Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

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mawebb88 · #441 Post by **mawebb88** » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 14:30

ttuuxxx wrote:hi the eeepc fan controls are located at the bottom of this page
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 232#316232
ttuuxxx

Thanks. I guess they existed so will give them a whirl.
Rgds Mike

#442 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 14:43

tubby wrote:Ok i have now reinstalled and installed the grub pet, grub installed ok and distro booted ok.
As the universal installer makes you install or update an existing grub i had to go through the motions of installing grub to hda1 (my boot partition) and then delete it before installing the new grub pet.
Reinstalled grub and all was ok, the difference noticed was no puppy214r folder in the grub folder on hda1.

Well that's great news so I can just update the next iso and problem solved

Thanks for your help .
As long as it installs and boots up, I'm happy

ttuuxxx

mcewanw · #443 Post by **mcewanw** » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 15:00

tubby wrote:Ok i have now reinstalled and installed the grub pet, grub installed ok and distro booted ok.
As the universal installer makes you install or update an existing grub i had to go through the motions of installing grub to hda1 (my boot partition) and then delete it before installing the new grub pet.

tubby, you've made me dizzy... you've manage to embed the word "install" seven times in just these two sentences! :-)

tubby · #444 Post by **tubby** » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 15:05

Not so fast ttuuxxx, after shutdown and reboot into my other distro on hda1 it hung with errors.
I had to reboot into this distro on hda2 to look at the grub boot folder on hda1 and found that there was no vmlinux in the folder, so i had to manually copy vmlinux from the distro on hda1 and everything works ok.
So it would seem that as i deleted the original grub folder and installed a new one from this install it did not install a vmlinux. Maybe updating the original would have worked, but as i had a working grub deleting seemed the way to go.
However the new grub pet did the job as far as booting this distro goes.
@mcewanw Only two and one installed in this one, oh dear now it is two installed, oh dear now it is-----------

#445 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 15:06

I just spent well over 1hr trying to make a big pupsave file, lol What a pain, usually in 4 series I just make a 512kb and then it makes a /mnt/home/pupsaveresize.txt file, the if you open it, it will say
524288 <-- amount in kb, so usually I add a 18 in front, reboot and it builds a 18.5GB pupsave, but noooooooo, lol I tried, 18,10,8,7,5,4 and nothing, it would fail on reboot. So then I figured there must be a way to hack this another way, (keep in mind I forgot I already made a new pupsave that was going to be built on next bootup, ooops,lol)
So I went to /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown and looked at the numbers it provides on shutdown, and I deleted the last number and then added a '0' behind the next number, so when I ran it, it said 10GB, I figured that would be good enough

so I rebooted, it said something like 55GB because it must of multiplied the 512 from the storage increase or something, so after about 10mins waiting for this monster to be made, I had enough and did a reset with puppy pfix=ram and checked it out, it was at 38GB pupsave,lol thats my largest to date, lol
So I quickly deleted that mess and started over with a new /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown, this time I didn't delete and numbers and just added a '0' to the second one and rebooted, it asked what size and 10gb was listed, So I selected that and went with it. Then as it rebooted, I selected puppy pfix=ram again just to check the size. and it was ok. So I did a hard reset and rebooted and now finally Freememory applet says 9.7GB finally now I can get back to compiling gcc, lol
ttuuxxx

droope · #446 Post by **droope** » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 15:48

Hey, is there an iso arround??

Cheers,
Droope

#447 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 15:51

droope wrote:Hey, is there an iso arround??

Cheers,
Droope

yes sure this is the latest version
http://www.ttuuxxx.gposil.com/2.14X/iso/214X4.iso
any problems with the download and I'll get you the backup link

ttuuxxx

davesurrey · #448 Post by **davesurrey** » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 16:33

Just downloaded x4 and have the following comments.

As ever ttuuxxx I think this has all the makings of an excellent release but just trying to help to make it even better. I know that some of this I have reported previously but just want to include it all on one report to hopefully make it easier for you.

