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Posted: **Fri 24 Jun 2011, 21:32**

myke wrote:At boot-up, since have 12 partitions, really don't feel like going through the e2fsk routine every time I boot up. Where can I mod this to only run e2fsk every 20 times, say?

pdev1 can be used to narrow down to the boot partition e.g.,

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kernel /lhp511/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd pdev1=sda8 psubdir=lhp511 pfix=fsck

If it isn't working, please gzip and attach your menu.lst or similar config, as well as /initrd/tmp/check-ext-fs.log. I am using an ext4 partition for my all of my frugal installs and the fsck is very fast; I hardly even notice it.

If you are booting from the LiveCD w/o typing in options, IIRC fsck doesn't run at all unless the host partition or save file fails to mount.

The other problem experiencing is with Firefox. Initially it was fast and responsive. Now it is has become slow and sluggish.

First clear your cache, (Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Network->Clear now.) Then restart X and FF to see whether or not it helps.

Then try

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firefox-spot --safe-mode

in a terminal. If that works fine, close FF, restart normally and disable the extensions (Tools->Add-ons) one-by-one to find the offender. I'm currently using Ad-Block Plus and FireFTP in 4.01 with no problems, except that the silly updater offers to update to 5.0... and fails to download it.

FF 5.0 was released this week and I will try it out soon and hopefully make a Pet available.
-TazOC

Posted: **Fri 24 Jun 2011, 23:56**

Tazoc,
Thanks, your suggestions worked.

myke

Posted: **Mon 27 Jun 2011, 20:47**

The following updates for Lighthouse 64 5.11 are now available via Lighthouse Update:

[Core] L64_Update-511Au1.pet This will update Lighthouse 64 5.11 A to 5.11 Au1. I updated frugal-symlink to 0.7 over the weekend, fixing a couple of minor bugs. If you installed this update via direct download prior to June 25, suggest to use Lighthouse Update to reinstall the latest one.
[Internet] Firefox-5.0-x86_64.pet Replaces Firefox 4.01 with 5.0, from Mozilla binaries
[Multimedia] VLC-1.1.10-x86_64.pet (Thanks to Billtoo for compiling this.)
[Network] Samba-3.5.6-x86_64.pet (Thanks to Kirk and gcmartin)
[System] VBoxInstaller-x86_64-L2.pet VirtualBox installer/updater. Wizard downloads and installs the latest VirtualBox, as well as Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.0.8-71778. Needs Devx-L64_511.sfs and 175M free space. (Thanks to JamesBond)

These 2 Pets are included in L64_Update-511Au1, and are available separately for other Pups:

sys-info+report-video 0.5.pet
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 454#455454
report-video-glx-0.4.pet
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 263#538263

-TazOC

Posted: **Wed 29 Jun 2011, 19:16**

After compiling the latest NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-275.09.07 for my NV 8400 GS card, Glxgears gives an error message.

bash-4.1# glxgears
glxgears: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
<root> ~
bash-4.1#

I did not run it prior to installation of the new driver, so don't know if it worked prior to driver installation.

The new NVIDIA driver is working fine, see image-2.

Your LHP64 is working great.

Thanks,
Jim

Posted: **Thu 30 Jun 2011, 07:56**

been testing this on two of my computers a nvidia laptop and my old htpc with a ATI card. Awesome speed and the overall feel is good.

How is it going with plans on KDE 4 ? and is there chanses for compiz in the future ?

best regards

Einar

Posted: **Fri 01 Jul 2011, 00:11**

Hi Jim,
ATI's Catalyst has its own gears demo, fgl_glxgears, not sure about NVIDIA. You might try

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/usr/X11R7/bin/glxgears

in a terminal, or

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find /usr -name *gears

to locate the best one. You can also try the 32-bit version:

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start32 /usr/bin/32/glxgears

Hi Einar,
Yes I'm working on a new 64-bit KDE SFS, in fact KDE 4.6.5 is due for release in a few days.
[Edit: that is the source code, and hopefully compiled soon thereafter. I usually use binaries from Alien's 'ktown' repository, which are often the very latest available.]

