slacko-6.0 beta 2

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01micko · #481 Post by **01micko** » Wed 16 Jul 2014, 10:32

shinobar wrote:I have tested playback my test video files with slacko 5.9.3 RAM mode.
Curiously it plays back twice mpeg or vob files.
All others, avi, mp4 etc., once.

VLC player on TahrPup plays once for every file.

This was a perplexing bug! The DVD playback was no problem. There was only 1 gnome-mplayer process, and only 1 mplayer process, as expected, but even CTRL-C and the window would not die on the 1st go.

It seemed to be stuck in a small loop.

Anyway, it's a bug against glib, fixed by upgrading to gnome-mplayer-1.0.9b, both in slacko and slacko64.

xanad · #482 Post by **xanad** » Wed 16 Jul 2014, 16:37

Hi all,
I see that Pdisk and DidiWiki-gui are not localized with gettetxt. If you need it
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 538#789538

James C · #483 Post by **James C** » Thu 17 Jul 2014, 04:54

More on the newer kernel/nouveau freezing problem.......

Just did a fresh install of Debian Testing aka Jessie....kernel k-3.11.10 using nouveau..... no problem.

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[    13.540] Current Operating System: Linux jessie-mate 3.11-2-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.11.10-1 (2013-12-04) i686
[    13.540] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.11-2-686-pae root=UUID=623ea763-6b88-4f01-8cf7-5d02e0f0d50f ro quiet splash
[    13.540] Build Date: 13 December 2013  10:45:09AM
[    13.540] xorg-server 2:1.14.5-1 (Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@ubuntu.com>)

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X.Org X Server 1.14.5

James C · #484 Post by **James C** » Thu 17 Jul 2014, 05:07

Upgraded the kernel to k-3.14.x ....rebooted got to the desktop and froze up.Back in k-3.11.10 now.
Starting to give me a headache.

shinobar · #485 Post by **shinobar** » Thu 17 Jul 2014, 05:19

@01mixko

shinobar wrote:1. Some Windows 7/8 has a small(100-200MB) partition for boot. I don't know about recovery partitions.

I realized some Windows recovary with old MSDOS, without WINDOWS directory.

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--- puppyinstaller-4	2014-07-10 14:30:37.000000000 +0900
+++ puppyinstaller	2014-07-17 14:17:13.956594953 +0900
@@ -206,7 +206,7 @@
 	        [ "$NEWW" != "" ] && DISTROW="New Windows"
 	        [ "$SIXTY4W" != "" ] && DISTROW="Windows 64 bit"
 	      fi
-	    elif  [ "$MEDW" != "" ] || [ "$NEWW" != "" ];then
+	    elif  [ "$ANCW$OLDW$MEDW$NEWW" != "" ] ;then
 	        DISTROW="Windows boot"
 	        [ "$NEWW" != "" ] && DISTROW="New Windows boot"
 	    else

xanad · #486 Post by **xanad** » Thu 17 Jul 2014, 15:11

Sorry, when I tried to configure the wireless network, I found several problems with ndiswrapper

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# modprobe ndiswrapper
FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
#

no problem with 571

BUu · #487 Post by **BUu** » Thu 17 Jul 2014, 19:09

xanad wrote:Sorry, when I tried to configure the wireless network, I found several problems with ndiswrapper
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# modprobe ndiswrapper
FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
#
no problem with 571

Hello friends, OK?

I'm from Brazil and I'm having problems I can't use slacko 5.9.3 on my pc
I use unetbootin and puppy bootflash 5.7.1 retro but I can't seem to boot I can use the puppy need 5.7.1 retro with unetbootin windows but the error slacko---> slacko_5.9.3.sfs not found don't you think the file. SFS I tested on virtual box on windows 7 and ran the boot worked
I have 4 gigs of ram intel celeron processor E3400 maybe dual core
Thank you!

Sorry if I wrote in the wrong place

mcewanw · #488 Post by **mcewanw** » Fri 18 Jul 2014, 03:34

As user Moat also noticed, for some reason or other Retrovol uses a ridiculous amount of CPU and I think always has:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 858#783858

It seems to use at least pretty constant 5% CPU (on any of my computers anyway), which makes it one of the most CPU hungry processes on my system most of the time!. I have no idea why it does that, but feel that it either needs dropped or fixed in that respect. I tend to use http://softwarebakery.com/maato/volumeicon.html as a volume control applet instead,which shows 0% CPU usage on my system. But then I lose the nice Retrovol mixer interface (though personally I have no problem using alsamixer).

