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Hi ttuuxxx, I didn´t notice before the firmware files from "bcm43xx-firmware.pet" (http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups ... 2-to-2.14/) are not present in Puppy 214x4, many Broadcom cards (includes mine) need these files to work.

Please include these in next release, the Broadcom-firmware pet is just 28KB.

Thank you ttuuxxx.

I have a small request, ttuuxxx could you please create a html file in /usr/share/doc with the changes made in Puppy 214xn. There are some informational html files in this directory for Puppy 2.14R (release-2.14.htm and release-2.14r.html).

We should create a new incremental one for each new release that you launch, release-2.14rxx.htm (or something like that).

I´ll send a base .html file in short....

EDIT: Uploaded Changelog file, ttuuxxx please take a look on it

Good evening, all!
Fix for my problem with HotPup desktop icon (dis-)order :
Delete what is marked in red below, from line 54 of these files

• /etc/HotPup/add_icons_for_device1
  /etc/HotPup/add_icons_for_device3

(The other files of the same type, with different numbers don't contain the "offending code".)

54 MNTPNTS="`grep -F "/dev/$ADEV" $FSTAB | grep -F -v '#' | tr '\t' ' ' | tr -s ' '| sort | cut -d' ' -f2`"

This fixes my discontinuous icon ordering. Seems like the strange ordering would strike blindly to certain devices (not really, but it depends on $ADEV and $ASD, which in turn depend grep:ing of /sys/block etc. etc. in /etc/HotPup/HotPup.sh)

Hope this info helps, please, try it out.

cheers/
MHHP

MHHT:
Congratulations on fixing this.
I tried your mods and all icons now appear in order (apart from the one that includes the 214 puppy but I can understand and certainly it's most probably a better way to sort it.)
You really have helped put to bed a lot of these little niggles for which many thanks.
Dave

HotPup desktop icons:

I boot 214Xn frugally off of hda6 (hda4 extended, hda7 swap) and here's how it shows on my desktop, hda6 is sorted correctly but, evidently, indicated as "home".

@daveturrey
Is there any difference (in part. ordering) when having the frugals on hdb?

cheers/
MHHP

Hello, ttuuxxx!

I really like Jesse's scrollbars-mut, but, can you make the pup-head position flexible (see screenshot)?

cheers/
MHHP

MinHundHettePerro:
Well I have 214X frugal on hdb3 and swap on hda2 but the order is slightly different to yours.

hda1, hda3, hdb1, hdb2, hdb5, hdb6.....hdb10, hdb11, home, cdrom...

Certainly usable and a great improvement to what it was. In fact I think I prefer it this way.
Thanks
Dave

sounds like we got a keeper, I'll work on the graphics tomorrow, kind of tired today, restless sleep last night.
ttuuxxx

Great news (for me anyway)
I've always assumed my WPA2 encrypted router (Thompson Speedtouch 585v6) would not connect because the kernel was too old and lacked modules. However in an idle moment when it was switched on I booted up 214X4, tapped in my settings & wow it worked. So tried pup 2.14, which needed a new network wizard & gtkdialog3 to run it. Then 2.16 which needed just the net wizard & finally 2.13 which would not work whatever I installed. It was on this pup that I did all my wireless testing for this kernel therefore leading me up the garden path regarding kernel, modules, wirless tools, wpa_supplicant & all the rest.

So well done ttuuxxx for helping to solve this mystery & of course dougal for his endless work on net wizards.

you welcome OlddogNewtricks I did add, about 10 newer,& gtkdialog3 and I used the I updated the network manager using 4 series parts, If you notice now at the top it shows your ip and net address, It didn't before, that was a "coming soon", lol I was counting on that it would do some good So I guess it did, lol
ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx wrote:

sounds like we got a keeper,

Well it certainly is working for me.
Just a couple of things I've noticed which are details but...

1. MHHP asked about the sort order of the icons. His and mine seemed different. Mine had "home" after the other partitions. Then I added two more partitions and home kept its position and the new two partition icons followed it. So not very logical. This was the case even after a reboot.
See screenshot below. hdb12 and hdb13 have been added after I installed the mut-scroll-pet and made the file mods as per MHHT's posts above.

2. I did say way back that although I can now see partitions greater than hdb9 I still get an error message on boot up saying that partitions 9 and above can't be mounted.
I had a look in /etc/Hotpup/ and only see 8 "add_device_to_fstab " files. Is this the reason? I thought I might be able to copy and paste to make some others but using TkDiff to compare them shows several differences that confused me so I have left well alone for others more knowledgable to have a look.

