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Posted: Fri 07 Jul 2017, 19:33
by belham2
mistfire wrote:@belham2 I figured what is your problem. The main file X-Slacko Slim contains some default drivers. If you want to have a multiple screen setup, or you need to support more hardware. Use the FDRV file that I provided (It can support plenty of printers, scanners, and other hardwares due to its size). I updated the FDRV file which I merge the contents of ZDRV of Carolina Vanguard. You can try it now

FDRV download link:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2FRk ... lNXVlE1VjQ
@mistfire, I know it was a driver problem, that is what the testing of the zdrv file from Carolina was for. The trick was to find "which" drivers from the Carolina zdrv are needed for a mainstream radeon r600 motherboard with mainstream AM2+
chip. This is something X-Slacko-Slim should support out of the box, with no effort from users. Anyhow, Carolina's zdrv is only 33MB and I only need a few MBs of it. Your fdrv is 71MB! Thus, I'll pass on the fdrv in your link, .....I am trying to stay in spirit and soul to the original mission of keeping X-Slacko S.L.I.M. I'll eventually find it, it is radeon-related and plus a few other dependencies. I'll find which they are using the smaller Carolina zdrv file of 33MB.

Video drivers

Posted: Fri 07 Jul 2017, 20:16
by Volhout
hi belham2, mistfire,

I mentioned before R47 (and now also 48) do not boot on a i5 DELL laptop. They get stuck in starting X video. I tried with R48 and the zdrv provided, but even with that combination I could not make R48 boot up on this laptop. I confirmed it did load the zdrv.

I tried booting without X video and configure through Xorgwizard
It gave me 3 options, tried all 3 and no luck (VESA / framebuffer / KMS)

Same as with R45.

Since I did not have any other release except R37, tried that one, an it worked out of the box. Too bad my R45-savefile did not match with R37, and I would have to start all over again.

I really think in all the kernel swapping, or leaning, things got broken. A 5 year old i5 is normally supported in kernels since 3.0.

I am not sure if you are motivated to take such a task on you, but if I can help, I will. But I can understand if you are hesitant to commit.

Regards,

Volhout

Posted: Fri 07 Jul 2017, 20:17
by backi
Hi belham !
Do you know about Zdrv_Cutter ? :
Remove unneeded modules and firmware - Zdrv_Cutter

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51552

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 931b0eeb01

Posted: Sat 08 Jul 2017, 11:50
by mistfire
Some clarifications @Volhout and @belham2

FDRV file size is over 70Mb because I collected different firmware drivers on this forum. It acts as a driver pack and its optional. Im considering that ZDRV driver from carolina vanguard and I will attempt to make it small enough to fit in main SFS without less increase in filesize

I still keep the spirit of SLIM because I want a small puppy but still out-of-the box. I still figuring out how to make it smaller.

I understand and consider your opinion.

By the way. New iteration of X-Slacko Slim was in progress. Take note I will use an LTS kernel.

Posted: Sat 08 Jul 2017, 17:03
by belham2
@volhout, have maybe you ever tried swapping xorg's in from different pups to see if they will help boot better (whichever pup you want) on your hardware? Just a thought---Peebee got me interested in that when I ran into some problems (though mine were a bit different) with the LxPups. He threw an older xorg in there, and I was taken aback at how suddenly everything worked correctly and my slightly older systems no longer had startup and/or screen resolution/monitor recognition problems.

@backi, thank you, my friend, I did not know of that thread by Technosaurus! Will definitely give it a go and report back!

@mistifre---LTS kernel? Now that sounds good :wink:

Posted: Sat 08 Jul 2017, 17:20
by mistfire
@belham2 yes; it is on future releases. Just like the current release. It uses 4.9.x kernel which is an LTS kernel

Posted: Sat 08 Jul 2017, 21:26
by mistfire
New X-Slacko Slim iteration released

Changes:
* Some bugfix on power management
* ZDRV file is included (8Mb) for more out-of-the box hardware support. But still you can run puppy without this file.

