Translate LupQ - Quickset edition of Lucid Puppy

[L18L]

geany was sufficient for me.
now I will take nicoedit

Edit:
just if you do not want poedit because of its size.
use msgfmt (in devx) to create .mo files.
I have done it this way

Edit: No devx available?
use attached msgfmt

[L18L]

just used and translated and msgfmt`´ed

and used

[shinobar]

puppy-desktop-20100829 is made for LupQ-006, but potentially expanded to apply on other puppies. For JWM is good, but some trouble with IceWM when using non-UTF-8 encoding.

The detail:
IceWM with UTF-8 locales, such as 'fr_FR.UTF-8', shows proper translations, but with non-UTF-8 locales, shuch as 'fr_FR', breaks the translations.

The puppy-desktop can change the encoding UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1/2 if i modify the code to control the OUTPT_CHARMAP for gettext.
But the main problem is the *.desktop files has the translations in UTF-8 encoding and IceWM cannot correctly display them in its menu when the locale is non-UTF-8.
Hope someone resolve this problem regarding the IceWM.

The JWM shows the translations in the menu with no problem whether the locale is UTF-8 or non-UTF-8.

[esmourguit]

Bonjour à tous,

But the main problem is the *.desktop files has the translations in UTF-8 encoding and IceWM cannot correctly display them in its menu when the locale is non-UTF-8.
Hope someone resolve this problem regarding the IceWM.

That was done for Toutou 3.01, which have both jwm and icewm.
We've modified the fixmenus file.
Cordialement

[shinobar]

We've modified the fixmenus file.

Great.

EDIT: Seems not needed the attached because your fixmenus patched converts whole icewm menu from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1.

Attached outputs ISO-8859-1 with non-UTF-8 locales. But NG for your fixmenus.

[esmourguit]

Bonjour à tous,
Sorry for the late reply, I had difficulties to burn lupuq506.
I see no problem in displaying menus with accents using icewm.
It does not seem any necessary changes.
Cordialement

[esmourguit]

Bonjour à tous,
And it seems it doesn't support the locale for the menu. Even if I launch the refreshment of the menu.
This is curious, because I translated all the branches of the menu and submenus are displayed in French.
Cordialement

[shinobar]

Thanks esmourguit.

à propos, the Hungarian LupQ base on lupq-006, Lupq-006-hu-01.iso, is available. http://puppylinux.hu/
The Hungarian translates the IceWM, but cannnot switch by the other locale.

Give me a time on IceWM translation based on the new desktop translating system. The first issue is the IceWM is removed on LupQ-507

[shinobar]

It is reported that the console can not display accented letters on Magyar Lucid Puppy 5.1, Lupq-006-hu-01.
It is because of the locale problem. Lupq-006-hu-01 uses its locale as 'hu_HU.utf8'.
Most of puppies and woof uses '.utf8' for the UTF-8 encoding locales.
But '.utf8' makes trouble with some X application like urxvt.
The recommended unicode locale on LupQ is not '.utf8' but '.UTF-8'.

If you are using Lupq-006-hu-01, edit /etc/profile and find 'LANG=hu_HU.utf8' and change it to

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LANG=hu_HU.UTF-8

[shinobar]

The matter of the console (without X).
I am not sure on the older version, but most of puppies cannot display non-ASCII letters on the console.
Recent puppies have the console fonts at /lib/consolefonts, lat1-12.psfu.gz for ISO-8859-1 and lat2-12.psfu.gz for ISO-8859-2.
But they seem not work.
Try:

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# gzip -dcf /lib/consolefonts/lat1-12.psfu.gz | loadfont
loadfont: KDFONTOP: Invalid argument
# zcat /lib/consolefonts/lat1-12.psfu.gz | loadfont
loadfont: KDFONTOP: Invalid argument

We can find next line for example in /etc/rc.d/rc.country.

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echo -n "$FONTMAP" > /etc/fontmap

This code is comment outed on LupQ because a half of the console dialog cannot be seen on some hardware, maybe nvidia graphics.
I do not know who reads this file /etc/fontmap and what do.
Anyway the console cannot display non-ASCII whether the /etc/fontmap is blank or filled.

