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sheldonisaac wrote:

Gonzalo_VC wrote:Hy, guys.
...among the 2.14 versions which one is the last.
I am trying to make a PentiumIII work less sluggish. ...

214x-Top10.0 ISO
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/i ... -top10.iso[/url]
md5sum 62ca0cd3b88901f1c5f5cfca3ec662fc 214X-top10.iso

Thanks!

How would you compare these "classic" versions with Wary?
i saw the Abiword version in 2.14 was updated... so, it's quite similar to Wary. Are the kernel version too different?
Cheers!

Gonzalo_VC wrote:

sheldonisaac wrote:

Gonzalo_VC wrote:Hy, guys.
...among the 2.14 versions which one is the last.
I am trying to make a PentiumIII work less sluggish. ...

214x-Top10.0 ISO
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/i ... -top10.iso[/url]
md5sum 62ca0cd3b88901f1c5f5cfca3ec662fc 214X-top10.iso

Thanks!

How would you compare these "classic" versions with Wary?
i saw the Abiword version in 2.14 was updated... so, it's quite similar to Wary. Are the kernel version too different?
Cheers!

Sorry, don't know - hope someone more expert will reply.

Gonzalo_VC wrote:

sheldonisaac wrote:

Gonzalo_VC wrote:Hy, guys.
...among the 2.14 versions which one is the last.
I am trying to make a PentiumIII work less sluggish. ...

214x-Top10.0 ISO
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/i ... -top10.iso[/url]
md5sum 62ca0cd3b88901f1c5f5cfca3ec662fc 214X-top10.iso

Thanks!

How would you compare these "classic" versions with Wary?
i saw the Abiword version in 2.14 was updated... so, it's quite similar to Wary. Are the kernel version too different?
Cheers!

2.14X is a highly updated puppy version with an older kernel, Xorg, the kernel is half the size of Wary, I've been using 2.14X on a daily bases since I start this project 3.5yrs ago, If it works fine on your pc, I wouldn't use any other OS. I use it for my Multimedia Pc and play all my movies on my 42"lcd on it.
ttuuxxx

Gonzalo_VC wrote:

How would you compare these "classic" versions with Wary?

RAM usage is much lower with 2.14x.

ttuuxxx wrote:

Gonzalo_VC wrote:

sheldonisaac wrote:2.14X is a highly updated puppy version with an older kernel, Xorg, the kernel is half the size of Wary, I've been using 2.14X on a daily bases since I start this project 3.5yrs ago, If it works fine on your pc, I wouldn't use any other OS. I use it for my Multimedia Pc and play all my movies on my 42"lcd on it.
ttuuxxx

Nice. Thanks.

Dewbie wrote:[
RAM usage is much lower with 2.14x.

OK, Dewbie. But having 512 MB of RAM plus a swap space, the real big issue is CPU usage. Even a light distro like Puppy can become sluggish Perhaps the older kernel is the secret, I don't know this technical issues that deep.

Out of curiosity, are you still doing any updates/developments to 2.14x Ttuuxxx?

I've got Top10 running on one of my really old tinker machines and love it

Hi,
After reading some comments, other websites pages and watching sneekylinux test video , I think that I found the distribution that best fits my old Packard bell PC bought in 2001 (PIII, 1Ghz, 512 RAM, 8 Go of HD).
Well, I'd like to download the last .iso file and burn a CD of Classic Pup 2.14. but I've seen that with the last release i(214x-Top10.0) comes
a software package (devx_214X-top10.0.pet), is it included with the iso file, or should I download and install it later ? by the way, I'm quite new to the puppies , in the past, I installed xubuntu 10.04 and uninstall it shortly after because it was too slow.

anyway, thanks for the work you're doing.

Coffe wrote: Well, I'd like to download the last .iso file and burn a CD of Classic Pup 2.14. but I've seen that with the last release i(214x-Top10.0) comes
a software package (devx_214X-top10.0.pet), is it included with the iso file, or should I download and install it later ?.

The iso contains all the files needed to run Puppy Linux. The devx I think has tools for compiling and such.
.

