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MinHundHettePerro

Yes /mnt/hdb9 definitely exists. I also deleted /dev/hdb9 and remade it using your mknod method. But still get mount errors on booting even though all works fine apart from that.

Thanks for the extra info on adding partitions to Pmount. I'll file it away for when needed. Good stuff.

In general I have to be realistic and say that most likely the average user of 214x won't have a ton of partitions so I doubt they'll find such problems common.

But TeenPup for example is also based on 214. Both 214X and TeenPup seem really good potential distros that I'd like to expand them out to be used not only on the old stuff but also on other kit. Plus I have a curiosity to learn how this all works. Hence my interest.

Thanks for the educational posts.

Cheers
Dave

Hi guys I found this newer mut2/pmount, and compiled it, for the people having isues, could you please try these 2, just extract the package anywhere and open the folder, then click on
pmount-dingo6
and then try
pmount-puppy213
thanks
ttuuxxx

I'm not having issues but tried your test mut's.

pmount-dingo6
would only show the floppy drive

pmount-puppy213
same

2 for the trash ttuuxxx?.

Hello, ttuuxxx!
Tried the pmounts; the dingo6 variant has the nice feature that it sorts the drives like e.g. sdc1, sdc2, ..., sdc9, sdc10, unlike the 214X-pmount, which sorts like sdc1, sdc10, sdc11, ... sdc2.
But, I need the tabbed interface of 214X-pmount, since I have so many partitions and use 800x600 res.

213 variant; crap Sorts the drives in what seems like completely random numerical order.

My wish, if I may, is to keep the 214X pmounter, because of the tabbed interface.

Maybe the 214X- and dingo6- variants could be blended .

cheers/
MHHP

MinHundHettePerro wrote:Hello, ttuuxxx!
Tried the pmounts; the dingo6 variant has the nice feature that it sorts the drives like e.g. sdc1, sdc2, ..., sdc9, sdc10, unlike the 214X-pmount, which sorts like sdc1, sdc10, sdc11, ... sdc2.
But, I need the tabbed interface of 214X-pmount, since I have so many partitions and use 800x600 res.

213 variant; crap Sorts the drives in what seems like completely random numerical order.

My wish, if I may, is to keep the 214X pmounter, because of the tabbed interface.

Maybe the 214X- and dingo6- variants could be blended .

cheers/
MHHP

I could add the tabs (I can do that,lol) but OlddogNewtricks had issue with only seeing the floppy, lol it worked perfect on my pc, just wondered if it could see all those hard drives like 9+ partitions that users have had issues with.
ttuuxxx

Not sure what is going on???
ttuuxxx I just did exactly what you said and, like OlddogNewtricks I could only see the Floppy Drive. Yet MHHP seems to have been able to get it to work??!!
What magic did you do this time, MHHP?
Dave

EDIT:
Thinks ...My test PC and OlddogNewtricks uses PATA (hdx) I believe. MHHT and ttuuxxx use SATA (sdx)? Could this be a reason here?
Grasping at straws here.

Running pmount-dingo6 from the directory where I un-packed it shows all partitions correctly. Forgot to test mounting before , so I did that now; doesn't seem like anything is mounted, pmount disappears (for a long time). Copied mut and pmount-dingo6 (and renamed it) to /usr/sbin, now it works perfectly. The new mut, though, seems like a much better back-end to pmount than the probepart/probedisk used in pmount-214X. I think I might try to make a tabbed version of pmount-dingo6, if and when I get the time (there's always a shortage of that).

Maybe the reason it all works so well for me is that my "modern" main rig is a PIII 533MHz, 192 MB with disks:
sh-3.00# mut probepart -m
/dev/hda1|ext2|8|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/hda2|ext2|65|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/hda3|vfat|65|Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda4|none|12872|Extended (contains other slice)
/dev/hda5|ext2|1044|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/hda6|vfat|9113|Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda7|swap|534|Linux Swap
/dev/hda8|ext2|937|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/hda9|ext2|1241|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/hdb1|vfat|13662|Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hdc|iso9660|0|HL-DT-ST GCE-8526B 1.03
/dev/hdd|iso9660|0|HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GH22NP20 1.02
/dev/sda1|vfat|9097|Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdb1|vfat|2163|Win95 FAT32
/dev/sdc1|vfat|34356|Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdc2|vfat|34356|Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdc3|vfat|34356|Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdc4|none|146985|Win98 Extended (LBA)
/dev/sdc5|ext2|8587|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sdc6|vfat|34356|Win95 FAT32
/dev/sdc7|vfat|34356|Win95 FAT32
/dev/sdc8|vfat|34356|Win95 FAT32
/dev/sdc9|vfat|9557|Win95 FAT32
/dev/sdc10|ext2|8587|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sdc11|ext3|4293|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sdc12|ext3|4293|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sdc13|ext3|4293|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sdc14|vfat|4301|Win95 FAT32
(sizes in MB)
hda, hdb - IDE, sda, sdb - SCSI, sdc - ext. USB

cheers/
MHHP

davesurrey wrote:Not sure what is going on???
ttuuxxx I just did exactly what you said and, like OlddogNewtricks I could only see the Floppy Drive. Yet MHHP seems to have been able to get it to work??!!
What magic did you do this time, MHHP?
Dave