I do not intend to follow this issue further.
Someone interested in?

[shinobar]

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echo -n "$FONTMAP" > /etc/fontmap

This code is comment outed on LupQ because a half of the console dialog cannot be seen on some hardware, maybe nvidia graphics.

You may be able to reproduce the problem if you have PC with some of the NVIDIA graphics.
Note that it does not occur on LupQ.

• Boot up with ram mode(puppy pfix=ram) any pupies other than LupQ.
• Select 'de (German)' keyboard.
• After you reach to the desktop, Menu>Shutdown>Exit to the Command prompt
• Type 'xorgwizard' on the console
• You may be able to see only the top half of the dialog.

Note that 'de (German)' keyboard layout is 'QWERTZ'. You must type 'xorgwiyard' if your keyboard is 'us'.
It occurs maybe with NVIDIA graphics and the keyboard layout selected to one of them:
azerty, de, be*, br*, dk, es, fi, fr, it, no, se, sv, pt, cz, hu, pl, ro, sk*, croat, slovene.

[shinobar]

Attached /usr/local/bin/fix_menus_on_locale trial version.
Test it on the LupQ-507, with icewm-1.3.7pre2-lupq.pet available from here.

It converts the encoding when the locale is of ISO-8859-1/2. Do not convert in fixmenus.

[L18L]

@all who like to use lokalized package descriptions

activate the hidden feature of PPM i18n
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 544#448544

see attached screenshot

package descriptions
# from puppy-quirky-official
# puppy-woof-official
# puppy-5-official
# puppy-4-official
# t2-8.0rc-official
# sort --unique
# puppy-lucid-official (appended 2010-09-06)

can be translated and now used in lucid-official
(package_descr.pot for reference in attached package_descr_i18n.tar.gz)

Note 1: the original descriptions of Barry´s databases are not changed, the translation process is just an addition!

Note 2: It does not make very much sense to translate each and every description, you do not want to disappoint your "native language only" users too much. If the package cannot be used without understanding English, then I think it is better to NOT translate the package description.

Note 3: Have you yet noticed the "description: more info" button appearing with repo:ubuntu ?

feedback appreciated
have fun
szórakozás
avez du plaisir
楽

[mama21mama]

Hola,

sinceramente tiene menos español que 4.3.1.

aunque este locales para 4.3.1 se puede utilizar en v5.

seguiré usando mi lengua materna, no me gusta otro lengua que no sea español.

por lo tanto seguiré en 4.3.1 en español + locales

gracias por intentarlo.
saludos

[shinobar]

sinceramente tiene menos español que 4.3.1.

Verdad. Sé que es espléndido.
Espero que tu o alguien que va a perfeccionar la traducción de la LupQ.

gracias

[shinobar]

LupQ has mtpaint-3.34.55 but some translations(.mo) are outdated.
Attached new mtpaint.pot. Call for the translations updated.

EDIT: Do not translate the lines '? ??% zoom'. Keep them blank because the character '%' makes trouble with gettext.

[L18L]

[shinobar]

Thanks L18L.
There were 2 '>' characters in the de.po, fails xorgwizard.
Fixed and update lang_pack_de-0.2.pet.

[charlie6]

Bonjour shinobar,

LupQ has mtpaint-3.34.55 but some translations(.mo) are outdated.
Attached new mtpaint.pot. Call for the translations updated.

I wonder if the translation work already done on version 3.31 (already present in mtpaint-3.31.mo) could be re-used just to save time and energy?
In other words, is the mtpaint-3.31.pot available somewhere?
Cheers, Charlie

[shinobar]

Bonjour shinobar,I wonder if the translation work already done on version 3.31 (already present in mtpaint-3.31.mo) could be re-used just to save time and energy?
In other words, is the mtpaint-3.31.pot available somewhere?

Thanks charlie.
There are .po files already for many langages.
But some are old. They can be updated with the new .pot file using tools like poedit.
Attached all .po files available and the new .pot file.