Hi,
thanks sheldonisaac, I burned the LiveCD and made a brief test of the distro.
The CPU usage is often high 40%-60% (busy), it reaches 100% when I open some apps and it hanged three or four times. The RAM usage is low, I noticed the right click on mouse don't has an effect ?
In multimedia, divx videos were very slow with cutted sounds (I used to watch them with XP/Me). flash videos instead work quite fine.

here is the complete hardinfo report :
http://cjoint.com/12dc/BLvxWMqEqhX.htm

May be Classic Pup 2.14X isn't the right Puppy for my Desktop, I'm waiting for your comments, thanks.

Coffe wrote: May be Classic Pup 2.14X isn't the right Puppy for my Desktop, I'm waiting for your comments, thanks.

Please excuse, I am not an expert.
There are many others who are.

With those basic specs, 214X ought to fly on your system - I used it quite happily on a 450mhz laptop with slightly more RAM than yours, and my current machine is only 850mhz. However, there could be all sorts of hardware quirks coming into play. Unfortunately it can be a matter of trial and error with some systems.
It might be worth trying Wary, which is up to date, but designed for older systems, Also consider Akita.

I've been running 214X since the very beginning of this epic thread on an old 733 mhz/ 256 mb ram box with no problems.
Did you check the basics by verifying the md5 sum and that you got a good burn? Wary wouldn't be a bad choice to try either.

Hi, thanks for your comments,
well, the burn went well and I checked the md5 sum and I tried Wary and akita,
-Wary 5.1.4 has a great player, though the video and audio were not synchronized (after launching a video the sound is exceeded by the images). I plugged my wireless usb adapter (TL-WN321G) and could connect to internet very quickly . It's was ok for surfing but very slow and cutted when streaming videos on Youtube (the browser is seamonkey).
-Akita beta 13 had even more difficulties to run videos than the Classic Pup.

Ultimately, I think Wary is approximately what fit my desktop, but I have to find a way to fix the audio sync problem with divx(avi) videos.

James C & Keef : did you have any problems when running videos with your puppies ? if yes , how did you solve them ? by the way, My video card is very outdated (NVIDIA GeForce2 MX / 32 Mbytes SDRAM).

thanks.

hi Coffe

i've had success with this fix for sync problems in mplayer http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82895

666philb wrote:hi Coffe

i've had success with this fix for sync problems in mplayer http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82895

Hi and thanks 666philb, I answered in the topic you created.

Yes guys I haven't had much free time to update 2.14x lately but I'm currently working on it
ttuuxxx

Good to see you back.

James C wrote:Good to see you back.

Thanks James nice to have you around
I was ready to release the next version but, I'm still having the Firefox update issue, but I think I worked it out, basically every-time I rebuild the sfs image Firefox no longer works, but if I delete it and then replace it with one same one I have stored on my hard-drive in the same place it works, then I compared sizes, the latest Firefox is 5MB larger compressed, heck I could keep the old version and add a small gimp release and the iso would be smaller, lol anyways I looked at the Firefox folders in size and its 2mb smaller. What i think is happening is that we've hit the max sfs file and some parts of Firefox is being transferred during the squashsfs build, the pup_214X.sfs expanded is 299MB and I think there is a 300mb sfs limit for the older squash system. So no idea what to do now, maybe have a browser selector like newer puppies and only include dillo. keep the older browser?, I could compile the latest but then people can't update, mozilla doesn't like it when custom builds update with main stream browsers, it messes with there stability/crashes reports.
ttuuxxx

also guys if you see the lung thing after my post, its basically I stopped smoking after 25+ years and started vaping, vaping you use a Rip-Off which contains around 15 chemicals, not 4000 like a cig and as long you stick to good suppliers you'll never get cancer, you'll get rid of smokers cough, etc. its kind of a way to stop smoking because its based on water vapor, or you can continue and forget about the bad things. right now I feel 100% better, but I did import some really cheap stuff from china that went wrong, the stuff from UK, USA, Canada, NZ so far has been the best. In Australia its illegal to sell it with nicotine, but its ok to import a 3 months supply. If anyone wants to stop smoking pm me and I'll set you up with what you need a lot cheaper and healthier than most will sell you, depending where you live, I don't make any commission on it, its just that I've tried stop well over 30+ times and this at least won't kill me in the end.
ttuuxxx

Just did a fresh full install of Top 10 on an old P4 test box..... no problems. Everything pretty well working ootb.

Went ahead and installed SeaMonkey 2.14.1.....works fine.Time to tweak a bit more.

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 2594MB (190MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 04 Jan 2013 11:21:17 PM PUP
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Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : (null)
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5