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Posted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 21:49
by pemasu
Majorfoo. Yeah. Icons are still defective. I havent touched to them yet. I will do the job when the core works good enough.
Abiword from debian wheezy needs gtk-3.0, so it is out. Gnumeric might work ok, if you install all the dependencies.

When you say that network is not autoconnected, do you mean that you cant manually get network connected. if you mean that, please post the result of this command in console: dmesg > dmesg.gz
as attachment.

Posted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 22:02
by majorfoo
pemasu wrote:Majorfoo. Yeah. Icons are still defective. I havent touched to them yet. I will do the job when the core works good enough.
Abiword from debian wheezy needs gtk-3.0, so it is out. Gnumeric might work ok, if you install all the dependencies.

When you say that network is not autoconnected, do you mean that you cant manually get network connected. if you mean that, please post the result of this command in console: dmesg > dmesg.gz
as attachment.
I can manually connect to the internet - no problem.
Most Puppies I use auto connect to the internet on boot up

You are a busy fellow. Don't know how you keep so many balls bouncing at one time
Appreciate your dedication to Puppy and the new versions that you provide.

Posted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 03:09
by rerwin
majorfoo,
I can manually connect to the internet - no problem.
Most Puppies I use auto connect to the internet on boot up
This is the kind of report I am looking for. Please PM me a pmodemdiag file taken when you first notice the problem upon bootup, so I can see if my change to the module loader is involved. Thanks.
Richard

Posted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 03:47
by James C
Fresh manual frugal install on the Athlon XP box....... booted to the correct 1440x900 resolution with working sound and internet.

# report-video
Dpup Wheezy, version 3.5.2.1 on Tue 28 Aug 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#

Code: Select all

Multimedia audio controller		: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller 
Ethernet controller		: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ 
VGA compatible controller		: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] 
Updated Firefox to 15.0 as well.....no problem.

Dpup Wheezy. Woof2 built debian wheezy packages based Puppy

Posted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 05:46
by Billtoo
I did a manual frugal install to the hard drive.

# report-video
Dpup Wheezy, version 3.5.2.1 on Wed 29 Aug 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
oem: SiS
product: 6325 1.05.00

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: sis

X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

Computer
Processor mobile AMD Duron(tm)
Memory 708MB (89MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Wed 29 Aug 2012 01:14:22 AM EDT

Processor
Name mobile AMD Duron(tm)
Family, model, stepping 6, 7, 0 (AMD Duron (Morgan))
Vendor AuthenticAMD
Configuration
Cache Size 64kb
Frequency 850.05MHz
BogoMIPS 1700.93
Byte Order Little Endian

Firefox updated to 15.0 and seemed to be working okay but crashed. I
restarted it and it's working again, posting from it now.

Posted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 10:28
by stu91
Hi Pemasu,
Good news - report-video is showing radeon driver in use on first boot. Bad news - running xorgwizard after making driver selection it hangs at loading xorg.conf

Still problems for me with b43 wireless - it is not available on first boot - after creating a save file and reboot it seems to be loaded but the little wireless light is not on and i am unable to make a connection.

Posted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 13:37
by pemasu
Stu91. Thank you of the report. Good to know that radeon works for you. Xorgwizard is broken. I have managed to restore X by replacing - deleting the files in /etc/X11 and copying back from /initrd/pup_ro2/etc/X11. Then the X boots with default driver just like when you boot first time.
I havent ever much tried to understand how xorgwizard works. Well....I try to learn about it.....

About b43. I believe this goes to your broadcom 4311 chip and rerwin`s new logistic problem. The preferences.log shows that wl - ssb axis fails:
20:04:48.022 9212 wl - Replaced by b43 for unsupported card (wl.conf)
20:04:48.048 8285 wl - Unload failed for module: ssb

Your b44 seems to load ok though. I believe your report is valuable for rerwin.

8a delta patch

Posted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 15:51
by rerwin
stu91, pemasu, majorfoo,
About b43. I believe this goes to your broadcom 4311 chip and rerwin`s new logistic problem. The preferences.log shows that wl - ssb axis fails:
20:04:48.022 9212 wl - Replaced by b43 for unsupported card (wl.conf)
20:04:48.048 8285 wl - Unload failed for module: ssb

Your b44 seems to load ok though. I believe your report is valuable for rerwin.
Indeed! Thank you, stu91. But the "unload failed" message is misleading -- it means that after wl should have been loaded ssb seen as loaded -- but the "replacement" loaded b43 instead of wl, and b43 loaded ssb as a dependency, so it looked like a failure to unload ssb before loading wl, but was something else.

