erm ff 3.6 perhaps....Now if we just had a drop in replacement for FireFox that wasn't so bloated.
mike
I tried a few of the "retro" (FF) packages, and a large number of sites informed me that they would soon disallow connections with those "vulnerable" browsers...mikeb wrote:erm ff 3.6 perhaps....Now if we just had a drop in replacement for FireFox that wasn't so bloated.
mike
well that very unsporting of them...I get the odd whine but no threats of that order...any site in particular?I tried a few of the "retro" (FF) packages, and a large number of sites informed me that they would soon disallow connections with those "vulnerable" browsers... Evil or Very Mad
None of my computers have more than 1 GB RAM. I never create or use a swap file or partition and I generally run Firefox. I've used various version up to and including the latest and don't experience any crashes - despite FF being bloated and watching Youtube fullscreen and also having many tabs open at the same time often.RetroTechGuy wrote: My old desktop "only" has 1 GB RAM -- FF will crash it, if I turn off the 1 GB Swap.
I was going to mention essentially the same thing. On both a weak single-cored Atom netbook and a circa 2005 HP lappy - both with 1Gb RAM and no swap - various Puppies (currently Precise Retro 5.7.1) and other Linux distros run newer Firefoxes without complaint. Firefox typically uses an additional 150-200 Mb RAM when open, and additional CPU use is only a few percent unless scrolling (during which it spikes 40-100%).mcewanw wrote: None of my computers have more than 1 GB RAM. I never create or use a swap file or partition and I generally run Firefox. I've used various version up to and including the latest and don't experience any crashes - despite FF being bloated and watching Youtube fullscreen and also having many tabs open at the same time often.
I'm very skeptical about the stability - from what I can tell it is the least stable of the major linux browsers.Moat wrote:Firefox's stability, extensibility and tweakability (especially via about:config) are second to none IMHO
I guess I should do a hardware scan. Though it doesn't seem like anything run into problem any other time (although, no other package exhibits a RAM load of a 8-900 MB -- I watch the RAM as I'm running it, and it bloats up until all RAM is loaded, and then sometimes rolls on into swap.)Moat wrote:I was going to mention essentially the same thing. On both a weak single-cored Atom netbook and a circa 2005 HP lappy - both with 1Gb RAM and no swap - various Puppies (currently Precise Retro 5.7.1) and other Linux distros run newer Firefoxes without complaint. Firefox typically uses an additional 150-200 Mb RAM when open, and additional CPU use is only a few percent unless scrolling (during which it spikes 40-100%).mcewanw wrote: None of my computers have more than 1 GB RAM. I never create or use a swap file or partition and I generally run Firefox. I've used various version up to and including the latest and don't experience any crashes - despite FF being bloated and watching Youtube fullscreen and also having many tabs open at the same time often.
Firefox IS relatively bloated compared to many other browsers, but it's a matter of "you get what you pay for". Firefox's stability, extensibility and tweakability (especially via about:config) are second to none IMHO - and these mediocre machines run it without hiccup. You just have to get used to waiting a few more seconds for it to load on opening, compared to other lighter alternatives.
Not sure why you're having such problems, RetroTechGuy.
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total used free shared buffers
Mem: 3014600 1113960 1900640 0 31932
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 3014600 1113960 1900640
This is FF 26.0. It looks like a memory leak of some sort... I think that this behavior started in the last few versions...mikeb wrote:Hmm expected usage for me below...add say 150MB for heavy use and newer version.
Sounds more like a memory leak since usage is normally proportional to space available and should not hit max ...what addons do you have and does it happen with other firefox versions...? Any other pattern..particular sites?
mike
I was running NyetScrape on Debian 1.3 at that time. That was the only program that I ever ran, which crashed the machine (it caused a reset/reboot). (I had a whopping 64MB RAM on that beast...)mikeb wrote:yeah was going to suggest trying 'safemode'...ie all addons disabled...
Yes I remember netscape crashing on 98.... some said it was a MS trick but who knows... but someone on a forum suggested firefox which was at 0.6 then and it worked like a charm... so a long association has ensued..
mike