What is it with you people, Fred, Moat, now you jumping on me because of my differing interpretation/definition of "Better". Oh well. Meh!s243a wrote:I thought "Bionic" would imply an Ubuntu derivative but I supposes Ubuntu was based on debian. Anway, if there is a repo that you don't want in your package manager why not just remove the repo and if want to run the system as a different user than why not just do it? Your free to customize fredx181's releases as you like. You don't need to force your preferences on anyone else. However, you could release your own variant and see if others buy into it.
BionicDog (updated: 2018-06-04)
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I was posting leads for faster remastering and the benefits of lz4 a couple of years ago (http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 498#928498 and http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 453#888453). Fred took interest and adopted the concepts into DD, seemed to fall on deaf ears of others (Puppy). Since then Pup developers seem to have further faded away, so don't hold your breath.dancytron wrote:There are some other advances, some that ideally Puppy will copy.
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The remaster process is different. It supports lz4, making it lightning fast.
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For real??rufwoof wrote:When things are proclaimed as safe...
... but shouldn't be portrayed as being something they are not.
Whatever. Nice try. Nice little "lol" emoticon - almost makes you appear innocent.
You're a persistent, sneaky little troll, rufwoof - called out yet again - this time putting words in our (my!
) mouths in an attempt to salvage your appearance of "innocence" at oh-so-slyly disparaging Fred's work once more. Jeebus... must be some bruise on that Ego.Whatever.
Just knock the childish trolling $hit off. We've tired of it.
Bob
I was talking about you and your gross obsession/paranoia around security. But of course, you attempt to interpret the meaning in order to further disparage Fred's work. In fact, your statement thus becomes a knock against your own.rufwoof wrote:Fringe hobbyist toys can be fun to mess around with, but shouldn't be portrayed as being something they are not.Moat wrote:As a fringe, narrowly-focused hobbyist experiment
Bob
rufwoof
as great academic can you applay
latest lz4 - 1.8.2 compression to
deb.dog and xenialdog?
as great academic can you applay
latest lz4 - 1.8.2 compression to
deb.dog and xenialdog?
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Looks like lz4 compression is so quick because its compression ratio is so piss poor compared to the others.
https://catchchallenger.first-world.inf ... LZ4_vs_LZO
https://catchchallenger.first-world.inf ... LZ4_vs_LZO
Relatively poor, compared to much slower alternatives. Ball park 50% reduction compared to 66% reduction type figures, but magnitudes of order faster (even more so for decompression). When decompression is the more predominant usage and throughput speeds are the priority then its a excellent choice. Multiple cores doubling up the amount of read data really quickly ... can result in throughputs approaching ram speeds.nic007 wrote:Looks like lz4 compression is so quick because its compression ratio is so piss poor compared to the others.
https://catchchallenger.first-world.inf ... LZ4_vs_LZO
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I was, until I retired in my late 30's, involved in security/pen, global Blue-Chips. Whilst my knowledge is old-school nowadays I do still keep in contact with those still active in the field. I post hereabouts about the risks and (potentially very significant) consequences, not just against a single derivative, but for any others that I periodically try. Moat interprets those in his own inflammatory way.backi wrote:Hi Moat !
Why so strict on roofwoof???
Not so bad his Contributions .
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I was writing compression modules in assembler way back in the 1980's, mostly that field peaked decades ago and indeed gzip is one if not the best all-round choices, hence its popularity. For the likes of specialist tasks such as remastering and subsequent multiple decompression's lzo/lz4 are reasonable, such that when I was looking at a faster remaster process lzop - being more commonly available at that time was up-there, lz4 looked interesting, but wasn't generally available in derivatives at that time. For tightest compression indeed xz is often the best, but that tighter compression comes with longer times.nic007 wrote:If one is looking at a balance between compression rate and time, gzip is probably still the best choice. I use xz, not worried about the time. I hardly ever compress big files.