On the assumption, though, that the replacement-loading of b43 is related to the inability to detect/connect the wifi, I attach a patch to the wl.conf file to skip loading of b43. Although this seems counterproductive, I believe that b43 was already started by ssb before ssb got unloaded. That was the way the previous experiment packages handled this special case.

Please install the attached delta package and reboot. If that does not fix the problem, I will have more work to do on a solution.

Stu91, if the patch works, could you determine whether the (b44) ethernet connection actually works, too?
Richard

Very fast!

Posted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 16:06
by kros54
That's not nothing! Perhaps the least power puplet RAM, the Turbo since.
Minor problem: the desktop is write, calc, chat icon, but the programs are missing. It does not matter who you want, and then install them.
I applied for the Hungarian language pack, lang_pack_hu-lupq-0.4.pet very well and stood over to the Hungarian language.
So far everything is working, congratulations.

Posted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 16:16
by pemasu
Desktop icons miss the linked applications....and I dont know yet what I will provide for them. For chat probably Xchat or Pidgin.
( I have already compiled latest Pidgin-2.10.6 and used it last night in #puppylinux )
Abiword - Gnumeric - etc will need compiling....and I dont know if I will include them....or just put them to the repo. Maybe...maybe not. It is because I dont use either of them. Libreoffice is my app for them.
Xorgwizard is major problem atm.

Posted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 18:01
by kros54
Desktop icons: no problem, I just wrote 2 second improvement...
Abiword - Gnumeric - etc will need compiling....and I dont know if I will include them....or just put them to the repo. Maybe...maybe not. It is because I dont use either of them. Libreoffice is my app for them.
I totally agree. I used to work with Softmaker2008-pet, rather like to use the same package, very small, 11 MB, and all-purpose.
The big question is to work with an older machines.
The direction is very good!

Posted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 22:08
by pemasu
I have gotten bit forward with xorgwizard not working. /usr/sbin/xorgwizard has these rows:
#autoprobe...
Xorg -configure > /tmp/xorgprobe.txt 2>&1
#... config in /root/xorg.conf.new

but Xorg -configure does this to me: demonstrated in X with this command: Xorg -configure :1
(++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new"
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
Configuration failed.
Server terminated with error (2). Closing log file.

It seems that autoprobe does not work right for me. It might explain something.

But Xorg autoconfiguring works. If I delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and restart X, the autoconfiguring selects intel xorg driver for me and X starts.

Broadcom wifi

Posted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 23:39
by rerwin
Pemasu, stu91,
I have just now booted up 3.5.2.1 and I have the same Broadcom problem as sut91 and probably majorfoo. My BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller does not get detected even though its b43 driver is loaded. I see that I, as a programmer, mistakenly assumed I was responsible for anything that goes wrong with wifi. But in this case, there is another factor. Stu91's message log:
  • Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.info kernel: [ 37.316732] ssb: Found chip with id 0x4311, rev 0x01 and package 0x00
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.debug kernel: [ 37.316748] ssb: Core 0 found: ChipCommon (cc 0x800, rev 0x11, vendor 0x4243)
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.debug kernel: [ 37.316756] ssb: Core 1 found: IEEE 802.11 (cc 0x812, rev 0x0A, vendor 0x4243)
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.debug kernel: [ 37.316764] ssb: Core 2 found: USB 1.1 Host (cc 0x817, rev 0x03, vendor 0x4243)
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.debug kernel: [ 37.316771] ssb: Core 3 found: PCI-E (cc 0x820, rev 0x01, vendor 0x4243)
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.info kernel: [ 37.373476] ssb: Sonics Silicon Backplane found on PCI device 0000:05:00.0
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.info kernel: [ 37.376389] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.info kernel: [ 37.388804] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4311 WLAN found (core revision 10)
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.info kernel: [ 37.456820] Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMNLS ]
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.err kernel: [ 37.508790] firmware ssb0:0: firmware_loading_store: unexpected value (0)
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.err kernel: [ 37.536467] firmware ssb0:0: firmware_loading_store: vmap() failed
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.err kernel: [ 37.537361] firmware ssb0:0: firmware_loading_store: unexpected value (0)
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.err kernel: [ 37.537510] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/b0g0initvals5.fw" not found
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.err kernel: [ 37.537513] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43-open/b0g0initvals5.fw" not found
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.err kernel: [ 37.537517] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Dri ... cefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website.
The mysterious "missing firmware" problem, even though I see that the file: "b43/b0g0initvals5.fw" is actually present in the iso (pup_ro2 layer)!
EDIT: My log shows the same thing, even though it does not try to use the wl driver, at all.

