Karmic Puppy uPup 4.58 w/ GLX/DRI - Latest Woof FEB 16

[ckteo172]

playdayz,

I'm having slow screen redraw / jerky video playback after using xrandr to rotate the screen by 90 degree on a Intel 945GM Platform. I'm using VLC 0.9.2 to do the video playback.

Any idea what can be done to improve the situation?

Attached is the xorg log file.

Thanks

[oui]

Hi

this seems to be a great Puppy but the screen become each new start dark. actually it is completely black : not possible to read ONE letter on the screen . my wife did say to me "you did found the best puppy for you, it is wunderfull... "

can you help me not to go to early to bed

bye

oui
ACER Laptop emachine with AMD64

[playdayz]

2. Printer Setup will not work. the Cups Printer Manager opens the CUPS 1.4.1 screen, however when Printers Menu is selected it states "500 Internal Server Error".
Quote:
5) Cups. Does it work? If it does not, then does it help to download and install this cups pet ->
http://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributi ... 0-1-uj.pet

Sorry, installing the pet above does not help, browser opens with a blank screen. Other suggestions?

Cheers,
Jim

Yes, Jim, we yell for help!!! I believe ttuuxxx has worked on cups in some other versions and may have an answer--I asked him. And maybe someone else will see the solution.

Also Jim, when you edited the xorg.conf entry to read "nv," was it "nouveau that you changed it *from*? Including me that is at least 3 or 4 people who have had to change from "nouveau" to "nv" and so I am considering leaving out the "nouveau" driver--at least as a test. I'll try that in the next build from Woof 0107.

[Jim1911]

Also Jim, when you edited the xorg.conf entry to read "nv," was it "nouveau that you changed it *from*? Including me that is at least 3 or 4 people who have had to change from "nouveau" to "nv" and so I am considering leaving out the "nouveau" driver--at least as a test. I'll try that in the next build from Woof 0107.

That's correct. My card is a BFG NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS 512MB which can properly use the latest drivers, so nouveau is the problem in my situation. I've tried the NVIDIA-185.18.36-k2.6.30.5-1.pet which has the proper driver, but had no success with it. Of course, "nv" doesn't support 3d so that's not the best solution.

I meant to mention that a pupsave created by Barry's upup432 was successfully updated. Cups didn't work in that version either.

On cups, with the next build, you may want to try the earlier cups-1.3.10-1 instead of 1.4.1. The problem could be that cups-1.3.10-1-uj.pet just doesn't properly install over the newer version.

Thanks for sticking with upup,
Jim

[James C]

Changed the optical drive and now have a frugal install of 453 on my test box, no real problems to speak of yet.

I really dislike those intermittent hardware problems though.....

[cinclus_cinclus]

(upup454)
I installed Sox first and then tried installing audacity.

But some libraries are missing:

File /usr/bin/jack_evmon has these missing library libjack.so.0 libiconv.so.2 libjack.so.O

Please, how can I get these?

[Jim1911]

Tried 454, works well, except for Cups. Installing cups-1.3.10-1-uj doesn't help. My nvidia card works OK with this.

I hope that you will return to your previous practice of trying Barry's latest since he has updated Xorg server, nv along with a few other fixes (some due to improvements that you've made and posted).

Thanks,
Jim

[playdayz]

hey jim1911, After about 20 hours this weekend, I have a version of Cups 1.4.1 that seems to be working, at least working for me. The details are in the first message in this thread. Did you try adding cups 1.3.10-uj with Puppy Package Manager and this latest 4.54? I thought that would do more than a blank page--but Cups 1.4.1 is the one I really want because that is the one that comes with ubuntu karmic.

Was the nouveau driver working for you? I can provide it as a pet. The problem appeared to be that xorgwizard was choosing nouveau for *all* nvidia cards and it wasn't working with all of them. I had thought that nv/nouveau was like radeon/radeonhd, for older/newer cards. I also thought that to get hardware accellerated 3d you had to use the proprietary driver; for ati that is the fglrx driver that I had to compile myself using SitHeelSpeak's gcc 4.4.1 devx enhancement (discussed in the first message). Radeon and Radeonhd are both open source xorg drivers, as with nv and nouveau I am pretty sure.)

Yes, I will keep up with Barry's releases of Woof, but I will not post a new one until it is a stable as 4.54. What happened is that Barry made some changes to Woof (for Quirky I think) that caused problems for uPup (for instance, not installing properly to a full hard disk install). However, 4.54 includes all the changes that we have discovered. I plan to make and post a list of the tests to put a new uPup through before I post it.

[playdayz]

Hello Friends of uPup.

The current version of uPup is 4.54. The big news is that Cups 1.4.1 is working, at least for me. Right now, you have to add cups as a pet and then do a little bit in the terminal window, but I was so happy when it printed a test page for me Details are in the first message of the thread.

4.54 also fixes the problem with a full install to a hard disk.

The nouveau driver is removed which should solve problems for some nvidia owners. If you need the nouveau driver I will post it in the first message in the thread. Please remember the Xvesa option in xorgwizard if you are getting a black screen!

Otherwise 4.54 has everything we have discovered. I believe the wireless is working OK, along with browsers, flash, and multimedia--now with Cups uPup is becoming truly usable. Thank you for your contributions.

[James C]

I just did a fresh full install of 454 on my test P3.Everything appears to be working pretty smoothly so far.