I'm also working toward C-F but I need to update the glibc, gcc, gtk and other core libs for some compatibility with the major distro repos out there. And Kirk's new kernel and Xorg combination is enticing, so lots of new adventures on the horizon.

Posted: **Fri 01 Jul 2011, 01:41**

I noticed that the automatic update notifier launcher in /Startup is missing, so it may be necessary to select 'get_updates' (see the desktop Update icon) to view the packages I uploaded this week. That will be fixed in the next release, and I don't anticipate any further updates between now and then; however you can restore the notifier by pasting this in a terminal:

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ln -snf /usr/sbin/lhp-update-notifier /root/Startup/lhp-update-notifier

-TazOC

Posted: **Fri 01 Jul 2011, 06:28**

tazoc wrote:Hi Einar,
Yes I'm working on a new 64-bit KDE SFS, in fact KDE 4.6.5 is due for release in a few days. I'm also working toward C-F but I need to update the glibc, gcc, gtk and other core libs for some compatibility with the major distro repos out there. And Kirk's new kernel and Xorg combination is enticing, so lots of new adventures on the horizon.

Thanks for quick feedback, and keep up the good work

im lookin forward for this release

best regards

Einar

Posted: **Fri 08 Jul 2011, 00:20**

Wow interesting how does this differ from the standard lhp.

as lhp is build on spup. i do wonder what fatdog is built on i dont as yet remember myself.

I might try this out sometime. does it have the same features as lhp. lhp is a great os and i do like it. just while i am building my puplet i dont use much.

Posted: **Sat 09 Jul 2011, 17:37**

hmm... this looks promising...
WARNING MASSIVE FREAKING PICTURE!!!!
- PNG image data, 7680 x 1080, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced

Posted: **Sat 09 Jul 2011, 17:51**

Barburo wrote:Impressions: I tried my usual subjective test - how fast does FF4 come up and load my Gmail? Very swiftly. At least as fast if not faster than fatdog64.
I tried the benchmarks and watched to CPU monitors in Gkrellmon. CPUZlib uses both processors (a very good comparison result) but the other tests seem to use only one processor, so no amazing gains there.

I can live without C-F and LXDE (which I use in 503G because it supports C-F) but Openbox is really all you need. Nice you've added icons on the shutdown menu to make it multi-purpose.

I'm running out of superlatives Taz. I'll continue testing as we go on.
Congratulations on a great "alpha".
B.

Thank you, glad to hear that. Yes, except for Zlib, the HardInfo benchmarks don't seem to use multi-core processing. Maybe we should see if updating/re-compiling HardInfo makes any difference.
Regards,
TazOC

Posted: **Sat 09 Jul 2011, 18:04**

Q5sys wrote:hmm... this looks promising...
WARNING MASSIVE FREAKING PICTURE!!!!
- PNG image data, 7680 x 1080, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced

Hey mate, what's up?

When I click on the image the view is just 1,024px × 144px, so can't really see much except that you've got your wide-screen setup going...

Maybe gzip and attach the hi-res version to a post...
-TazOC

Posted: **Sat 09 Jul 2011, 18:09**

tazoc wrote:
Q5sys wrote:hmm... this looks promising...
WARNING MASSIVE FREAKING PICTURE!!!!
- PNG image data, 7680 x 1080, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced
Hey mate, what's up? When I click on the image the view is just 1,024px × 144px, so can't really see much except that you've got your wide-screen setup going... Maybe gzip and attach the hi-res version to a post...
-TazOC

http://i.imgur.com/slnGm.jpg
should be the direct link. some browsers auto minimize to fit the screen (like opera) usually clicking the image maxamizes it.

attached is a slightly minimized version.. something like 6,298 x 886 pixels
im posting here within my opensuse install so I can try and reserach some stuff.

Posted: **Sat 09 Jul 2011, 21:35**

Hi TazOC,

Frugal installation on wife's Dell Dimension E510 on an NTFS partition.

Everything appears to work fine with one glaring exception. Frisbee does not recognize my Wifi network, so no internet access. It does not see the Belkin Wireless USB Adapter N300. As you can see below there are a number of WPA and WEP connections available. This is posted from Fatdog 64-520 b3 from the Dell. Using LHP64-511, this same screen shows no available connections.

Everything is working fine on my main system with a hard wired LAN connection.

Regards,
Jim

Posted: **Sun 10 Jul 2011, 17:46**

Hi tazoc, I haven't done thorough testing on this, but here's my initial reaction:

Currently running LHP64 on a P4-3.0ghz with 512MB of RAM. Did a manual frugal install with my usual option of "pfix=fsck". I no longer need to add "nomodeset pfix=vesa,ram", yay!

Bootup has changed a lot over previous versions, mostly for the better...straight to graphical desktop is good, but I would have liked the option not to install the wine.sfs by default because I don't use it so often.

A lot of changes have been made to the look. Overall, a better choice of apps (IMO) than from previous releases. Love the new wallpaper and the custom look of PupShutdown.

Some whining from me:
- Launched Firefox 4.0.1... It seemed to be slower than usual, so I disabled the custom firefox theme which sped things up a bit. Have you tried Firefox 5 or Firefox 7? Both are faster. EDIT Oops; I just read one of your previous posts about FF5 - my bad.
- GKrellM is an interesting change, but it was blocking the drive icons. I had to drag it over to the top-right corner of the screen..easy fix
- On the bottom-right corner, only the Xlock desktop icon is showing. I don't believe you left out the trash and pupzip desktop icons out on purpose. (This monitor is old and only displays 1024x768 at max resolution.)
- at first I thought, why in the world did you replace Geany for the inferior Leafpad? , but then I noticed that Geany was moved to the "Utility-->Development menu.
- I much prefer to have GNOME-mplayer over Xine. When I click on a video (avi, mp4 and flv formats), Xine gives me an error message and won't play
- I have gotten very use to the Firewallstate Tray Applet and it feels strange for me to be without it.
- I'd like to suggest adding ScOttman's Default-Programs-Chooser, which is very useful, especially for newbies.
- Also, I know that you have an option to load SFS files at bootup, but it would still be handy to have Shinobar's SFS-Load in your puplet. Pemasu has made a patched-up version here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=42636

Have you read the exciting news of Iguleder's experiment on a 32-bit/64-bit hybrid? http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 3&start=75. It sounds very promising.

My conclusion,
Yes LHP64 is still alpha (maybe beta) quality, but it looks like you have another winner on your hands and the final release looks like it's going to be better than your previous versions. Using LHP 5.03 did give me some good ideas for my own puplet...I'm not trying to be a biter, but when someone has a useful app or idea...I use it.
I'm sure you get this a lot, but thank you tazoc for all of your hard work and continued efforts. LHP does indeed make the puppy linux community a brighter place.

Posted: **Mon 11 Jul 2011, 06:13**

Hi Taz, some feedback:

I set up two versions of LHP64 - one on an ext4 partition with an ext4 save file and one on an ext3 partition with ext3 save file.
Subjectively not much difference so I decided to do a browser comparison using Peacekeeper.
Firstly Chromium got the best rating in both tests followed by Opera with Firefox a little behind (see images). I used Firefox4 in the ext3 test but it shouldn't be too dissimilar to the performance for Firefox5.
Secondly all of the browsers seem to perform better in Ext3 than ext4. I would have thought it would be the other way around. Comments anybody?

X lock seems a bit flakey. The configuration module gets confused about which screensaver is being previewed and it's difficult to change the default. Also "solitare" should be "solitaire". (But I see someone else programmed it).

Any plans to include gview? (same as in LHP 503).

I cannot reduce the size of the text used in Firefox 5 for tabs etc. It is so big the default pop-up messages hide some of the options.

B.

Posted: **Tue 12 Jul 2011, 04:06**

Jim1911 wrote:Hi TazOC,

Frugal installation on wife's Dell Dimension E510 on an NTFS partition.

Everything appears to work fine with one glaring exception. Frisbee does not recognize my Wifi network, so no internet access. It does not see the Belkin Wireless USB Adapter N300. As you can see below there are a number of WPA and WEP connections available. This is posted from Fatdog 64-520 b3 from the Dell. Using LHP64-511, this same screen shows no available connections.

Everything is working fine on my main system with a hard wired LAN connection.

Regards,
Jim

Hi Jim,
I've had grief with USB adapters before.

Connecting via an integrated / PCMCIA / PCI wireless adapter is generally preferred. However, it could be that the earlier kernel in L64 Alpha 1 and Fatdog 64-511 may not detect the Wireless N adapter as reliably as the new kernel and firmware in Fatdog 64-520. Might be interesting to see what kernel module is being used successfully in Fatdog 520 by opening Hardinfo->Kernel Modules and looking for 'wireless' in the description.
-TazOC

Posted: **Wed 13 Jul 2011, 02:00**

tazoc wrote:Hi Jim,
I've had grief with USB adapters before. Connecting via an integrated / PCMCIA / PCI wireless adapter is generally preferred. However, it could be that the earlier kernel in L64 Alpha 1 and Fatdog 64-511 may not detect the Wireless N adapter as reliably as the new kernel and firmware in Fatdog 64-520. Might be interesting to see what kernel module is being used successfully in Fatdog 520 by opening Hardinfo->Kernel Modules and looking for 'wireless' in the description.
-TazOC

Requested info from Fatdog 520.

Cheers,
Jim

Posted: **Wed 13 Jul 2011, 22:13**

Hi Tazoc,

Thanks for building on the solid work of kirk and jamesbond. While I have just begun using Lighthouse 64, it doesn't seem very Alpha to me. So far everything has worked better than I could have hoped.
Initially, in an effort to avoid problems I followed the Grub instructions on page 1 which used vesa graphics. They worked, but only provided an 1154 x 8-hundred something pixel desktop. Frisbee had me on the web in a minute or 2. But clicking Xorg merely restarted X. So, I booted into Lupu 525, moved the SaveFile into a 2nd level folder called "protect", modified Grub to remove the specification of Vesa --I left nomodeset, not sure I need it-- and rebooted, obtaining a 1600x900 pixel desktop.
Note, my graphis is Ati Radeon 3100.
Although I can appreciate the benefits of running firefox as spot, there are times when that protection isn't needed and inconvenient. As I had firefox 5 for 64-bit already installed on mnt/home, I created a desktop link to it. It ran well, enabled me to import bookmarks, upgraded itself to version 6, and I was pleasantly surprised by its wealth of addons.
It goes without saying that the system flies.

Great work.

mikesLr

Edit: I've since removed Grub argument nomodeset as unnecessary.

Posted: **Wed 13 Jul 2011, 23:56**

Hi again,

Continuing to explore. I wanted to add mtpaintsnapshot to the tray. I think I read that Lighthouse 64 uses OpenBox by default, and know that I can switch to JWM. I found the link to configure JWM's tray. But I've gotten to like OpenBox. In the OpenBox submenu, there's a link to restart LX Panel. But I can't find the link to configure LX Panel. It's usually somewhere on or from the desktop menu. Did I miss it? My wife says my powers of observation leave much to be desired.
Please advise.

mikesLr

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fsck, Firefox

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Lighthouse Updates 2011.06.27

awesome

gears demo; KDE, etc

update notifier is missing in 511 A

Re: gears demo; KDE, etc

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my two cents

ext3 vs ext4

Thanks & Graphics with Ati Radeon

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