1. Live CD..Dillo shows as a blank screen at start up.

2. Using Puppy Universal Installer (PUI)... to make a frugal install....I have 2 HDDs and several partiitions. hdb is the HDD I use for Puppy. I have several frugal installs on hdb3 all under a subdirectory. The PUI asks and I tell it to install to hdb3. It gives me no chance to install to any subdirectory.

3. The PUI installs pup_214R.sfs, pup_save.3fs, and zdrv_214R.sfs onto hdb3 but there is no way of stopping it installing vmlinuz and initrd.gz anywhere other than hdb1/boot/puppy214R/

4. Firefox still has two "most visited" tabs.

5. jwm_config...returns error messages

6. MUT still returns a messy screen if you have volume labels. As shown in previous messages of mine.

7. MUT still doesn't show any partitions over hda9 (as previously reported)

8. Same for pmount.

9. Gparted shows problems with partitions over hda9 as reported before.

10. TkConvert now works...thanks

11. XrunCommandLine , which didn't work, has gone. No replacement.

12. Xmms audio player..which didn't work has gone...so now we are left with Beep media Player...which frankly is ugly and doesn't seem worthy of such a distro.

13. Now no email client. Every one has a personal idea of what should be in a distro but not having an email client does seem to be on the edge. May I suggest even a cut down version be included.

Hope that helps and you take it in the spirit it is written, ie to help improve the great work you have done so far.

Dave

droope · #449 Post by **droope** » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 16:34

Thank you very much ttuuxx, my friend will be glad

If there are any news, i'll let you know.

Cheers,
Droope

#450 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 16:58

davesurrey wrote:Just downloaded x4 and have the following comments.

6. MUT still returns a messy screen if you have volume labels. As shown in previous messages of mine. (I don't program tcl, but I'll ask jesse)

7. MUT still doesn't show any partitions over hda9 (as previously reported) (I don't program tcl, but I'll ask jesse)

Hi dave can you try this package and see if it fixes your 2 post above, if so then I'll theme it up and we'll take it from there

ttuuxxx

#451 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 18:51

Well just finished compiling gcc again, lol this time it went to 2074MB working directory, lol and the actual gcc was 209MB extracted or 64MB pet, I think I had too many languages, like java etc, I'll try again this time with less.
What an experience, lol, wish I knew what Barry usually puts in and takes out.
ttuuxxx

clarf · #452 Post by **clarf** » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 19:21

ttuuxxx wrote:But a few years back Simple Mail came out as a FF extension, it was ok but it was lacking in some features, I just tried the latest version, which is really nice and small and its had a lot of improvements, I was wondering if there were any regular Seamonkey mail users out there who might want to compare it?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... rsion-2.74
I wasn't going to add a email client but being so small and if its any good, I'll add it
ttuuxxx

Hi ttuuxxx, I tried Simple Mail and it seems good enough to be included in Puppy.

It lacks some features already included in Thunderbird or Seamonkey like: folder compression, complete Adress book (with search) or manage fisical folder for easy system backup. But I´m sure none casual user will miss them.

It has all basic mail features in a very small package. And a small mail client with a FireFox look it´s much better than none.

When I tested it, i didn´t notice any significant increase in memory use or bug with FireFox.

OlddogNewtricks · #453 Post by **OlddogNewtricks** » Mon 22 Jun 2009, 05:34

davesurrey wrote:
7. MUT still doesn't show any partitions over hda9 (as previously reported)

8. Same for pmount.

9. Gparted shows problems with partitions over hda9 as reported before.

I created 5 temporary ext2 partitions with gparted & as you can see they are all seen. although pmount hasn't put them in order. No problems with gparted either.

sikpuppy · #454 Post by **sikpuppy** » Mon 22 Jun 2009, 08:13

ttuuxxx wrote:Well just finished compiling gcc again, lol this time it went to 2074MB working directory, lol and the actual gcc was 209MB extracted or 64MB pet, I think I had too many languages, like java etc, I'll try again this time with less.
What an experience, lol, wish I knew what Barry usually puts in and takes out.
ttuuxxx