So, the 8a-delta package will not solve the problem and can be ignored for now, until we resolve the firmware issue. And I have no idea what the problem could be with the firmware.
EDIT: I will be including 8a in the experiment package because it is vital if the firmware is not already present in /lib/firmware, which is how most woof-puppies are set up.
Richard

Posted: Thu 30 Aug 2012, 10:21
by charlie6
Hi Pemasu,
pemasu wrote:Charlie6. ...
And....why dont you install libgl1-mesa-dri using PPM ? It contains dri drivers.
It has dri for nouveau: nouveau_dri.so.
...
«why dont you install libgl1-mesa-dri using PPM ?» ...i have been often deceived by PPM working till now. But this one seems working better ! Congratulations !!

So have installed libgl1-mesa-dri using PPM and no better result about gCAD3D ==> same results as on previous post.

Here is glxgears snapshot showing black glxgears display (glxgears extracted from xorg-high-0.0.1.pet from dpup-exprimo repo); maybe /usr/bin/glxgears is not of compatible version; maybe nouveau°dri.so has also problem...?

Using nouveau_dri.so improves dramaticaly youtube videos dispay and video performances anyway :) . (ca. 600 frames in 5.0 seconds if not using nouveau_dri.so !!!)

Re: Broadcom wifi

Posted: Thu 30 Aug 2012, 10:37
by stu91
rerwin wrote:Pemasu, stu91,
I have just now booted up 3.5.2.1 and I have the same Broadcom problem as sut91 and probably majorfoo. My BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller does not get detected even though its b43 driver is loaded. I see that I, as a programmer, mistakenly assumed I was responsible for anything that goes wrong with wifi. But in this case, there is another factor. Stu91's message log:
  • Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.err kernel: [ 37.537510] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/b0g0initvals5.fw" not found
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.err kernel: [ 37.537513] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43-open/b0g0initvals5.fw" not found
    Aug 29 11:04:54 puppypc1000 user.err kernel: [ 37.537517] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Dri ... cefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website.
The mysterious "missing firmware" problem, even though I see that the file: "b43/b0g0initvals5.fw" is actually present in the iso (pup_ro2 layer)!

So, the 8a-delta package will not solve the problem and can be ignored for now, until we resolve the firmware issue. And I have no idea what the problem could be with the firmware.
Richard
Hi Rerwin,
thanks for your persistence, this blasted b43 wireless seems to be nothing but a pain :x
Do you think it could be a kernel bug with 3.5.2 as 3.4.2 works ok.
poking around i also got this message about format error as well.
[ 32.939597] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4311 WLAN found (core revision 10)
[ 33.120931] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/b0g0initvals5.fw" not found
[ 33.120936] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43-open/ucode5.fw" format error.

Posted: Thu 30 Aug 2012, 12:40
by OscarTalks
Trying Wheezy 3.5.2.1 on my old desktop.

Also finding that internet does not auto connect but it will work if I use Network Wizard to configure manually.

This machine has no ethernet port so I use a USB to ethernet converter which auto connects and works on other puppies.

I am not sure where I should look for clues as to what the problem is. I will play with it for a bit and maybe something will come to me.

I will test Wheezy on my other computers later.

Edit - Even once it is configured, if I right-click on the network icon in the tray it does strange things. The menu flashes up and then the DHCP progress bar from Network Wizard and the connection is lost again. Menu stays on screen if I hold down the right-click mouse button.

Also, boot manager sfs loader does not want to load the devx. Load-on-the-fly seems to have worked though.

libavcodec (from ffmpeg) headers and DEV libs not included?