I have also attached my modified pmount file and /dev folder

/dev has been modified by adding nodes up to and including 16 for all hdX up to hdg and all sdX up to sdf.

/usr/sbin/pmount has the mods around line 370 and 505 so that pmount shows a complete list of all partitions and the sort order is ascending not descending. I have included partitions up to 16 for both hdX and sdX.


I have NOT included the changes to line 54 of /etc/Hotpup/add_icons_for_device1 and /etc/Hotpup/add_icons_for_device3 which MHHT identified above to fix the icon sort order.

I have NOT included the small fix to the last line of /sbin/probepart to fix the sorting on Pmount.

Both these last two changes need to be made.

Think that's it.
Thanks for your patience.
Hope you get a good night's sleep.

Cheers
Dave

wow dave thats nuts, I've never seen so many drive icons on the desktop like that, but it actually looks real nice
anyways calling it a early night
ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx wrote:

wow dave thats nuts, I've never seen so many drive icons on the desktop

Well this is my test PC and I run a load of distros to learn as well as to "support" a few folk who I have persuaded to use one or other of these.

In fact it's worse than you think because even just on hdb3 I have 8 frugal installs of Puppy.

A few days ago I had:
Windows XP Pro
Windows Seven
Ubuntu 9.04
Debian Lenny
Fedora 10
Arch
Crunchbang
SliTaz cooking
SliTaz 2
Vector Linux
Tiny Core
Sugar
and of course Puppy.

Sleep well. If you can't perhaps start counting Distros.
Dave

G'day,
"The bandwidth for the month of June 2009 has been exceeded.

My apologies to all the users.

We will be back in July 2009"

Anyone else hosting this?
Cheers
Martin

legendofthor wrote:G'day,
"The bandwidth for the month of June 2009 has been exceeded.

My apologies to all the users.

We will be back in July 2009"

Anyone else hosting this?
Cheers
Martin

Thats good news because thats the older version
here's the latest verion
http://www.ttuuxxx.gposil.com/2.14X/iso/214X4.iso
I should be updating it in about another 4 days or so, I don't mind doing it say once a week. Better that way to get things fixed and gives me some time to work on puppy 4.15
ttuuxxx

I'm now going to keep the latest version download links on page 1, so its easy to find
ttuuxxx

Ignore previous post - caneri has hosted it
Cheers
Martin

Hi ttuuxxx

Is this being mirrored to Eric's .ca site? [now answered while typing]

I'm still using 2.14x3 - seems ok/better than R101, and has become my demo/take everywhere disc

Is there an update script, rather than d/l the whole thing?

Aitch

Aitch wrote:Hi ttuuxxx

Is this being mirrored to Eric's .ca site? [now answered while typing]

I'm still using 2.14x3 - seems ok/better than R101, and has become my demo/take everywhere disc

Is there an update script, rather than d/l the whole thing?

Aitch

No arch theres only a full download of version 4, I think doing a update would be difficult, because I'm changing code here and there, removing files manually and replacing them and making links, Its complicated enough without trying to add something else to mix, lol
maybe updated like every 4 releases, lol
ttuuxxx

Hello, there!

Had the opportunity to have a musical spin with 214X4 tonight (wife's away, kids are asleep ), having a few cold ones , blasting MP3:s into my head phones . I'm very impressed by the BMP, looks like the first winamp I ever ran in very early 90's. On my set-up, choosing the ALSA Output plug-in, instead of the default(?) OSS, seems to give a better sound (half-subjective, though, remember the few cold ones , and add the factual musical style of (punk)-rock) .
A few niggly-wigglies, though: (don't know if they're inherent from 214R, though)

• The play-list objects heavily to the ID3-tags of my native songs, which are non-UTF-8 (probably saved in 8859-1???), see attached pic (the "ignore UTF-8" option in Preferences doesn't work).
  Playlist does not indicate/update when shifting to a new song.
  A bit sensitive to other applications stealing too much of system resources.

I would (if it's at all possible) very, very, much like to be able to use my old winamp-skins, how-to?

Since, (after updating all the required libs) I still can't get the 214X4-XMMS to work, nor the BigBass_XMMS:s (I'm a dedicated user of XMMS/winamp), I must state that I'm perfectly happy with BMP/Beep, though !!!!

FWIW, and cheers and such/
P