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Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 07:07
by aarf
Unless you are going to sit ontop of your tv the HDMI cables arent cheap either. Suppose you could have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard to compensate. Once again extra cost.
Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 07:35
by JohnMurga
aarf wrote:Unless you are going to sit ontop of your tv the HDMI cables arent cheap either. Suppose you could have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard to compensate. Once again extra cost.
Never had a problem with my $5 HDMI cables from ebay/amazon ...
The new TV came with a $60 cable ("free"), and it doesn't make any difference.
It does look cooler, so I use the expensive cable
Cheers
JohnM
Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 08:08
by Sage
Last time I checked HDMI to VGA adapters cost more than a PI
Not all of them - there's a bog std. one for a couple of quid in the CPC catalogue if you've got time to search it out. If you're desperate, I can look up the code from past orders and PM it.
Later: sorry, can't find it - must've been a telephone order.
Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 08:33
by Lobster
I'm desperate (in more ways than 7) Please post details Sage.
Did you order one (or try to get a slice?)
Twitter from rpi team - gone silent. They are up to something . . .
. . . I am still excited . . .
I am hoping their site will go up soon and then we will have more info
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/a ... ution.html
http://gizmodo.com/5889245/five-things- ... spberry-pi
Puppy r squared
We iz raspberried . . .
Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 10:16
by Lobster
Just got a message from Liz Upton from Rpi headquarters
Mad doesn't even *start* to address what it's like here at the moment. Absolutely can't believe the interest. We've got the Chinese State Broadcasting "news" people visiting this morning. Mental.
Thank you for Spike. I hadn't seen that before, and was reduced to making snorting noises. Lovely stuff.
Up crustacea!
some of you have probably seen the snort inducing video for doubters and detractors . . .
http://youtu.be/wEZ-NvSKJLI
They are clearly swamped.
Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 10:48
by JohnMurga
Sage wrote:Last time I checked HDMI to VGA adapters cost more than a PI
Not all of them - there's a bog std. one for a couple of quid in the CPC catalogue if you've got time to search it out. If you're desperate, I can look up the code from past orders and PM it.
Later: sorry, can't find it - must've been a telephone order.
Cable adapters won't work because of the analogue/digital mismatch.
I assume that whatever you bought worked for you ... But for a couple of quid ?
If you found a full on converter that works at that price, I am sure people here would be interested in you digging it out
This is the cheapest I could find, but it is still more than thirty quid :
http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/psg03 ... dp/AV19973
No one is going to be desperate, as I suspect no-one will have their PI in their hands for a while
Cheers
JohnM
Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 10:58
by antiloquax
Lobster wrote:Just got a message from Liz Upton from Rpi headquarters
Thank you for Spike. I hadn't seen that before, and was reduced to making snorting noises. Lovely stuff.
Up crustacea!
Cool! I had an email from Liz a while back too! Glad you are keeping Puppy on their mind!
Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 16:54
by Aitch
I don't know if a simple HDMI to VGA+Audio cable will work as advertised on ebay?
http://tinyurl.com/6ratttx
John M wrote:Cable adapters won't work because of the analogue/digital mismatch.
Any care to gamble a few quid to test one of these with an XBox or DVD player with HDMI out, and report back?
I'm sure potential Pi owners would be interested
Aitch
Posted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 00:58
by prehistoric
There's more than analog/digital behind the problem of converting HDMI to VGA. HDMI is set up to be paranoid about someone converting protected content to unprotected, like VGA. Whenever it sees an unprotected output, a message goes back up the chain to convert to standard definition (SD).
I set up a TV (for someone else who watches the idiot box) using a 31" CRT monitor with a VGA input. It will show 1080i, which looks quite nice on a CRT. (The interlaced lines actually fit between those of the alternate field.)
The problem, even when showing off-the-air TV, is that you may have to buy old equipment to display HD via VGA. I got a Sony SAT HD-200 off eBay. This is a very nice box which originally cost around $800. The satellite input is obsolete, but for people like my friend who are upset about paying cable rates the off-the-air tuner is very good.
A side benefit of using an old 31" CRT monitor is that you don't have to worry about thieves doing a smash-and-grab if they see it through the glass door to the patio.
Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 01:30
by Lobster
Guys beyond hyperspice and other spaces
in a future raspberry dimension populated by Puppys
we are already running . . .
Wheras other distros such as Raspberry Hat and Pi Ian
are already able to test and devevop on actual hardware
we have to develop on hardware we don't have.
