My report on Quirky 6.0

[drblock2]

@Sage
Thanks for the recommendation of alternatives to Skype. Reluctant as I am to support the MS empire in any way, I do use Skype to make free video calls to other Skype users on MS’s dime.

As I have been amazingly unsuccessful in convincing my friends to abandon the Devil’s operating systems for Puppy (even assuring them that I don’t do "doze Windoze no more" and they are on their own for advice does not seem to work), I doubt that I could have more success on this issue.

As for security, there were 59,443,398 people using Skype at the moment last time I looked and sometimes there is safety in crowds.

[Billtoo]

I installed cheese from the Ubuntu repo in PPM but is fails to run
giving this error:
# cheese
cheese: error while loading shared libraries: libwayland-egl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#
I also installed guvcview 1.7.1 from the Ubuntu repo in PPM and it works fine.

[Sage]

amazingly unsuccessful

You are not alone! I now refuse to advise/fix/look at any 'dozey machines.
And still they keep pouring their dosh into the Macro$haft coffers.

PS. Not sure that you actually need two Skype systems to connect? Maybe one of our resident experts can advise whether and how to connect PSIP to Skype?

[tronkel]

Quirky Tahr memory usage - not much

The attached screen shot shows memory usage of only 55MB out of the 3.5G shown in HTOP. There are 8 GIGs of RAM installed in this PC

Any chance of compiling a PAE kernel version for Quirky Tahr?

[Sage]

drblock2:

Got lucky. Had a hard copy with this URL;
http://www.smokey01.com/help/psip/psip-help.html
Enjoy!

This:http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cr ... 04224.html this is why not Skype.

[L18L]

EDIT
Sorry, code does not work (bug because change from code to name has not been made yet )

EDIT
Code does work now

see
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=558 please.
compiled in puppy precise 78k
compiled in quirky tar 55k, tested in quirky and precise

first compilation 11.5 sec
next compilations 1.9 sec That's fun. Thank you Barry

[slenkar]

EDIT
Sorry, code does not work (bug because change from code to name has not been made yet )

EDIT
Code does work now

see
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=558 please.
compiled in puppy precise 78k
compiled in quirky tar 55k, tested in quirky and precise

first compilation 11.5 sec
next compilations 1.9 sec That's fun. Thank you Barry

Do you mean the next compilation was done on quirky and the first compilation was done on precise?

I have noticed that my compiling is faster on quirky but I dont know about 10x faster

[L18L]

Do you mean the next compilation was done on quirky and the first compilation was done on precise?

No.
First and next in quirky
First does cache something thus next ones become faster.
It is another version of bacon in this Quirky tahr.
But the best is the smaller executable.


EDIT
To answer your question in the next post,
No I did not because I did not care about this.
But here it is in precise:

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# time bacon -x -d /tmp welcome1stboot.bac
Converting 'welcome1stboot.bac'... done.
Executing xgettext... done.
Compiling 'welcome1stboot.bac'... done.
Program 'welcome1stboot' ready.

real	0m5.187s
user	0m2.670s
sys	0m2.390s
# time bacon -x -d /tmp welcome1stboot.bac
Converting 'welcome1stboot.bac'... done.
Executing xgettext... done.
Compiling 'welcome1stboot.bac'... done.
Program 'welcome1stboot' ready.

real	0m2.782s
user	0m2.570s
sys	0m0.123s
# 

These things might better be discussed in
off-topic section Programming
BaCon thread. No?

[slenkar]

oh the new bacon must be keeping .lib files instead of compiling them every time

have you noticed any speed differences in compiling between quirky and precise? (first compile of course)

[timothyli]

I then symlinked some files to /usr/lib from Seamonkey's folder that are needed by Google Chrome.
...
I also found it necessary to symlink /lib/libudev.so.1.3.0 as /lib/libudev.so.0

I gave up on Quirky 6 as my main OS some time ago because I could not get Google-Chrome to run. These are the instructions I have been looking for. Thanks roadkill13!

By the way I did not install google-chrome-fixator pet. I just added the --user-data-dir switch to the last line of the google-chrome script. It seems to work fine.

update:

I found out I didn't need to do the symlink thing. I just added /usr/lib/seamonkey to the /etc/ld.so.conf file. Also, google-chrome runs fine as root without the --user-data-dir switch. I still needed to copy /lib/libudev.so.1 to /lib/libudev.so.0.

