Lucid Puppy 5.2 Official Release JAN 5 2011

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James C · #441 Post by **James C** » Sun 02 Jan 2011, 23:05

01micko wrote:Hi James C

I sent your report to playdayz

For some weird reason things seem to go better if you boot off the cd. I'm trying to figure out why.

Thanks for testing.

Cheers

Just did another test upgrade as detailed in the above post.
Booted into Openbox. Set the timezone and numlock.X restarted. Switched to JWM.........all looks good except my Pwidgets....only the clock appears to work.All other preinstalled apps seem good.
Going to reinstall Icewm......that's where the trouble started last time, but I'll reboot first.

James C · #442 Post by **James C** » Sun 02 Jan 2011, 23:20

Rebooted. Uninstalled Pwidgets 2.2.7 and reinstalled same with Quickpet. Working correctly.
Reinstalled Icewm with the PPM. WM Switcher worked...in Icewm now.Guess I'd say the upgrade was successful this time.

#443 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 02 Jan 2011, 23:29

you know what would be a good addition, FFConvert, its only a 20kb pet, I would like to see the auto close after the converting removed, Its a pain. Hmmm maybe I'll do it if I get some time. Should be easy.
I downloaded this gtk game sources and compiled it, The overall size was large because it was using wav files and one default background music wav file was 5MB, so I went to creative commons music site and found a nice loop for the background music, It was a 216kb mp3 but when I converted it to wav by using FFConvert it was 1500kb, same with mhwavedit and then I went to this site http://audio.online-convert.com/convert-to-wav
I tried different settings and well it worked excellent, I managed to get down to 376kb WOW, what a savings. Should almost have a link in the multimedia section to it

http://ccmixter.org/files/Nurykabe/29614 and the sound file and the download for it is, http://ccmixter.org/content/Nurykabe/Nu ... seq_01.mp3
I'll post the game in a bit

ttuuxxx

#444 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Sun 02 Jan 2011, 23:52

Loosing connection
With the 516 and while in a holiday resort I still had the issue I reported before that the nameserver entry in /etc/resolv.conf just disappears, resulting in a browser message 'try again'
I had this quite often, but blamed first the connection.

Then I installed there Light House 500G. I didn't have the issue anymore.
So I went to 516 again and immediately I had that issue.

I didn't report it here yet as I saw new versions had come out.
So now I am in 519 and just got the issue.
The nameserver entry in /etc/resolv.conf had disappeared.
I pushed 'try again' for several times and all of a sudden I got the next screens of the site I was in.
I rechecked the nameserver entry in /etc/resolv.conf again and it was there again.

Once a connection is made, does the WiFi support try to reconnect?

In any case, I use Fluppy and now Wary 5.0 also and I don't have this issue and as stated with Light House 500G neither.

This is something which worries me.

bigpup · #445 Post by **bigpup** » Sun 02 Jan 2011, 23:54

From Barry's blog:

There are fundamental problems with upgrading a save-file, such as it breaks things.
It is the way that the /etc/rc.d/rc.update script works.
If you install an upgrade PET for a Puppy Linux core program, when the save-file is upgraded to a newer version of Puppy Linux, many of the files get reverted to the "official" ones -- result, that program may not work.
Example:
Had previously upgraded to the latest "Adobe Flash Player", upgraded the save file to a newer version of Puppy Linux, and "Adobe Flash Player" also got reverted to the "official" one.
These are not new problems, they have been there since Puppy started.

#446 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 00:14

I never really understood that when upgrading all of a sudden I got the message 'reverting to official ones' That didn't seem to me to be the concept of upgrading.
After having had some bad experiences, I didn't upgrade anymore.
'My core programs' are outside the save file and I work with a minimal save file of 32MB.

#447 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 01:14

Okay here's a game called SpaceZero, Its actually pretty good once you get to know how to play it, Just remember you need to press the "o" key to get the bottom menu where you type which function you want to do.
I made to 2 packages, one with the background CC music playing and one with background music removed. Just to save space I guess.
I also download the website, it was 340kb and opened it with Kompozer and made just for a users how-to-manual, the new size is 52kb extract, lol so you'll get the offline help in the game menu.
enjoy
ttuuxxx
http://spacezero.sourceforge.net/index.html

Jades · #448 Post by **Jades** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 02:35

Still testing upgrading the existing lupusave from the 5.1.1 LiveCD install on the Pentium D machine to 519. I did manage to get one attempt to work, other than the previously reported thing with having to reinstall PWidgets, but the last two attempts went wrong with the machine being unable to see either the onboard ethernet or the USB wireless adaptor. Will copy the backed-up 5.1.1 save and double-check it still works with 5.1.1 in case something's happened to it.

Test upgrade of a 5.1.1 frugal to Lupu-519 is still working on the K6 so far.

nooby · #449 Post by **nooby** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 03:22

Playdayz,

When I made use of the symlink from mnt/home back to root then it failed to boot despite having booted some 10 times in a row before I made that one? But that could be unrelated due to it failed to boot even when doing pfix=ram so it seems to be some other factor that kick in. Maybe the
RFKILL thing that makes Fluppy work each time is the major factor.

I fail to get why a lack of that one would be that devastating.