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Already have a "variant". I wouldn't post about it here however as its not a Puppy - doesn't use woof-CE, doesn't support multi-session DVD saves ...etc. Based on OpenBSD and simply boots from CD, uses combined actual ram+encrypted/sliced swap as 'memory' and rsync's to/from that from/to a save (on demand) folder.s243a wrote:you could release your own variant
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Hi Backi!backi wrote:Why so strict on roofwoof???
Not so bad his Contributions .
rufwoof's positive contributions in no way excuse his trolling on the Puppy forum, which is an infringement of the forum rules. He has been banned for doing this before - on Fred's thread(s), IIRC, no less.
If you (or any other forum member/moderator) read rufwoof's reply to nic007's inquiry to zagreb a page or so back (unless rufwoof has edited it since then), you will see that he carefully manipulated the wording as to give the false illusion that he was answering Nic, when in fact it does not address the original question/inquiry, whatsoever - and simply becomes yet another thinly-veiled criticism of Fred's project (as does his post to s243a directly above this one, if you really look at it). That is trolling.
And now he is describing me as "inflammatory", and he's being the suddenly active "Mr. Nice Guy" in this thread, talking about compression algorithms... more thinly-veiled attempts to appear the poor, innocent one being picked on.
Very sly, very creepy. An intelligent person, using that gift with malicious intent. Quite a shame, really.
Bob
Hi Moat !
There are bigger Problems the World is facing today .
No offense man ...Just cool down .....life is to short for fussing and fighting .
" We can work it out "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyclqo_AV2M
Friendly Regards from "New Absurdistan "---(formerly known as Germany !)
There are bigger Problems the World is facing today .
No offense man ...Just cool down .....life is to short for fussing and fighting .
" We can work it out "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyclqo_AV2M
Friendly Regards from "New Absurdistan "---(formerly known as Germany !)
Yes, true.backi wrote:There are bigger Problems the World is facing today
Well... you asked for explanation, and Bob gave his opinion (thanks Bob, I agree with you for the most, btw)No offense man ...Just cool down .....life is to short for fussing and fighting
Don't think there are more terrible things going to happen in the world if we express our opinion or feelings here.
Fred
If you re-read what I originally posted it was a simple statement as to differences in zagreb999's and my definition of 'best'. For clarity I was not banned for trolling, but for actions taken due to raised blood pressure due to trolls (in a rage I widened out my signature to unreasonable width, but by the time I'd calmed I'd already been blocked from logging back in to undo that). Your own prior posts (and Fred's "btw" opting to agree with them) are a prime example of Trolling - as defined by creating discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people by posting inflammatory remarks or insults.Moat wrote:Hi Backi!backi wrote:Why so strict on roofwoof???
Not so bad his Contributions .
rufwoof's positive contributions in no way excuse his trolling on the Puppy forum, which is an infringement of the forum rules. He has been banned for doing this before - on Fred's thread(s), IIRC, no less.
If you (or any other forum member/moderator) read rufwoof's reply to nic007's inquiry to zagreb a page or so back (unless rufwoof has edited it since then), you will see that he carefully manipulated the wording as to give the false illusion that he was answering Nic, when in fact it does not address the original question/inquiry, whatsoever - and simply becomes yet another thinly-veiled criticism of Fred's project (as does his post to s243a directly above this one, if you really look at it). That is trolling.
And now he is describing me as "inflammatory", and he's being the suddenly active "Mr. Nice Guy" in this thread, talking about compression algorithms... more thinly-veiled attempts to appear the poor, innocent one being picked on.
Very sly, very creepy. An intelligent person, using that gift with malicious intent. Quite a shame, really.
Bob
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I installed my newest rt kernel into BionicDog manually. It's quite a palaver. In case I replicated the modules directory too many times I wonder if
Fred could outline the steps he would recommend, or maybe add code to the kernel updater script!
Fred could outline the steps he would recommend, or maybe add code to the kernel updater script!
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