(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

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mavrothal wrote:This is all very interesting, but you may want to revisit the 1st post.
This is about a Puppy Linux entry point web site for the new-comer.
Like BK's original only a bit more 21st century. 8)

It is not for a forum consolidation page or a puppy wiki.

Oh I see. I re-read your first post, mavrothal, but erroneously thought from that and some of the posts that followed it that some alternative to puppylinux.com and puppylinux.org was being proposed. Personally, I think puppylinux.org at least is one of the better looking and easy to use Puppy sites, though I imagine it needs a bit updating to continually reflect Puppy developments, including the alternatives and so-called "lookalikes" and woof/woof-CE and so on. From your later posts, I note that you are talking from your own perspective of being part of woof-CE development team. That's not something I've been involved in, and with other projects occupying me at the moment I'll bow out of any current direct involvement in that :-) I'm interested to see how your webpage development goes though. woof-CE seems like an interesting area, and good luck with the progress of that.

William

Barry K started puppy linux and owns the name.
He has not designated a successor.
If members of the puppy linux community
wish to present a particular project
to show what is being developed
that seems reasonable
but only Barry K can designate an "official" puppy
(and it seems edit his home page to display it).
Since Barry's retirement puppy linux
has become a diverse group of puppy inspired projects
created by the puppy linux community
as can been seen on the forum.
Any puppy linux homepage
must include all of the puppy projects
not just puppy woof-CE.
If an alternate home page is needed
the first page that comes up in a google search is
puppylinux.org.
That is the page that should be used.

wanderer

I repeat -
If this needs Barry to OK it then so be it and I'm sure he will not disagree as long as the page is not abused.

The big problem about the Puppy Linux home page is that if it is done multi-user (using scripts), its CPU usage jumps given the high number of hits and the site is soon suspended by the host. This explains the static nature of the home page.

If you have specific items to add or a specific design to suggest, then please post it and I will see how to use it at puppylinux.org. Or add to github as suggested by mavrothal in the original post.

raffy wrote:The big problem about the Puppy Linux home page is that if it is done multi-user (using scripts), its CPU usage jumps given the high number of hits and the site is soon suspended by the host. This explains the static nature of the home page.

I'm sure there are others who are willing to donate cpu/server space to make a dynamic home page. I know I would.

But the github idea has its appeal too.

jamesbond wrote:I'm sure there are others who are willing to donate cpu/server space to make a dynamic home page. I know I would.

We can use puppylinux.info anytime for this - I mean, have the server ready, give me the DNS info and I will direct the domain to that server. (For puppylinux.com or puppylinux.org, you will have to request Barry to do this.)

I have taken the liberty to send this message to Barry K. I know he has said he does not want to be contacted but I don't know any other way to address this issue. If he does not read it on his blog maybe he will read it here. If anyone knows any way to contact Barry K please post it here.

Dear Barry K, I am sorry to bother you because I know you are retired however I have noticed that the Puppy Linux home page has not been updated in a while and this is also true of the Distrowatch page. Would it be acceptable for you to assign a few Puppy Linux members to maintain both pages ? I am afraid if this is not done many people will think that development of Puppy Linux has stopped. My personal suggestion is the Woof-CE team since they are actively developing your system, others could join them as appropriate. Once again I apologize for bothering you. Thank you for your consideration of this request.

A Puppy fan
Wanderer

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Fork & rename ?

Puppy has been a community project for quite some time now, but if trademark/access to site is still Barry's and he doesn't take any action on the issue I guess the real solution is to choose another name and logo for puppylinux / woof and continue development with new site / domain too which will be official. Then it could be listed as new project on Distrowatch too, same way as Simplicity linux was.
It might seem drastic but I see it as only real solution for future too.
Development would go on through woof-CE (renamed) releases would still have the same unique puppy enviroment with the change of name and logo.

[removed, my idea was stupid]

dejan555 wrote:Fork & rename ?

I guess the real solution is to choose another name and logo for puppylinux / woof and continue development with new site / domain too which will be official. Then it could be listed as new project on Distrowatch too, same way as Simplicity linux was.

It might seem drastic but I see it as only real solution for future too.

Sounds like a plan....but, if the community doesn't go with it...stagnation rules.

Someone needs to paint a bulls eye on their back and jut start the ball rolling. I can set up a site/domain, but we need a name.

Thom

woof4linux sounds good and is available.

woof is the building block, so it should be able to cover all its kid puppies.

non-woof but cousin puppies can still be featured there.

I believe that the content rather than the name is the real issue.
For example http://www.puppy-linux.org redirects to the forum but could be used without affecting the existing sites. http://www.puppy-linux.com links to nowhere but if is also registered with a "friendly" person, it could be used.

Building a new puppy home page could be done right now in the woof-CE git page that currently looks like this . There is a simple mechanism that you can have this page shown on the address that you have secured.

You do not like woof-CE just build a site on another repo or place and then link it. There is also a Pupppy PR group that is looking for members!

mavrothal wrote:I believe that the content rather than the name is the real issue.
For example http://www.puppy-linux.org redirects to the forum but could be used without affecting the existing sites. http://www.puppy-linux.com links to nowhere but if is also registered with a "friendly" person, it could be used.

Building a new puppy home page could be done right now in the woof-CE git page that currently looks like this . There is a simple mechanism that you can have this page shown on the address that you have secured.

You do not like woof-CE just build a site on another repo or place and then link it. There is also a Pupppy PR group that is looking for members!

Hi Mavrothal,

Looks clean crisp and modern. Looks like a good start I liked the old one but hey this ones even better.

A fresh install of Wordpress is at puppylinuxnews.org. [EDIT - It did not work, so back to the wiki for contributors.]

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The origin of this development is in this thread.

Barry K is aware......


http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00092

Raffy is the main guy to make a decision, a very long-established Puppy fan and supporter, who has established his credentials over many years.

Raffy already has control over the content of puppylinux.org (as well as others, as it is a wiki).

If Raffy suggests where puppylinux.com should be redirected to, I will seriously look at that.

I can help if need be. I also have puppylinux.net and a server, plus I have dealt with Hostgater before when I released .org and BK and I co habitated All three at Hostgater for the transfer. Its a Texas based company. Moving DNS records are easy, And Hostgater seemed fine with the smooth and seemless transfers.

Ted Dog wrote:I can help if need be. I also have puppylinux.net and a server, plus I have dealt with Hostgater before when I released .org and BK and I co habitated All three at Hostgater for the transfer. Its a Texas based company. Moving DNS records are easy, And Hostgater seemed fine with the smooth and seemless transfers.

Good to know. Thanks.
However, as stated many times, the content is the major obstacle

mavrothal wrote:as stated many times, the content is the major obstacle

I think lack of time to write content is a bigger obstacle. Texts don't really have to be long, as long as readers can get the information they need. I guess I could set some time to write on a regular basis, at least to get it started. Also, others could proofread to make sure the information is accurate and up-to-date.