Would it be difficult to include the RFKILL into Lupu-520?

mikeslr · #450 Post by **mikeslr** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 03:31

Hi all,
Just started tinkering with 519. Downloaded ISO --not delta-- and unpacked required files into a new directory. Hand-modified Grub4Dos' Menu.lst (copied 517's entry, changing directories as appropriate, and pfix=fsck to pfix=ram) and rebooted into 519. No problem. All apps relating to setup worked well.
I like a clean desktop, so I usually remove all but about 5 desktop icons. I'm almost certain I did that before shutting down and creating a Savefile. Almost, because I didn't boot into 519 for a couple of hours. (I doubt it matters, but now that the pupsaveconfig pet exists, I installed it in order to have the Savefile in Ext3). At any rate, after changing the pfix=ram in Menu.lst to pfix=fsck, when I rebooted the desktop icons I had removed --I think(':oops:')-- were back. Has anyone else experienced this? If not, I'll assume my memory is playing tricks. Until next time. No biggy. Just thought you should know.

mikesLr

bigpup · #451 Post by **bigpup** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 03:49

Lupu 519
Frugal install
OpenBox WM

mikeslr wrote:when I rebooted the desktop icons I had removed --I think('')-- were back. Has anyone else experienced this? If not, I'll assume my memory is playing tricks.

I removed some desktop icons and moved some around. Rebooted. Desktop looked the way I had changed it. Worked for me.

ilanrab · #452 Post by **ilanrab** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 03:58

My relaxing lupu-518 experience is being
complemented by my current 519 experience.

To upgrade from 518 to 519:
- I downloaded the lupu-519 ISO file.
- Opened the ISO with that magical click on the icon.
- Copied the ISO file's vmlinuz, initrd.gz, and lupu-519.sfs files,
in order to replace my 16GB flash drive's vmlinuz, initrd.gz, and
lupu-518.sfs files (located on the 1st partition of the flash drive).
- I left the 2 puppy save files, located on the 2nd partition
of the flash drive, as is.

All subsequent boots and operations did not encounter any problems
with the Desktop, netbook, an laptop that I used. A perfect run.
Cheers,

smokey01 · #453 Post by **smokey01** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 05:19

Downloaded diff file
Applied the diff file to previous version lupu-518
md5sum matched
Made a new directory lupu-519
Copied lupu-519.sfs, vmlinuz and initrd.gz to the directory
Added a new entry to grub menu.lst
Rebooted and selected 519 from grub menu
Copied previous save file from 517 directory to 519 directory
Rebooted
Personal settings menu was displayed. I selected appropriate settings
Network menu came up. I closed it as wifi network was active.
Tried the browser, previously seamokey, menu to install displayed.
I checked menu and seamonkey was in place
I changed the default browser to seamonkey as it had not transferred
Clicked on browser, worked fine.

With the exception of personal settings and default browser everything else I have tried is working.

DaveS · #454 Post by **DaveS** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 06:43

Gnumeric help is really cool... thanks.

#455 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 07:40

DaveS wrote:Gnumeric help is really cool... thanks.

glad you like it Dave, it was like finding a needle in a hay stack

in the sources. I changed it to default browser so it will work with all browser.
ttuuxxx

01micko · #456 Post by **01micko** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 07:54

ttuuxxx wrote:
DaveS wrote:Gnumeric help is really cool... thanks.
glad you like it Dave, it was like finding a needle in a hay stack in the sources. I changed it to default browser so it will work with all browser.
ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx, you might be interested in SCLISS .. it may help you find that needle

Cheers

James C · #457 Post by **James C** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 07:59

Just did another frugal install of 519 on the P4 test box this time......no problems at all.Looks great.

ilanrab · #458 Post by **ilanrab** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 08:18

Pschedule, the cron GUI program, needs some looking after.
Using it with one task, seems ok (although the "#" proliferation,
after editing, is a bit irritating). However, when adding
several tasks, editing them becomes a real problem.

I found the problem exists in 519 and also in 511. Both systems
are running off Flash drives (may or may not make a difference).

01micko · #459 Post by **01micko** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 11:14

Ok...

I have 2 packages

The first is very important, it needs thorough testing asap

It is wmswitcher-0.16

I have completely revised the routine, I believe that it is the partially the cause for many upgrade problems. Well this can't help past upgrades but can help future upgrades. It should work more smoothly with kde-trinity too. (does for me). See the first attachment

The second is only a patch for kde and retrovol, no big deal unless you use kde-trinity.

Cheers, and feedback for the first one please.

einar · #460 Post by **einar** » Mon 03 Jan 2011, 11:28

ttuuxxx wrote:
radky wrote:ttuuxxx,
Thanks for emelfm2-0.7.4. This is one of my favorite file managers.

I wonder if you would consider making a pet of tuxcommander 0.6.70 for Lucid-5.2. The Debian and Ubuntu tuxcmd packages work great in Lucid-5.1, but return a runtime error in recent beta releases of Lucid-5.2.
Thanks.
Hi I spent a couple of hours on it, it uses freepascal compiler which is a very large pain on puppy, Its about 50 packages that you have to compile and install, I did the ones that were actually needed and then still had errors, so then I tried all ubuntu packages and the same, then I tried a precompiled bin and it worked just fine, So here's a link to it, just click on it and extract it then click on the bin. http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/tuxc ... 2?download
ttuuxxx

cant find the bin file after i extract it. what am i doing wrong ?

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