed the ffmpeg as suggested by rcrsn51, renamed the existing avconv to avconv_hold, Then ran FFConvert. Different presets now working, found several that would work with Android devices. Not all presets work, but now have other choices to test. More recent XDA Developers Android KitKat works with more video formats, while older Ice Cream Sandwich works with few.

Thanks again !!!