Re: networking autoconnect

Posted: Thu 30 Aug 2012, 15:00
by rerwin
majorfoo via PM wrote:As previously stated, most puppies i try out auto connect to internet on bootup from live cd. Again most, not all.
Thanks, majorfoo, for the diag file. I see you have 2 ethernet cards but no wireless.

pupscan listing:
  • DESCRIPTION: Ethernet controller: ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100
    VENDOR: 1317 DEVICE: 0985
    KERNEL MODULE: tulip

    DESCRIPTION: Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller
    VENDOR: 8086 DEVICE: 1050
    KERNEL MODULE: e100
ifconfig shows no ethernet connections.

bootsysinit.log:
  • cheching if interface eth0 is alive...
    . . .
    interface eth0 does not seem to be plugged in... skipping
    configuring network interface eth1
    interface eth1 has not been configured... skipping
System message log:
  • Aug 30 08:28:11 puppypc5946 user.warn kernel: [ 0.122824] pci 0000:01:08.0: Firmware left e100 interrupts enabled; disabling
    . . .
    Aug 30 08:28:11 puppypc5946 user.info kernel: [ 78.743035] e100: Intel(R) PRO/100 Network Driver, 3.5.24-k2-NAPI
    Aug 30 08:28:11 puppypc5946 user.info kernel: [ 78.743041] e100: Copyright(c) 1999-2006 Intel Corporation
    Aug 30 08:28:11 puppypc5946 user.info kernel: [ 78.793791] e100 0000:01:08.0: eth0: addr 0xfe5ff000, irq 9, MAC addr 00:0f:fe:30:99:f8
    . . .
    Aug 30 08:28:11 puppypc5946 user.info kernel: [ 79.701093] tulip: Linux Tulip driver version 1.1.15-NAPI (Feb 27, 2007)
    Aug 30 08:28:11 puppypc5946 user.info kernel: [ 79.701743] tulip: tulip_init_one: Enabled WOL support for AN983B
    Aug 30 08:28:11 puppypc5946 user.info kernel: [ 79.702081] tulip0: MII transceiver #1 config 1000 status 786d advertising 05e1
    Aug 30 08:28:11 puppypc5946 user.info kernel: [ 79.714887] net eth1: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at MMIO 0xfe5efc00, 00:1e:e5:d8:a8:37, IRQ 17
    Aug 30 08:28:11 puppypc5946 user.debug kernel: [ 79.984742] tulip 0000:01:02.0: eth1: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed (CSR5 0xfc06c012 CSR6 0xff970111)
    Aug 30 08:28:11 puppypc5946 user.debug kernel: [ 80.175822] tulip 0000:01:02.0: eth1: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed (CSR5 0xfc06c012 CSR6 0xff970111)
preference.log:
  • 17:28:05.313 8023 tulip - Retained (tulip:dmfe)
This tells me that tulip (eth1) was delayed by 1 second before loading. Otherwise, the new module loader script did nothing special. So, the e100 (eth0) device was unaffected by my fix/experiment. I hope the above message log will be meaningful to someone.
Richard

Posted: Thu 30 Aug 2012, 17:00
by pemasu
Thanks rerwin. No insight so far. Could the new udev from debian give hiccups...Can it be something in the kernel...I really dont know. I might test with Barry`s older udev also. Hit and run research. I hate it but I dont have explanation yet.
I am bit busy next 4-5 days. There is again big canoe race and I will be on the safe boat saturday and sunday whole day and will be exhausted after that. Then I have again some projects which takes my time. But I will read murga-forum now...and then....then I should have more time again.

Barry Kauler`s latest woof version of PPM is badly broken. It has his new dependency checking mechanish which causes hanging. If you have whole day time to install one package, then you might call it working.
It didnt work for me at all and it seems 01micko has serious problems with it in latest Precise Puppies. I had to use older version in this Dpup Wheezy version. I am sure Barry has noticed the feedback already.

Posted: Thu 30 Aug 2012, 18:04
by irishrm
pemasu:

Did a usb install.
No issue with internet connection. Found my wl driver and connected no problem.
No issue with mplayer working perfectly.

Issues:
It failed to save changes to save file
On shutdown:
It tells me it is saving changes.
On bootup:
Each time I boot it tells me that next boot will be faster so any icons I have put on the desktop disappear.

No response to desktop icons write,calc,email, chat and no menu entry either.
No response to desktop icon play but works from menu.

Keep up the good work.
irishrm.

cups

Posted: Thu 30 Aug 2012, 18:22
by L18L
Hi pemasu,
trying to use my langpack here which has support for cups 1.3.1, 1.4.8 and 1.5.4 (downloaded from cups)
But here is
# cups-config --version
1.5.3
#
and cups is english only.
http://www.cups.org/software.php does NOT have 1.5.3
I am a bit helpless now :cry: