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Posted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 21:07
by edoc
Which PET or SFS of OpenOffice is recommended for use with Insidious, please?

I started to load the openoffice-3.2.1.9502_en.US.pet but the pop-up warned about installing to /mnt/home

BTW: That error message includes a misspelled word.

Posted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 22:52
by sneekylinux
have a video for you on the tube guys....

Posted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 23:09
by 01micko
Jim1911 wrote: Problems with added programs:
1. One of my favorite addons, Wbar, will not start. 01micko's fine Wbar-setup appears to function perfectly except for starting Wbar.
2. Pwidgets only partially works, however that's also a problem with luci-240.

Cheers,
Jim
hmmmm... wbar is not one size fits all, I bet a program is missing/changed. I may have to make a simpler version with apps we know will be in puppy.

As for pwidgets I can't reproduce your problems Jim.. I will still investigate.

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I also had Billtoo's kernel source problem trying to compile nvidia-173.XX.XX.. maybe just a symlink.

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Xfce gtk themes don't play nice sometimes. It's a known issue in luci

Cheers

Posted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 23:11
by Jim1911
edoc wrote:Which PET or SFS of OpenOffice is recommended for use with Insidious, please?

I started to load the openoffice-3.2.1.9502_en.US.pet but the pop-up warned about installing to /mnt/home

BTW: That error message includes a misspelled word.
Try LibreOffice, OpenOffice.org's spinoff. It works fine on incidious.

Posted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 23:28
by Jim1911
01micko wrote:
Jim1911 wrote: Problems with added programs:
1. One of my favorite addons, Wbar, will not start. 01micko's fine Wbar-setup appears to function perfectly except for starting Wbar.
2. Pwidgets only partially works, however that's also a problem with luci-240.

Cheers,
Jim
hmmmm... wbar is not one size fits all, I bet a program is missing/changed. I may have to make a simpler version with apps we know will be in puppy.

As for pwidgets I can't reproduce your problems Jim.. I will still investigate.

__________________________________

I also had Billtoo's kernel source problem trying to compile nvidia-173.XX.XX.. maybe just a symlink.

__________________________________

Xfce gtk themes don't play nice sometimes. It's a known issue in luci

Cheers
Why didn't I think of that? :oops: Quickpet is the culprit. Wbar starts fine with that removed.

Apparently, I have a hardware conflict. I've tried Pwidgets as the only added program so there isn't a program conflict. Others have reported no problem with pwidgets.

Thanks,
Jim

Posted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 23:30
by tubeguy
sneekylinux wrote:have a video for you on the tube guys....
Nice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSFJpzyOVcI

Re: Thanks!

Posted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 23:35
by 01micko
Guess what... pupRadio works! Weird eh? Teh Insidious Puppeh is looking the goods!

Cheers

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 08:30
by Iguleder
sneekylinux wrote:have a video for you on the tube guys....
Nice review, thanks :)

I added PupRadio back, it fixed itself magically, just like the GNOME-MPlayer fullscreen bug :lol:

I think I'll build a 002 and write a full guide for building it during the process. I found a serious bug in my deb2ppm script, which screws up dependencies in PPM a 'lil bit.

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 09:21
by aragon
iguleder,

just to let you know about an xlock bug that happens in insi (but i think it's woof):
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 400#472400

aragon

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 10:03
by Iguleder
Hey guys, here's the solution to the package lists problem. I uploaded it only for passionate testers :lol:

Before you run this one, do

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rm /root/.packages/Packages-*
Then restart X or run /root/Startup/download_package_lists. It will download a small xz-compressed tar archive with the package lists that came with 001. Around 1 MB in size ... it's great.

EDIT: the 1.2 MB size is because of the xz compression. In the Insidious ISO, I'm pretty sure they take way more.

I want 002 to have this thing instead of the package lists, they're big. I could make this script download Debian package lists and process them, but that would require a fast PC with Bash code or the devx if I want to use my deb2ppm script (for Perl).