[BarryK]

After a bit of searching I found how... NOT obvious.[/b]

In the location bar, type:
about:config
and press enter. Bypass the warning.

In the 'Search' box at the top of the page enter:
network.protocol-handler.external.mailto

If you get a result, double-click it to change it true.

If you don't, right-click the pane and select new > boolean.

Give it the name "network.protocol-handler.external.mailto" (without quotes) and set the value to true.

It should ask for the default email handler, but if it does not or you wish to change it later...
Open:
Edit > Preferences > Helper Applications > Search > mailto
There is a drop down menu to select the email client.

Bill

Yeah, not exactly intuitive is it!

[BarryK]

Before you have run "rfkill unblock", what is the output from running this (where $INTERFACE needs to be replaced with your interrface, wlan0 or whatever):

# rfkill list $INTERFACE

rfkill list wlan gives:

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0: hp-wifi: wlan
	Soft blocked: yes
	Hard blocked: no
2: phy0: wlan
	Soft blocked: no
	Hard blocked: no

Without actually having hands-on at your computer, I don't really know what else to suggest.

You should be able to follow a logical procedure to determine why the code that I supplied did not work, whereas what you did before did work.

[BarryK]

2. Quirky-tahr has a gtk issue that makes both the fcitx and SCIM Chinese input platform unable to run.

3. Because Quirky-tahr and Quirky 6.x are very similar, I have resolved the above problem with the following quick fix:
a. replaced all the gdk and gtk system files in Quirky-tahr by those from Quirky 6.1.4
b. this was automated by creating a special gtk patch pet called quirky-tahr-6.0.1-zh-patch.pet. By installing this pet, all the gdk and gtk system files in Quirky-tahr will be replaced by those files from Quirky 6.1.4
.

Quirky T2 (6.1.4) uses GTK 2.20.1, whereas Quirky Tahr uses GTK 2.24.x.
If you put the 2.20.1 files into Quirky Tahr, some applications will report missing symbols and won't run.

[BarryK]

@roadkill13

Acer Aspire 3680 laptop running Quirky Tahr 6.03 with Google Chrome browser.

For the record can you describe in detail how you managed to get Google Chrome running in Tahr?

Have you tried Chromium?

It is in the Ubuntu repository. I just noticed it there, using the Quirky Package Manager, haven't tried it though.

[BarryK]

Billtoo wrote:

I tried to download the new seamonkey s ... nluug ftp

I had the same experience trying to download a devx package for Quirky Tahr at nluug.

Hmmm, I wonder if the new SM 2.24 that I have compiled, has that problem? When you install it, let us know.

[L18L]

Barry
look at http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 4&start=15 please

[BarryK]

I installed cheese from the Ubuntu repo in PPM but is fails to run
giving this error:
# cheese
cheese: error while loading shared libraries: libwayland-egl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#
I also installed guvcview 1.7.1 from the Ubuntu repo in PPM and it works fine.

The dependency you need is: libegl1-mesa-drivers

Which you can install with the PPM, but make sure that you also install all dependencies.

I just did a quick check in the PPM, and that package 'libegl1-mesa-drivers' is shown as a dependency.

That would mean you did not use the PPM properly?

After clicking on the 'cheese' package, you then click the "Examine dependencies" to get a list of all deps, then you install.

[BarryK]

One bit of advice about using the PPM/QPM.

Ubuntu Trusty Tahr is in alpha status, and the repository changes frequently, making the local package database out-of-date.

Therefore, I recommend click the Configure button in the PPM and update the database -- no need to choose the "updates" repository, as there isn't one yet.

It requires a restart of the PPM afterward.

[BarryK]

EDIT
Sorry, code does not work (bug because change from code to name has not been made yet )

EDIT
Code does work now

see
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=558 please.
compiled in puppy precise 78k
compiled in quirky tar 55k, tested in quirky and precise

first compilation 11.5 sec
next compilations 1.9 sec That's fun. Thank you Barry

Yes, and strip it, it goes down to about 38K.

[Billtoo]

The dependency you need is: libegl1-mesa-drivers

Which you can install with the PPM, but make sure that you also install all dependencies.

I just did a quick check in the PPM, and that package 'libegl1-mesa-drivers' is shown as a dependency.

That would mean you did not use the PPM properly?

After clicking on the 'cheese' package, you then click the "Examine dependencies" to get a list of all deps, then you install.

That one is installed but cheese still doesn't work so it must be something else causing the problem.