You might want to look at updating Glibc (to 2.8 or 2.9), the next VLC, V1.0.0 has a rather rude warning that it WILL CRASH (in capital letters). I had trouble compiling it, but then I just pinched the Slackware version and it seems to work

#455 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 22 Jun 2009, 08:29

clarf wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:But a few years back Simple Mail came out as a FF extension, it was ok but it was lacking in some features, I just tried the latest version, which is really nice and small and its had a lot of improvements, I was wondering if there were any regular Seamonkey mail users out there who might want to compare it?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... rsion-2.74
I wasn't going to add a email client but being so small and if its any good, I'll add it
ttuuxxx
Hi ttuuxxx, I tried Simple Mail and it seems good enough to be included in Puppy.

It lacks some features already included in Thunderbird or Seamonkey like: folder compression, complete Adress book (with search) or manage fisical folder for easy system backup. But I´m sure none casual user will miss them.

It has all basic mail features in a very small package. And a small mail client with a FireFox look it´s much better than none.

When I tested it, i didn´t notice any significant increase in memory use or bug with FireFox.

excellent it will be in the next release

Thanks for testing it

ttuuxxx

#456 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 22 Jun 2009, 08:30

OlddogNewtricks wrote:
davesurrey wrote:
7. MUT still doesn't show any partitions over hda9 (as previously reported)

8. Same for pmount.

9. Gparted shows problems with partitions over hda9 as reported before.

I created 5 temporary ext2 partitions with gparted & as you can see they are all seen. although pmount hasn't put them in order. No problems with gparted either.

Wow excellent Job, I wonder why other users have issues, how strange. Thanks for doing that also

ttuuxxx

#457 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 22 Jun 2009, 08:39

sikpuppy wrote: You might want to look at updating Glibc (to 2.8 or 2.9), the next VLC, V1.0.0 has a rather rude warning that it WILL CRASH (in capital letters). I had trouble compiling it, but then I just pinched the Slackware version and it seems to work

Ummm we were lucky to get 2.5 running smooth, Its running like a well oiled machine, I might experiment later, but we're too deep in 2.5 now

But as I was looking at puppy's numbers on distrowatch today I came across a couple distros I haven't read up on, So this one in general, I looked at the website and they had a small repo, So I downloaded a few of the programs to see if they would run, well XMMS did and it was real small, so I added a couple of plugins and here it is guys, give her a good format test, compare it against bmp and the winner can be in the final release, or maybe sooner

ttuuxxx

OlddogNewtricks · #458 Post by **OlddogNewtricks** » Mon 22 Jun 2009, 08:51

OlddogNewtricks wrote: I created 5 temporary ext2 partitions with gparted & as you can see they are all seen. although pmount hasn't put them in order.

Just noticed desktop drive icons not in order either.

davesurrey · #459 Post by **davesurrey** » Mon 22 Jun 2009, 09:27

Hi ttuuxxx,
Thanks for the new MUT. I just tried it (been away this weekend) and it's an improvement but as I hope you will see from my screenshots I think there will always likely be a clash if the volume label is on the same line as the GB.

Also the info for each of the partitions of the other disk has now disappeared. Perhaps that's only because this is a test MUT?

Anyway much better. If the name and amount (GB) can be on separate lines that may well fix it.

Cheers
Dave

davesurrey · #460 Post by **davesurrey** » Mon 22 Jun 2009, 09:41

Just downloaded and installed xmms pet.
The installer said it was missing a load of dependencies.
(libs)
libmac.so.2
libfaad.so.0
libmp4ff.so.0
libmikmod.so.2
libFLAC.so.7
libsd.so.0

An entry was made in the Multimedia menu but didn't work.
Doing "xmms" in a terminal gives

xmms: symbol lookup error: xmms: undefined symbol: playlistwin_popup_menu_entries

Am I doing something wrong?

Dave

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