EDIT: had a crazy idea ... what if I wrote a script that compares two SFSs, then takes all the extra files from the second one, puts them in a directory and writes a pinstall.sh that removes all files that don't exist in it ... this could be sort of a primitive updating mechanism - I could turn this into a PET and make this dialog also download and install so-called "updates".

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 10:45
by Iguleder
Another idea. I also replied in Barry's blog with this one.

I could make all the special stuff in Insidious much more generic with a homepage field in DISTRO_SPECS.

For example, the package list could be downloaded from:

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$DISTRO_REPOSITORY/$DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX-$DISTRO_VERSION/Packages.tar.gz
In the case of Insidious Puppy 001:

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http://brainwavedesigncentral.net/dima/inpu-001/Packages.tar.gz
In the case of Lucid Puppy 5.2:

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http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/lupu-520/Packages.tar.gz
In the case of Wary 098:

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http://www.bkhome.org/wary-098/Packages.tar.gz
The distro homepage variable could be used for many other things, the possibilties are endless.

This opens the door to smaller puppies that download non-crucial parts such as documentation and locales if the user wants to. Of course, this could be done through PPM, but what if it's a puplet or a Puppy that doesn't have its own repository? That's where this trick shines :P

This could be used for "service packs", Quickpet and so many other uses ... I think it's a great idea.

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 11:58
by abushcrafter
What about this for a home page: http://puppy.b0x.me/psearch.html

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 12:02
by Iguleder
What about this as /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser?

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#!/bin/busybox ash

if [ ! -d /root/.mozilla ]; then

  exec /usr/bin/iceape "http://puppy.b0x.me/psearch.html $@"

else

   exec /usr/bin/iceape "$@"

fi
Should make the browser open on this page when you first start it ... well, theoretically. Not sure if it really works.

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 12:07
by tubeguy
abushcrafter wrote:What about this for a home page: http://puppy.b0x.me/psearch.html
Love it, bookmarked. Nice job.

Insidious Puppy 001

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 12:30
by Billtoo
I found this wallpaper, looks kind of nerdy.

Fresh install of sid pup on acer revo, working good so far.

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 12:49
by Iguleder
Good news, more stuff for 002:
- New Iceape template with a modified profile - Puppy links in the toolbar, some default settings, a homepage and no Modern theme (1 MB, too much)
- /usr/bin/nicoedit is now a link to /usr/bin/leafpad, for backwards-compatibility (as I did with xarchive and File-Roller)
- New udev 164, compiled from the Debian sources

Stuff already in:
- pupRadio
- The package lists downloader
- Some missing packages (3 if I remember right)

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 13:58
by 01micko
TEH Iguledereh

Seems to be a woof problem with zzz. In quirky-1.4 and Insidious with my 3G modem I have to 'modprobe option' to get the thing loaded. Luci is ok, but things are a little different there :) . NOTE: muggins had the same issue in quirky, see teh blog!

Also having video trouble on this old box (a radeon 9200pro card, not my main box which has nvidia) with mplayer but NOT gnome-mplayer .. yes more weirdness, been that kind of day!

Funny thing.. with luci modem is ok and sound no good, with insidious and quirky it's the other way, sound ok, 3G modem no good

Cheerio

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 15:06
by Béèm
edoc wrote:Which PET or SFS of OpenOffice is recommended for use with Insidious, please?

I started to load the openoffice-3.2.1.9502_en.US.pet but the pop-up warned about installing to /mnt/home

BTW: That error message includes a misspelled word.
Always report type of install.
You should know that since Aug 2005.

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 15:14
by edoc
My sig has said FRUGAL for years, I didn't notice that the last time I edited it the word had been dropped. It is there again.

Posted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 17:07
by abushcrafter
tubeguy wrote:
abushcrafter wrote:What about this for a home page: http://puppy.b0x.me/psearch.html
Love it, bookmarked. Nice job.
It's not mine. I found out about it by a thread from the author on the forums which I can't find in my history.