EDIT:
Thinks ...My test PC and OlddogNewtricks uses PATA (hdx) I believe. MHHT and ttuuxxx use SATA (sdx)? Could this be a reason here?
Grasping at straws here.

hi Dave try this
Install the package below, refresh your menus, then goto usr/sbin and drag pmount to your desktop and then try it, you also might have to press the refresh button on pmount, also make sure all older versions are closed, ttuuxxx

Thanks for this ttuuxxx.
Unfortunately I still get just Floppy Drive in the window. Really confused what is going on here as MHHT seems to have it working.
Dave

dave did you make sure all pmount/mut were closed, use menu/task manager, also unmount all your partitions, probably even better to reboot, I had that problem also because my dvd was mounted with old pmount, so I had to unmount the dvd drive first, and restart x-server, Then I had to drag the usr/sbin/pmount to the desktop. That was strange that the desktop one didn't change and I had to manually replace it. Then finally it worked.
ttuuxxx

Yes I've just done another reinstall of 214X4 (and taken off TeenPup to avoid any clash of 214 distros) and followed your instructions to the tee.
I get two files in /usr/sbin.

pmount which gives the same FDD only icon as per the last jpg above

Also pmount-puppy213 which initially gave me a window containing my FDD, and both DVD drives but no HDDs. Then on clicking it again I get the FDD only window.

This on a new install!??

Too tired and despondant so giving up for the night. Thanks for all your help today ttuuxxx.

Dave

aaaaaah dave I don't blame ya on giving up for the night,
hey guys here another MUT but with scrollbars, please try this one

Another day, another set of challenges...

This morning I deleted everything I could find that related to anything about any version of 214. Then did a frugal reinstall of 214X4 and installed Mut011tcl-with-scroll.pet
It worked.

I still have to add any hdb's in /dev if they are larger than hdb9 and in Mut the label text still overlaps the partition size, plus the desktop icons still are not contiguous and the order in Pmount is still not 1 to 12 but 10, 11, 12, 1, 2 3... but at least it is working again.

Cheers
Dave

This is so funny, I never seen so much messing around with pmount/mut before, its almost like watching a soap-opera unfold, lol.
Well its all good and lots of fun trying to work it out
Do you have a screenshot so I can give it to Jesse.
Probably one that doesn't have anything added, just what it looks like by default.
ttuuxxx

Isn't hotpup working?

The most resilient build of MUT I've seen is in 2.13 - must be the TCL/TK combination there, too.

ttuuxxx:

1. I have attached a screenshot of the latest MUT showing overlapping volume labels. I have sent you similar before but here's the latest you asked for.

2. The other issues I mentioned above don't (in my feeble understanding) seem to relate just to MUT, but to either PMount or the problem that Puppys don't seem to come with enough dev files for some of us. Plus the icon order issue.

3. As this is taking up so much of your time can I suggest you drop it and go on to more important issues for the rest of the crowd. Perhaps if you bring out a 214x5 with the fixes that you have it would be good to test that.

Just some of my thoughts .
Dave

Hi Dave

I don't mind spending my time on it its always better to get things fixed if its possible, plus I'm also working on the next 4.15 build, Barry suggested that I add the better parts of 4.2 to it and update some graphics, Since I built a good portion of the packages in 4.2, I have a very good understanding on what works and what doesn't plus what people liked and didn't etc. So I said ya sure, so I'm working on the graphics to start with, almost finished the mimes, next is the icons, then the packages, some scripts etc. . Only thing is that 415 base is 101MB and I need to keep it at 100MB, lol plus add apps, buts ok I found some room,
ttuuxxx

Hello there!
Another day, another mut .
The scrollbar mut is absolutely brilliant!!!

On the sorting issue:
Editing the last line of /sbin/probepart

echo -e "$OUTPUT" #| sort

makes pmount display the partitions in correct descending order. To set it to ascending order pmount has to be reversely hacked to counteract the effect of the following lines of pmount Regarding the ordering of HotPup icons, I haven't found out the reason yet.
In general, I have a vague hunch that the culprit of the strange ordering is the "sort"-command.

I once ditched 3.01 because I couldn't mount sdc9 and even if MUT would see it, it couldn't display it on screen.
So, everything I learn from this discussion, I apply to 3.01, making it useful again.

Thanks


cheers/
MHHP

Good afternoon MHHP (well it is in the UK):

Great news about your fix to sort the partitions in Pmount (although the Australia way of sorting upside down is interesting to say the least.)

As well as the fix in /sbin/probepart I re-ordered the lines 376 to 388 in /usr/sbin/pmount and Pmount is now sorting correctly.

By the way I guess you also found a /sbin/probepart6 file as well for "exotic fs".

Thanks for this.

ttuuxxx perhaps you'll put this fix in the next version, please.

If only the icons would behave the same.

Thanks again
Dave

As you know guys I don't have any issues with partitions on my sata2 drives, Could one of you that has the numbering issues etc add what ever fixes to mut you implemented and post the file here for us to try, If it works all around then I could safely install it in the next release , just tar.gz it up if thats easier than making a pet.
thanks
ttuuxxx