William

xanad · #489 Post by **xanad** » Fri 18 Jul 2014, 08:01

Resolution forgetfulness gettext parameters in 'menumanager', missing strings beginning of the file:

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export TEXTDOMAIN=menumanager
export OUTPUT_CHARSET=UTF-8

solution: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppyviewtop ... 784#789784

L18L · #490 Post by **L18L** » Fri 18 Jul 2014, 09:18

xanad wrote:Resolution forgetfulness gettext parameters in 'menumanager', missing strings beginning of the file:
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export TEXTDOMAIN=menumanager
export OUTPUT_CHARSET=UTF-8
solution: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppyviewtop ... 784#789784

Not found, anyway
...and

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    <button space-expand="false" space-fill="false">
      <label>'$(gettext "Cancel")'</label>
      '"`/usr/lib/gtkdialog/xml_button-icon cancel`"'
      <action>exit:Cancel</action>
    </button>
    <button space-expand="false" space-fill="false">
      <label>'$(gettext "Ok")'</label>

can be simply just

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    <button cancel>
      <action>exit:Cancel</action>
    </button>
    <button ok>

xanad · #491 Post by **xanad** » Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:08

Not found, anyway

I have not compiled the code, I just added these 2 lines

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export TEXTDOMAIN=menumanager
export OUTPUT_CHARSET=UTF-8

that are not present in the original file (slacko57/59). After additions is recognized by momanager and works fine.

Jades · #492 Post by **Jades** » Fri 18 Jul 2014, 19:50

Just tried running a Slacko 593 Frugal on the other NTFS drive and it has the same problem with exceptionally slow booting as I previously reported. The LiveCD installs on the same drive are working perfectly. Very strange!

James C · #493 Post by **James C** » Sat 19 Jul 2014, 02:51

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.9.3

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C68 [GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

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# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
3105 frames in 5.0 seconds = 620.877 FPS
3200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 639.781 FPS
3312 frames in 5.0 seconds = 662.393 FPS
3368 frames in 5.0 seconds = 673.263 FPS
3327 frames in 5.0 seconds = 665.386 FPS

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-Computer-
Processor		: 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
Memory		: 3886MB (426MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: Slacko Puppy - 5.9.3
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Fri 18 Jul 2014 09:49:08 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution		: 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Gallium 0.4 on NV67
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter		: PC-Speaker - pcsp

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-Version-
Kernel		: Linux 3.15.4 (i686)
Version		: #1 SMP Mon Jul 7 16:46:57 BST 2014
C Library		: GNU C Library version 2.17 (stable)
Distribution		: Slacko Puppy - 5.9.3

James C · #494 Post by **James C** » Sat 19 Jul 2014, 05:22

Just some more kernel/Nvidia info......

Just installed the latest Tahr 5.8.3 w/ k-3.15.4 on the old Athlon XP box w/ the old Nvidia card. Working fine with no boot parameters.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: tahrpup, version 5.8.3

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

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# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.421 FPS
375 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.946 FPS
373 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.554 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.126 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.975 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.093 FPS

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-Computer-
Processor		: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory		: 1027MB (325MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: tahrpup - 5.8.3
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Sat 19 Jul 2014 12:13:32 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution		: 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: VIA8233 - VIA 8235

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-Version-
Kernel		: Linux 3.15.4 (i686)
Version		: #1 SMP Mon Jul 7 16:46:57 BST 2014
C Library		: GNU C Library version 2.19 (stable)
Distribution		: tahrpup - 5.8.3

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1027828       931292        96536            0        59516
-/+ buffers:             871776       156052
Swap:      1228936            0      1228936
#

If I get time tomorrow I'll try some different kernels in Slacko 5.9.3.

SFR · #495 Post by **SFR** » Sat 19 Jul 2014, 13:26

Jades wrote:A frugal install of 593 on sdb2, NTFS format, isn't getting past the login step, both with a save file created on the initial pfix=ram and one from booting it again after the former was deleted.

Jades wrote:Just tried running a Slacko 593 Frugal on the other NTFS drive and it has the same problem with exceptionally slow booting as I previously reported.

I can confirm this.
PUPMODE=12 + 512MiB slackosave.4fs on sda1 (NTFS)

The hang begins right after login [xxxxx]: root login on 'tty1' and it takes ~6-7 minutes (with extremely high HDD activity) to reach the desktop.

Here's what I have determined so far:
- the old workaround for IO bug (remount with 'sync') seems to be the culprit; disabling it fixes the problem (but "unfixes" the IO bug - yes, it's still there in k3.4.94!)
- the problem affects only 3fs & 4fs, 2fs is ok

Apparently journaled filesystems (ext3/4) don't like the 'sync' parameter...
I wonder why didn't I notice it before? Probably because the majority of my old tests were performed in PUPMODE=13 and some slowdown was noticeable*, but only while saving the session...

* But not so singnificant actually, probably because 'snapmergepuppy' is the only process that writes to pup_ro1 in PM=13 at given time and I think the terrible slowdown is caused by conflicts between various processes reading/writing from/to pup_rw simultaneously in PM=12+ext3/4+sync, especially at boot.

So, the best fix I can think of ATM is to disable the hack for 3/4fs in PUPMODES other than 3/7/13 (welcome back IO bug

), but leave it for 2fs in all PUPMODES.
Another "fix" would be to ban all 3.2.x & 3.4.x kernels.