I've installed Midori (Ubuntu package), Firefox 3.5.6. Geany, Htop, and a couple of small card games. Everything installed and is working fine, with the exception of some missing menu icons (fixed) and changing Geany's menu category from Utility to Text Editor.Made Geany my default text editor too, since I prefer it over Nicoedit.

On to some further testing......

[Jim1911]

Neither Cups 1.4.1 or installing cups 1.3.10-uj with Puppy Package Manager works for me.

The removal of the nouveau driver helped since I no longer have to manually edit to get the nv driver.

Except for cups, it's working great and I've also been able to upgrade save files created by upup432.

Thanks,
Jim

[rhadon]

Hi,

I can say the same like Jim:

Neither Cups 1.4.1 or installing cups 1.3.10-uj with Puppy Package Manager works for me.
Except for cups, it's working great and I've also been able to upgrade save files created by upup432.

With1.4.1 I always get the message "500 internal server error", with 1.3.10 I can install my HP-Photosmart but when I try to print I get "unsupported format 'application/postscript'". No matter of using 4.32 or 4.54, pfix=ram or upgraded pupsave file.

The rest works fine. Thanks

~ Rolf

[playdayz]

hi rhadon and jim1911, Thank you much for the feedback. Cups is a monster. I *think* I have beaten the 500 Internal server error with the latest, but i wasn't clear probably. One needs this current uPup 4.54--the one that is posted now--I changed it without changing the version number--bad policy I know but I was worried about running out of numbers. With this Upup version and then installing the cups-lrs.pet *and* doing the two things at the command prompt, I *think* cups will work. That was not good policy on my part--I should put it all together in a nice package and call it uPup 4.55, which I will do over the next couple of days.

@james C

Made Geany my default text editor too, since I prefer it over Nicoedit.

Me 2.

If you installed the current 4.54 version then you are in a position to try the cups-lrs pet. Don't bother it it is a bother--I will be putting it all together very soon now. thanks.

[mavrothal]

Hi playdayz,
I tried uPup454 as a (manual) full install on the OLPC's XO-1 laptop (with my kernel and initrd) and I failed to make the mouse to work. In uPup 451 all it needed was to change the option from "/dev/mouse" to "/dev/mouse0". No luck with uPup454. Any particular change between the two version regarding xorg and mouse?
Thx

[rhadon]

Hi playdayz,

now cups works fine for me
BTW: It is the first time that cups 1.4.1 works for me.

I downloaded 4.54 after you removed your message in the 1st post about not downloading now. Installing your cups.pet anyway was the missing puzzle.

Thank you

~ Rolf

[ecube]

Printer testing report

HP LaserJet P2014 (USB), Canon PIXMA iP4600 (USB),
CUPS 1.4.1: No printers found
CUPS 1.3.10: Printers found and set up. Test pages printed

OKIpage 14ex (LPT)
CUPS 1.4.1 No printers found
CUPS 1.3.10 Printer found and set up. Error: Unsupported format 'application/postscript'!

[ttuuxxx]

hi guys when you post your printer results could you also post what type of cable is being used, Cups in the past worked on usb and didn't work with parallel cables, then another time it didn't work with parallel cables and worked with usb. It helps with figuring out where to look and fix. Like ecube did above
ttuuxxx

[playdayz]

hi ecube, thanks for the results. I guess I knew it wasn't over Could you add this pet and see if it improves matters in 1.4.1? It contains the cups files plus some extra drivers. It might also be worth trying to have the printers connected when you boot, or conversely, to plug them in after you boot--just the obvious. I am assuming you are using 4.55. BTW, if you click the Printer tab does it show the PDF-Writer or Cups-PDF; it did for me. You are clicking Adding Printers and Classes and then Add Printer, rather than just going straight to the Printers tab? Also, you would need to stop and start cups after installing the pet, or reboot. To stop and start enter at a terminal, /etc/init.d/cups restart.

http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy400/cups-lrs.pet

The printer I was using to test was a USB Brother HL 2040.; I carried it around to three different computers. What cups was doing for me was finding that printer by name but it would also indicate that there were connections for lpt1 and serial printers. I have a parallel Epson that I will try asap.

[Jim1911]

upup455,clean frugal installation, works fine except for cups.

Cups finds my usb HP Photosmart C5280 and seems to work fine except for the last screen, see attached screenshot.

Your previous upups, did not recognize the printer at all so it has improved somewhat.

Barry's latest Quirky004 uses cups 1.3.11 which works fine.

Edit: Installed the following: gnome-games-Lite_2.26.1-i486uj with ppm, firefox-3.5.5-Flash10-SimpleMail-wysiwyg.pet(upgraded fine to 3.5.7), Thunderbird-3.0.pet which work fine. However, pwidgets-2.2.1.pet breaks the pup save by locking down all desktop icons.

Will continue testing.
Jim

[pemasu]

Upup 4.55 frugal fresh install. I Installed usb HP Laserjet 1020 with foo2xxx_r220909-0.0-i486.pet and your pet http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy400/cups-lrs.pet succesfully. Petget did not work automaticallywith cups-lrs.pet, it was associated to pupzip (default). I had to take open with option and find /usr/logal/petget/petget. There were still some weird behavior but it installed at last. After that installation went without incident with cups.

Firefox works also, after update also. Qcad installed from ubuntu repo.

Oh yes, Pwireless worked without problem with iwlagn driver. Posting from upup.