Download: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2FRk ... HlQZUNiNHc
MD5 Checksum: 1799f6c47aa48f62c2ff73a1081d3a46

Posted: Tue 11 Jul 2017, 09:07
by mistfire
New X-Slacko Slim iteration released

Changes:
* Improved PPM
* Some bugfixes and tweaks

Download: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2FRk ... EZ5Z3ZkTm8
MD5 Checksum: f3991039e0ac6e6efa4a6332bc168178

Posted: Sat 22 Jul 2017, 12:31
by mistfire
New X-Slacko Slim iteration released

Changes:

* Linux 4.12.x kernel
* Some bugfixes

Download: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2FRk ... VNsQm9heVE

MD5 Checksum: 7ebd6c7e94170712d37d554998c5f0c0

(Slim) must be clever !

Posted: Mon 24 Jul 2017, 15:57
by Pelo
"I still keep the spirit of SLIM because I want a small puppy but still out-of-the box. I still figuring out how to make it smaller."

bravo :) as long as your Puppy keeps different, it's a real choice (chance) for Puppy users.
Rich stay rich (no need to think, just to pay). Poor (Slim) must be clever ! 'Malin' in French

Posted: Thu 03 Aug 2017, 08:30
by jss83
Really like the clean look but include the Ralink MT7601 Driver in the next update, if you could please.

Posted: Fri 04 Aug 2017, 09:32
by mistfire
@js83 you can download and install the driver here http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/no ... -3_all.deb

Posted: Sun 06 Aug 2017, 05:15
by jss83
I'll see if this one works and report back. Thanks :)

Update/: It didn't work. :?

Posted: Thu 10 Aug 2017, 12:40
by mistfire
Well in that case, you can use this FDRV https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2FRkt ... =drive_web

Just place it beside the X-Slacko Slim SFS file and boot it.

Posted: Sun 13 Aug 2017, 01:19
by mistfire
New X-Slacko Slim iteration released

Changes:
* Even more small screen friendly (working well at 640x480 resolution)
* Broken quicksetup is fixed
* Improved Barry's Simple Network Setup. It has now ability to rescan network interfaces and rescan wifi networks
* Eee mode. Automatically optimize and enable some features if the computer is Asus EeePC

Download link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2FRk ... 2NQbHR1SEU

MD5 Checksum: a35071bac872a386a4a859a88bb85970

Addiotional drivers (optional): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2FRk ... lNXVlE1VjQ

Posted: Sun 13 Aug 2017, 06:48
by Sage
Nice work, misty, thanks. Small, fast, Slacko, CD-R, what more could anyone wish for...

Posted: Sun 13 Aug 2017, 09:59
by mistfire
Thanks @Sage I will keep it as small as possible

I keep a version with parole in my toolcase

Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017, 11:45
by Pelo
I keep a version with parole in my toolcase. Playing to-day.. Parole is for Xfce.. Better than VLC, Gnome-mplayer ? No, but that changes the menu, the so classical menu
Something different, from time to time. To day, spanish de america del sur.
Just use my Puppy, no removal, no add , as it is.. as a passenger on Sunday relaxing time.
X-Slacko Slim 4.2r ??? (unique, stable, and flexible)

Posted: Tue 22 Aug 2017, 15:21
by mistfire
Hello I'm currently playing with tiny core packages. I hope that it will reduce the size of X-Slacko Slim. As of now I'm successfully created a smaller initrd using xz compression and some tiny core packages which is 1.7Mb compared to current initrd which is 2.8Mb but the user friendliness was still remain.

Also tiny core version of mplayer works. its files size was 10Mb compared to 12Mb current size. I hope gstreamer will become smaller as well.

Don't let Dogs be slimmer than our puppies :)

Posted: Tue 22 Aug 2017, 23:41
by Pelo
Do as you like, Mistfire.. you will be able to go one step backwards if you did the wrong way. Don't let Dogs be slimmer than our puppies :)
Some devs get their Puppy Slimmer by providing tiny browser (elinks) or no browser.. That is not valuable..
XZ compression is better for downloading, but worse for opening.. Not really important.. some seconds to start are nothing when you spend hours and hours playing your Puppy..