It may be impossible but I would remind you that
Barry once created a release version of Puppy which included
OpenOffice in under 100MB when OpenOffice (now LibreOffice)
on its own was 120MB
It may be impossble but let's do it anyway.
I am starting to remind myself of any latent
Python skills I may have
(the language of the RPi Foundation for its educational
prime directive)
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppySchoolProgramming
As soon as a PARM devx exists
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PARM
in this time line, I will be testing my
Fruit machine
Code: Select all
## Random fruit response
# Python Code
# Lobster March 3 2012
import random
verb = ['erratic', 'unbelievable', 'unfortunate', 'inconsequential']
fruit = ['raspberry', 'pomegranite', 'banana', 'grape', 'loganberry']
print "You are an" , random.choice (verb) , random.choice (fruit)
Don't leave it for the appalling apple
to shutdown all ARM tablets to Ipaid only . . .
Get your Puppy ARM ISO ready.
Tens of thousands of users worlwide will have
boards and be bored with the bug dogs in no time
Puppy Linux
Small Dog. Big Bones.
Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 06:24
by Aitch
Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 08:40
by antiloquax
Finally got an email from RS!
we will send you further information on your request in the next seven days. Once we receive the boards into stock, they will be allocated on a first-come first-serve basis, in order of when requests were received.
Posted: Mon 05 Mar 2012, 22:14
by scsijon
Lobster wrote:
Aw Lobster, and I thought you'd pick to do it the other-way around, with red puppy's curled around each other instead of individual seeds.
Posted: Mon 05 Mar 2012, 22:27
by Lobster
antiloquax, Fellow Puppys, Barryk, Raspberrians of all flavours,
Finally!
Managed to place an order.
Never been so happy to send money
I will be reciving a Rpi B board in 2058
. . . well OK 58 days - 58 days? They go to the moon and back in less time.
Meanwhile Liz Upton has promised to send me a model A board
thanks to the kind prompts of a US Puppy (also called Ed)
. . . who also offered to send me his B board, if I can not get one
[too kind guys, too kind]
So I am frutified and raspberrian.
So much so I started a blog of my adventures
starting with purchasing fruit coloured accessories
http://raspberrian.tumblr.com/
Fruit is good for you
Raspberry Pi - all of your 5 a day
Posted: Tue 06 Mar 2012, 04:59
by antiloquax
Lobster wrote:
Finally!
Managed to place an order.
Never been so happy to send money
Great news. I've also managed to order one. I should get it mid-May.
Posted: Tue 06 Mar 2012, 10:45
by Sylvander
Hello Lobster...
I'll be watching your "Raspberry Pi" adventures with interest.
By-the-way...
Who is the handsome chap in the suit and tie holding the Puppy mug?
With eyes that display the classic indication [upper whites showing] of "Charisma" [excitement, interest in others, etc].
There IS "an art to show the minds' construction in the face".
Face reading.
Posted: Tue 06 Mar 2012, 12:14
by Lobster
Who is the handsome chap in the suit and tie holding the Puppy mug?
Barry Kauler is the guy in the mug shot
http://bkhome.org/bkauler/melbourne-dec-2010.htm
Just done a post on using dd (isn't that a bra size?)
ahem . . . just done a post on using dd to put Debian on an SD card (to brastrap from - eh bootstrap from) . . .
http://raspberrian.tumblr.com/post/1884 ... -to-debian
No hardware and no HDMI cable but software is ready
and wallpaper is ready
Linux Tmxxine is my brand of Puppy
Next step I think is what to strip and add from Debian and how to turn an image on an SD card into an ISO or image file
- so a pseudo Puppy experience will be ready for our Puppy Pi-oneers
The raspberrian website (which I only started yesterday) will be merging with the team python blog
http://teampython.wordpress.com/
Any ideas for a name?
Posted: Tue 06 Mar 2012, 17:22
by antiloquax
We are going with
RaspberryPy.
Posted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 02:02
by Lobster
We are going with RaspberryPy
Great.
Added my first post (OK it it is a rehash)
to the combined blog
http://raspberrypy.tumblr.com/
Will take us a while to establish a style . . .
I have only done one combined blog before
antiloquax owns the site and I am a guest blogger.
We will see how it works out and I hope we will gladly consider other guest bloggers.
Posted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 03:31
by Pence
Still waiting for my chance to order one, but I did find a usb to micro usb cable, micro usb phone charger and a usb keyboard with trackball. Very cheap at our town's SPCA thrift store.