Diff against rc.sysinit from Shino's Slacko-5.9.3.6:

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--- old/rc.sysinit	2014-07-08 06:16:20.000000000 +0200
+++ new/rc.sysinit	2014-07-19 14:25:26.726604073 +0200
@@ -899,11 +899,13 @@
 if [ ! "$PUPMODE" = 5 ];then  
   if vercmp $KERNVER ge 3.2 ;then
     if vercmp $KERNVER lt 3.8 ;then
-      case "$DEV1FS" in
-      ntfs|vfat|ext2)
-      mount -o remount,sync /dev/loop1 # changed 130210, SFR
-      ;;
-      esac
+      if [ "${PUPSAVE##*.}" = "2fs" ] || [ ${PUPMODE} -eq 3 -o ${PUPMODE} -eq 7 -o ${PUPMODE} -eq 13 ] ; then
+        case "$DEV1FS" in
+        ntfs|vfat|ext2)
+        mount -o remount,sync /dev/loop1 # changed 130210, SFR
+        ;;
+        esac
+      fi
     fi
   fi
 fi

Tested with slackosave.2fs & slackosave.4fs, each of them in PM=12 & PM=13.

@Jades: was it indeed 3/4fs savefile? If so could you please create and check also 2fs?

Greetings!

SFR · #496 Post by **SFR** » Sat 19 Jul 2014, 14:58

New bug (5.9.3.6, initrd.gz with or without altered keymaps).
Booting off usb flash drive (vfat) with pkeys=<lang> (checked with pl and fr) parameter causes:

Searching for Puppy files... pausing...puppy_slacko_5.9.3.sfs not found. Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console...

Note that even ydrv isn't found.

I see in init that the default VFAT_OUT_PARAM is:

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VFAT_OUT_PARAM='shortname=mixed,quiet,utf8' #140102 rodin.s: added utf8 for flash drive to be mounted with utf-8 if boot is done from flash drive

Probably that's why everything is ok when we won't use pkeys.
But in case of:
- pkeys=de*|be*|br*|dk*|es*|fi*|fr*|it*|no*|se*|pt* it's:

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VFAT_OUT_PARAM="$OUT_PARAM"',codepage=850'

- pkeys=cz*|hu*|pl*|ro*|sk*|croat*|slovene*) it's:

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VFAT_OUT_PARAM="$OUT_PARAM"',codepage=852,iocharset=iso8859-2'

Commenting out the above two lines fixed the problem for me, though I'm not sure if it's the proper way.
___________

Another, less significant issue is that when I use my rebuilt keymaps (Unicode), pkeys=<lang> loads the proper keymap and console font, what allows to type password with diacritics for encrypted savefile, but some time later ("Loading kernel modules"), when the screen resolution increases, the console font (not keymap!) gets resetted to the defaults.
The resolution change is common for new Slackos based on 14.1.
I guess it's radeon + newer xorg specific issue, because it doesn't happen in QEmu.

Hmm, it's no so crucial, but I think we could add one more test for PKEYS at a later stage and reload the console font if needed...

Greetings!

darkcity · #497 Post by **darkcity** » Sat 19 Jul 2014, 22:58

Seems to run fine on my machine-

Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory : 1545MB (269MB used)
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915G GEM 20100328 2010Q1 x86/MMX/SSE2
Audio Adapter : CA0106 - CA0106
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH6

However, I can not get the wireless adapter to show up, its a-
Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller

Works with Slacko 5.3.1 using the b43 module.

Also, the SFS selected before making a pupsave showed in SFS_Load but were not loaded. Load okay after making a pupsave.

shinobar · #498 Post by **shinobar** » Sun 20 Jul 2014, 02:18

darkcity wrote:the SFS selected before making a pupsave showed in SFS_Load but were not loaded. Load okay after making a pupsave.

Where did you install Puppy, or from where booted off?
Where you saved the pupsave?
Where is the SFS?

xanad · #499 Post by **xanad** » Sun 20 Jul 2014, 09:43

gettext in 'Gparted_shell':

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 123#790123

related discussion:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 3&start=45

darkcity · #500 Post by **darkcity** » Sun 20 Jul 2014, 09:46

shinobar wrote:
darkcity wrote:the SFS selected before making a pupsave showed in SFS_Load but were not loaded. Load okay after making a pupsave.
Where did you install Puppy, or from where booted off?
Where you saved the pupsave?
Where is the SFS?

Puppy was frugal installed to harddrive /mnt/home/slacko

No pupsave - first boot

Set up asked me which SFSs to load

----

Then rebooted making pupsave directory in /mnt/home/slacko

Opened SFS_Load it showed SFS I had selected but the programs were not present.

SFS files libreoffice and java, located in /mnt/home/

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slacko-6.0 beta 2

Re: gmplayer plays mpeg back twice

PUI and recovary partition

Retrovol uses too much CPU so prefer an alternative.

SFS load without pupsave

Re: SFS load without pupsave