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Iguleder wrote:Oh, forgot to upload the traditional screeny, so here it is

Puppy and Window Maker are indeed an awesome combination.

So if I get it which I doubt I do???

What you show there is only available if one know how to get it going.

But in next version it will be there from scratch without us needing to install it? I don't remember that my "Next" had that feature?

I try to give exact name and date of my Next.

next-5.0.0.iso 14 Aug 2011 21 PM my local time I guess.
is that one too old then or should I have installed something failed to find that text or instruction?

Edit after reading this explanation.

I explained exactly how to get menus working in alpha 1. Just install that PET and run wm-xdgmenu.

Yes it is my bad you did the right thing. I have to read in the structured way you wrote it and sooner or later I get how one does it.

thanks for your patience.

Alpha 1 has pretty much nothing and it feels very incomplete. The next version has menus working.

And no, I explained exactly how to get menus working in alpha 1. Just install that PET and run wm-xdgmenu.

Hi iguleder,

I've checked your menu-script. It's very fast but has some problems. You're parsing the files for main-categories, but these aren't the real names. Please check /etc/xdg/menus/hierarchy, for the correct grouped cats.

Aragon

Yep, I know. I did this for two reasons:
1) Makes the script way faster; it consumes less memory, there's no need for two-dimensional arrays or lots of dynamic memory allocation.
2) It's accurate enough, since Puppy's menu entries already match Puppy's menu structure.

I can improve the script, but I see no reason. It's good enough and very fast this way.

I installed next 5 to my compaq desktop which has intel graphics.

Fri 19 Aug 2011 Operating System: Next Puppy-5.0.0 Linux 2.6.39
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
oem: Intel(r)Q33/Q35/G33 Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS product: Intel(r)Q33/Q35/G33 Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes


Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200
Core 0: 1200 1: 2500 MHz

It's working well on this pc.

The screenshot is an hd video playing full screen

I have been tryin out next & really really like it a lot

Great Job Iguleder!!!

I went lookin for themes & found a site with many here is a link.

http://www.jessanderson.org/wmthemes/

I installed it simply by unpacking the tar.gz through xterm then moved the created folder to ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Themes & it showed up in the appearance menu. I switched to it & it loaded up fonts need adjusting through editing the style shellscript located in the themes folder.

again thanks Iguleder if you had not made this next pup version i would not have learned many things over the last few days

I would post a screenshot of the theme i installed but not sure how to take one just yet as soon as i do ill post it

I'll make a big bunch of font packages, don't worry. I just want to get alpha 2 ready first.

It has many changes, and the biggest difference is the fact the packages are also packaged automatically now. Previously, they were built automatically but had to be packaged manually - now I can rebuild the whole repository in 15 minutes.

I'll automate font packages too and maybe even add some fonts to the ISO - its size should drop to somewhere in the 65 to 70 MB range, so spending 1-3 MB on fonts is justified,

Moin
Iguleder

Thanks for your great job
I playing a round a little bit with your puplett and at moment i am impressed .
The best debian near puppy I have ever tested. And I'm looking for a long time for a puppy near Debian.
Here a screen from my short test.
Xcfe4 plus Thunar costs aprox 20MB

I ran the Peacekeeper benchmark with Seamonkey 2.3 and Firefox 6.0,it's a tie.

You used Aurora to run Peacekeeper?

WDYT of Aurora?

I still long for a really small and quick browser.

Midori, reporting as Safari, has been an excellent performer in Fluppy.

Dillo seems to have been abandoned and forgotten.

edoc wrote:You used Aurora to run Peacekeeper?

WDYT of Aurora?

I still long for a really small and quick browser.

Midori, reporting as Safari, has been an excellent performer in Fluppy.

Dillo seems to have been abandoned and forgotten.

Yes, Aurora, I've only been using today but I like it.

Billtoo wrote:
Yes, Aurora, I've only been using today but I like it.

How does it look and perform compared to the others?

Did you create a PET or are you running it from a SFS?

edoc wrote: Dillo seems to have been abandoned and forgotten.

Dillo just released an update to 2.2.1 on July 26,2011 and Dillo 3 should be available soon.

http://www.dillo.org/

edoc wrote:

Billtoo wrote:
Yes, Aurora, I've only been using today but I like it.

How does it look and perform compared to the others?

Did you create a PET or are you running it from a SFS?

I compiled them both in Next 5, I tried to make a pet but the dir2pet script didn't work right.

They both work well.

Would the newest Dillo (3) be worth the wait?

Is making a SFS, that will work in Next 5, difficult for the detail-challenged?

I always seem to miss a step or stumble on a dependency or miss a symlink or something ... and I have years of experience in all of that!

So, rather than waste everyone's time trying to walk me through such things I just ask and wait for someone more competent to make them available!

edoc wrote:
I still long for a really small and quick browser.

Links2 in graphical mode is super quick and only a few meg is size.

pacer106: I made font packages for these:

dejavu-fonts-ttf
freefont-ttf
ubuntu-font-family
font-bh-ttf
liberation-fonts-ttf
LinLibertine

I think it's more than enough, it's pretty much all the widely used free fonts

The DejaVu fonts package is what you need to get smooth fonts when using themes, since many themes use other Vera variants that don't ship built-in.

EDIT: you can get them here ... as always.

EDIT: I wrote a better parser, which is more accurate but doesn't feel slower, it's here. This time it has a more sophisticated category guessing mechanism that solves a problem I had in a testing build of alpha 2 - Pburn was missing from the menu.

Just to highlight my way of operating.
I have gathered fonts in a fonts directory outside the save file and symlink it to /usr/share/fonts/default and these fonts are available for every puppy I use/test.

Building alpha 2, going to upload it once the ISO is ready.

The menu generator had one bug that prevented some menu entries from appearing in the menu, now it's fixed and everything works just fine.

I booted a testing build and installed Seamonkey - it's so goddamn fast! I like it a lot.

I'm sure alpha 2 will be more complete than alpha 1 ... by far.

Seeing signs of it (69MB) in the alpha2 directory